New motifs pickpocketing or kill
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Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't know the % chance, but the 3rd attempt has a better chance to get a motif then the 1st 2nd or kill does.1 -
PlagueSD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yep, Pickpocket 2 time, then blade of woe. Although I think blade of woe has a bigger detection range. I seem to get caught more times assassinating than I do pick pocketing.3 -
saxgooner✭✭✭I'll try it out, this is going to take longer to get 3 new styles than BA, I only got 1 belt in 5 hours0
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Always pickpocket twice, then kill.There are better chances on 2nd and 3rd try, and killing them makes them respawn with 3 new items (which is faster than waiting for their pockets to respawn).Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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thawks✭✭✭Yep, Pickpocket 2 time, then blade of woe. Although I think blade of woe has a bigger detection range. I seem to get caught more times assassinating than I do pick pocketing.
When you use the Blade of Woe you lose stealth just before killing your target, so other NPCs will spot you from further away.2 -
PlagueSD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Too bad we can't do that with guards. We have to get 3 successful pick pockets on them to have a chance of getting a wanted poster housing item.0 -
ValkyriesWolf✭✭✭Too bad we can't do that with guards. We have to get 3 successful pick pockets on them to have a chance of getting a wanted poster housing item.
Actually, no. I pick guards left and right whenever I am in the right mood. Picked lots of them. I have about ten to fifteen wanted posters, different ones mind you, and not all of them were stolen on the third try. I got some on the first and some on the second try as well.
This myth about only getting the good stuff on the third pull or kill is just this, a myth. And there is also a chance to pull one on first or second and another one after that. I honestly never got that with a guard, but I had it with the wood elf throne plan. Got one via pick on the second try and then right after that one with the kill via blade of woe. Same with the vampire npc for the coffin and lid plans. Got the coffin plan on second pick and the lid plan on the kill. So don't let others tell you bs!
Well, @PlagueSD , if that was what you meant. If you only meant you can't kill guards to respawn them and thus HAVE to try your hand at picking them successfully, then just ignore my rant above.Edited by ValkyriesWolf on August 30, 2017 6:12AMMetal forever \m/0 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ValkyriesWolf wrote: »Too bad we can't do that with guards. We have to get 3 successful pick pockets on them to have a chance of getting a wanted poster housing item.
Actually, no. I pick guards left and right whenever I am in the right mood. Picked lots of them. I have about ten to fifteen wanted posters, different ones mind you, and not all of them were stolen on the third try. I got some on the first and some on the second try as well.
This myth about only getting the good stuff on the third pull or kill is just this, a myth. And there is also a chance to pull one on first or second and another one after that. I honestly never got that with a guard, but I had it with the wood elf throne plan. Got one via pick on the second try and then right after that one with the kill via blade of woe. Same with the vampire npc for the coffin and lid plans. Got the coffin plan on second pick and the lid plan on the kill. So don't let others tell you bs!
Well, @PlagueSD , if that was what you meant. If you only meant you can't kill guards to respawn them and thus HAVE to try your hand at picking them successfully, then just ignore my rant above.
That myth is based on the fact that you usually get special drops on 3rd try. And if you kill an npc after 2 pickpockets, you get the 3rd drop. Pickpocketing 3 times also works, but npcs inventory respawns slower than npcs themselves so its better to make them respawn.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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PlagueSD✭✭✭✭✭
✭ValkyriesWolf wrote: »Too bad we can't do that with guards. We have to get 3 successful pick pockets on them to have a chance of getting a wanted poster housing item.
Actually, no. I pick guards left and right whenever I am in the right mood. Picked lots of them. I have about ten to fifteen wanted posters, different ones mind you, and not all of them were stolen on the third try. I got some on the first and some on the second try as well.
This myth about only getting the good stuff on the third pull or kill is just this, a myth. And there is also a chance to pull one on first or second and another one after that. I honestly never got that with a guard, but I had it with the wood elf throne plan. Got one via pick on the second try and then right after that one with the kill via blade of woe. Same with the vampire npc for the coffin and lid plans. Got the coffin plan on second pick and the lid plan on the kill. So don't let others tell you bs!
Well, @PlagueSD , if that was what you meant. If you only meant you can't kill guards to respawn them and thus HAVE to try your hand at picking them successfully, then just ignore my rant above.
Yeah, that's what I was inferring. Killing for the 3rd drop instead of dealing with the additional pickpocket penalty is my preferred way of looting NPCs. Respawn is faster when killed.0 -
ValkyriesWolf✭✭✭Ah ok. Because, as I said, I also heard this myth about only getting good loot on the third try. Or getting good loot only once per circle.... and those myths kinda enrage me because they are just myths and player, mostly new or inexperienced (with pickpocketing etc,.) really believe that. I mean, I came upon a player who told me to the face that if more than one person picks the npc only one person will get the good loot because they only carry one (they don't necessarily, like I wrote in my above post) and after one gets it, the npc is empty for everyone. Well, that's just not true and total bs. That's why I write about my experiences here. To help kill those ridiculous myths.Metal forever \m/1
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Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Pick, pick, stab. More chances to loot and faster respawn than full pocket respawn.
If you only stab you lose out and other players picking same pocket do too.Edited by Mureel on August 30, 2017 9:49PM1 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
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Which is why, pick, pick, stab is the best choice big picture.LadyNalcarya wrote: »ValkyriesWolf wrote: »Too bad we can't do that with guards. We have to get 3 successful pick pockets on them to have a chance of getting a wanted poster housing item.
Actually, no. I pick guards left and right whenever I am in the right mood. Picked lots of them. I have about ten to fifteen wanted posters, different ones mind you, and not all of them were stolen on the third try. I got some on the first and some on the second try as well.
This myth about only getting the good stuff on the third pull or kill is just this, a myth. And there is also a chance to pull one on first or second and another one after that. I honestly never got that with a guard, but I had it with the wood elf throne plan. Got one via pick on the second try and then right after that one with the kill via blade of woe. Same with the vampire npc for the coffin and lid plans. Got the coffin plan on second pick and the lid plan on the kill. So don't let others tell you bs!
Well, @PlagueSD , if that was what you meant. If you only meant you can't kill guards to respawn them and thus HAVE to try your hand at picking them successfully, then just ignore my rant above.
That myth is based on the fact that you usually get special drops on 3rd try. And if you kill an npc after 2 pickpockets, you get the 3rd drop. Pickpocketing 3 times also works, but npcs inventory respawns slower than npcs themselves so its better to make them respawn.
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Hippie4927✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I mostly agree with the 'pick, pick, stab' but there are some NPCs (not all) who have a fourth item if you pick, pick, pick and then stab.PC/NA/EP ✌️2 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »I mostly agree with the 'pick, pick, stab' but there are some NPCs (not all) who have a fourth item if you pick, pick, pick and then stab.
O rly? Because most npcs I've looted to empty before I started pick pick stab, were empty after stab after 3rd pick. Like it says empty after 3rd pick...yes? Then stab...still empty.
Are you saying that you pick to empty then stab then the corpse is again lootable?
If so, *flips the table*Edited by Mureel on August 30, 2017 10:03PM0 -
Hippie4927✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »I mostly agree with the 'pick, pick, stab' but there are some NPCs (not all) who have a fourth item if you pick, pick, pick and then stab.
O rly? Because most npcs I've looted to empty before I started pick pick stab, were empty after stab after 3rd pick. Like it says empty after 3rd pick...yes? Then stab...still empty.
Are you saying that you pick to empty then stab then the corpse is again lootable?
If so, *flips the table*
No, if they are 'empty' then they are empty. But, for example, the vampire Derano most times will be empty after 3 picks but, sometimes, she is not empty. Sometimes you can pick her 3 times and then kill her and get a fourth item. This is how I got the coffin box.PC/NA/EP ✌️0 -
ValkyriesWolf✭✭✭Well, I actually had it a few times that after I killed after the second pick, and yes I'm 100% sure I picked two times before the stab, I didn't get a third item at all from them. The same has happend in the opposite way. I picked twice and stabbed, recovered two items from the corpse. It can happen sometimes. And the thing when there is more than one person farming I hold it for a good etiquette to let them pick once before I kill the target. That way the other person gets their three/four/two items as well. With the same chance at getting the treasure loot as you, at the same time. Hypothetically you can probably get the plan at the same time as the other.Edited by ValkyriesWolf on August 30, 2017 10:24PMMetal forever \m/0
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anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The only true valid method is pick-pick-pick (yes some NPCs have more than three items - that happens if they drop style mats, furniture items or furniture recipes), pick until "empty", and then stab.
Courtesy requires to wait for all players around to have picked until empty before stabbing - but that's admittedly not always easy to know for sure.
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firedrgn✭✭✭✭✭Hmmm I guess for someone that makes his money in,game by stealing,I should pay more attention.0
