well, do u have access to vma weapons?

This is my PVP build.
I run Clever alchemist and Strenght of automation.. Kragh's shoulder. All Divines all Gold. Nirnhoned greatsword and Sharpened Bow. Shadow stone (Unfair Nerf RIP ) but onslaught still hits harder with shadow. edit: lvl 4 Vamp as well.

Wood elf and Tri stat food.

2h Bar.
Ambush, Flex (shuffle, hysteria, mists), Supprise attack, Executioner, Rally, Onslaught.

Bow bar
Relentless focus, Magelight, Crit Cloak, Focused Aim, Vigor, Flawless Dawnbreaker.

Note all physical damage skills.

For PVE I put in spriggans over clever alchemist. and I switch to PVE skills... like endless hail.

The build you already have isn't bad and can certainly work.

However, here are two builds I go back and forth between and they are awesome.

first is: 2 selenes, 5 bone pirate, 5 spriggans. 5 medium/1 heavy/1 light. All Impen. head, chest, legs have tri stat glyphs and the rest stamina. jewelry is all weapon damage. Using 2 swords, one infused with weapon damage enchant and one sharpened with disease enchant on main bar. Disease further helps reduce healing and the 452 weapon damage from the infused weapon has basically 100% up time. Back bar is a powered 2h sword (its bone pirate so i keep the 5 pc bonus on the back bar, as there is no point for spriggans to be on back bar since its a heal/buff bar and pen does nothing for heals) I am a bosmer and use warrior mundus, if you really want you can go serpant and if you plan on ganking go shadow. You can use either dubious throne if you want some extra damage and more HP, but personally I run magicka recovery and stamina recovery drink. The stamina recovery is great and having the extra magicka recovery is a god send. I am also a stage 4 vampire. 64 attribute points into stamina.

bar 1: rending slash- Good damage to add on top of LA/SA weaving and the snare helps the selenes proc hit, plus keeps you more mobile than the enemy. They either have to cast purge or shuffle to remove the snare and those skills cost a lot.

surprise attack- armor debuff, procs shadow barrier, stuns from stealth, and hits hard.

quick cloak- invaluable skill. In a land of AoE this reduces the damage by a MASSIVE 25%. The major expedition is great. Its not super expensive. The AoE DoT is meh, but it does proc selenes and has occasionally taken NB's out of cloak.

Ambush- Best offensive mobility skill in the game IMHO. Gives empower so good to combo with IC, just be aware people will roll dodge after you do it if they are smart. However, if you are smarter, you'll wait that extra second THEN use IC to ensure it lands and they dont block it. If they do block, fear then IC.

Mass hysteria- No its NOT OP like people say....but its amazing hahaha.

Incapacitating strike- Hits like a truck, albeit single target damage. Because of NB's ability to generate ultimate, it's usually up several times in a fight while other classes are still trying to get just one of their ults off. Extra damage for 6 seconds and with how my CP is setup it reduces enemy healing by about 40%. The build is a hard counter to the heavy armor meta with not only penetration but also healing debuffs.

back bar: Rally- Major brutality, HoT, burst heal. USE WHILE CLOAKED for a 100% crit chance on the burst heal.

Shuffle- NB is squishy in medium armor, so it helps. Plus it removes snares so I almost always use it after getting knocked down or stunned by skills that also snare. Using it after break free within 5 seconds (with unchained passive) ensures it costs next to nothing to cast, allowing you to dodge roll away, vigor, cloak (which also crit ALL vigor tics).

Shadowy disguise- I like the crit so I use it over the other morph. Use while hidden before a gank.

Relentless focus- As much as I would love to use the assassins scourge or whatever its called its not really feasible being on the back bar. I use it simply for the extra damage and recovery.

Vigor- another good heal that should be used before cloaking when possible. We need all the healing we can get as NB's. Be careful however as if it is laggy, you might have to switch it to front bar because bar swap may not work and you will not be able to heal in time.

Flawless dawnbreaker- I simply have it there for more weapon damage because it equals more heals on back bar.

CP: Change how you see fit, just remember everything rounds down. How I have it setup leaves no left over or wasted CP.
RED- 33 quick recovery, 75 hardy, 75 elemental defender, 10 iron clad, 27 resistant.
BLUE- 20 thaumaturge, 13 precise strikes, 60 piercing, 64 mighty, 44 master-at-arms, 19 blessed.
GREEN- 33 befoul, 51 tumbling, 75 mooncalf, 61 warlord.

The other build is a heavy build. There are some good ones out there, but this is the one I use from time to time, usually in group raids. Good in small group skirmishes as well but not as good at solo as the other build, but it does work. You just need to be aware you will be soaking up damage and using the extra healing via CP and armor passives as opposed to roll dodging.

2 selenes (which is switch out for pirate skeleton when in a raid), 5 hundings, 5 bone pirate. 5 heavy, 2 medium. 1 tri stat piece big armor piece, the rest stamina. weapon damage on all jewelry. I run dubious camoran throne for this one exclusively. Same weapon types and same traits, you can do one mace instead of sword, just know its not as good as it once was. still 64 attribute points into stamina, still stage 4 vamp, serpant mundus. Same skills as other build but you can change stuff around if you want. I usually put vigor on the front bar and put either shadow image or piercing mark on the back bar in its place. This means either sacrificing rending slashes or quick cloak. Totally up to you which one you get rid of.

CP:
RED- 50 quick recovery, 9 thick skinned, 60 hardy, 70 elemental defender, 11 iron clad, 20 resistant.
BLUE- 24 thaumaturge, 10 precise strikes, 20 piercing, 64 mighty, 8 shattering blows, 34 master-at-arms, 60 blessed.
GREEN- 44 tumbling, 75 mooncalf, 32 tenacity, 43 siphoner, 26 warlord.

Both this builds I have been extremely successful with, though I like the medium armor build because it fits my play style more. The point of the builds is to maximize our strengths while also taking our (NB) weaknesses and trying to mitigate their faults.

Both builds require farming for bone pirate but i cannot stress enough how amazing bone pirate is. hundings is obviouly easy to get as it is crafted. Spriggans is a pain, you can either grind the armor pieces (which isnt to bad) and the weapons (which is REALLY a pain) or you can buy the pieces. The weapons arent cheap though!

build 2 is good damage, good stamina recovery, higher crit than the other build, more protection, and better heals. However, the other build (build 1) still has higher damage, better resource managment, and better mobility with more roll dodging. Each has it's own strength and weaknesses that depend on your play style and what you are looking for.

Hope this helps.

Running 5 Spriggans , 5 none pirate, 2 selenes. Hits hard.

I'm using BakerofCakes' Venomblade build. Check out his youtube channel for the build vids. It uses 5 piece senche's bite, 5 piece sheer venom and 1 piece bloodspawn/swarm mother. With that is used the double dot poison on bow bar and stam+mag regen drinks. You can also use jewels of misrule for non cp for the extra health. Mundus is Serpent for the regen. 2H bar has the weapon/spell dmg enchant. The original build also uses vampire, although I currently play it naturally.

Optimal races would be wood elf and khajiit for the extra regen, but I'm running in with Orc. Works fine for me. The extra sprint speed, melee dmg and health is really nice in PvP.

The good thing about this build is that it gives you very nice stats. In CP (fully buffed) you can get near 3k stam regen and 1,4k mag regen, while having up to 4,1k weap dmg and about 18-22k health, depending on which food you use. Crit is also at a very decent level, at around 45-50% or so fully buffed on bow bar. Stam sits at around 29k. Non CP stam will be a bit low, around 24k, although the weap dmg and recovery makes up for that more than enough.

In terms of playstyle this is a very versatile build, although it takes a bit of practice. I use it for solo, small group play, BG's and even duels. You can get up to 4 dots on your target, 5 if you are using 2H axe (poison injection, sheer venom, double dot poison and axe bleed). And at the same time you have massive burst from your 4k weap dmg. You will spend a lot of time animation canceling your attacks with dodge rolling to keep up the senche buff and using heavy bow attacks from cloak. When all your dots are ticking, I jump in, fear, incap or light attack+surprise attack. Then you dodge roll and go out again. Its a fast paced, in and out kind of play style.

No matter what I play, I always come back to this build. It's so fun and rewarding.

EDIT: added a little more information.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

I'm using BakerofCakes' Venomblade build. Check out his youtube channel for the build vids. It uses 5 piece senche's bite, 5 piece sheer venom and 1 piece bloodspawn/swarm mother. With that is used the double dot poison on bow bar and stam+mag regen drinks. You can also use jewels of misrule for non cp for the extra health. Mundus is Serpent for the regen. 2H bar has the weapon/spell dmg enchant. The original build also uses vampire, although I currently play it naturally.

Optimal races would be wood elf and khajiit for the extra regen, but I'm running in with Orc. Works fine for me. The extra sprint speed, melee dmg and health is really nice in PvP.

The good thing about this build is that it gives you very nice stats. In CP (fully buffed) you can get near 3k stam regen and 1,4k mag regen, while having up to 4,1k weap dmg and about 18-22k health, depending on which food you use. Crit is also at a very decent level, at around 45-50% or so fully buffed on bow bar. Stam sits at around 29k. Non CP stam will be a bit low, around 24k, although the weap dmg and recovery makes up for that more than enough.

In terms of playstyle this is a very versatile build, although it takes a bit of practice. I use it for solo, small group play, BG's and even duels. You can get up to 4 dots on your target, 5 if you are using 2H axe (poison injection, sheer venom, double dot poison and axe bleed). And at the same time you have massive burst from your 4k weap dmg. You will spend a lot of time animation canceling your attacks with dodge rolling to keep up the senche buff and using heavy bow attacks from cloak. When all your dots are ticking, I jump in, fear, incap or light attack+surprise attack. Then you dodge roll and go out again. Its a fast paced, in and out kind of play style.

No matter what I play, I always come back to this build. It's so fun and rewarding.

EDIT: added a little more information.

Be much better off with a WPN/Spell on bow bar, with a disease enchant on infused 2H

Edit: if running double dot poisons, use on bow bar and use VMA bow for the WD.

The vma bow would be nice, just like the master's bow. But being an Orc, I don't get additional regen from racials so I don't want to give up on the 1 piece swarm mother. If I was a wood elf/khajiit, I might have gone that route.

Also I'm personally not a fan of using direct dmg enchants. Just not my thing. Even though this might give me more short term burst, this build is about being able to apply constant sustained pressure with senche's bite and high weapon dmg + dots. The additional wep dmg also increases the value of my heals even more. So yea, your approach would be good, but for this build a wep/spell dmg enchant fits the style more. Especially since the more you stack it, the more it benefits from major brutality.

I modified my old ganking build and came up with this. Can still gank with it, though with other changes you won't be chain-ganking I guess. This is for no cp.

5 hundings (heavy chest, legs, feet, plus dw swords and 2h weapon), 5 spriggan (jewelry, hands, and waist), 1 kena(heavy) and 1 velidreth (heavy).

So 5 heavy, 2 medium, all impen (can use a couple divines or well fitted if you prefer), serpent mundus, dubious camoran throne drink, 64 points into stamina and bosmer race. In no cp this will give you ~21k health, 30k stamina, 1800 stamina regen, and around 3500 weapon damage with major brutality and minor berserk.

Dw: Surprise Attack, Ambush, Killers Blade, Mass Hysteria, Flying Blade, and Incapacitating Strike.
2h: Shuffle, Shadowy Disguise, Relentless Focus, Resolving Vigor, Rally, and Dawnbreaker of Smiting.

Overall it gives you pretty good survivability and sustain while also allowing good burst from stealth. My standard approach is heavy attack, incap, surprise attack, killers blade. Outside of stealth, ambush, fear, incap, etc is also good. Mainly this is for fighting one target as a time.

Trashs1 wrote: »

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

Running 5 Spriggans , 5 none pirate, 2 selenes. Hits hard.

and dies fast...


i dumped now about 100k gold to test all possible combinations and came to the conclution the build of jules is simpley the best.

use agility+vma 2h+ willows path medium+ blood spawn or willows path heavy + dmg monster (2 selene/vele or mix matched weap dmg)

what i dont like is the low stam...

I understand using blood spawn as I switch out Selenes from time to time. However, how is this build not just as squishy as 5 spriggans 5 bone pirate? Your set choices do nothing to increase healing, resistance (exception if you're using blood spawn which is a good set), while taking a large hit to damage with lower stamina, less weapon damage, and less penetration? How I have the spriggans/bone pirate setup it has just as much Resource recovery.

Just wondering about the logic behind this. Real question, not being a ***.

I currently run in cp/no cp/bg a pretty fun setup.

5xImpregnable
5x Eternal Hunt
1x Domihouse

All well fitted 7Medium

Just use Eternal Hunt in a offensive way.
With this setup dodge costs me around 1850stam.

Not the best build but it works for me.

Still testing other setups.