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getting really tided of the abuse and the cheating

wolveman
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Ok here goes I would love to know why is the cheating still allowed in pvp on Xbox,ps4,pc? And before anyone judge I am in fact disabled have a hard time typing do to medical issues you will not understand unless you have it yourself.

Am on both Xbox and pc and I was a beta tester for this game when it first was introduced than I believe a year later I went to Xbox One .
Now I have seen a lot of botting and a lot of cheating and no matter how many times you report these players they manage to continue to get back on line and do it again and they don't give a crap.
Am ebon heart I play a lot in pvp for the alliance points for jewelry etc. Now I was in riften tonight and there was a bunch of dagger fell and ad knocking down the ebon heart pact this is a on going thing the abuse is way out there they sit and rank one alliance down think it's funny .

I spoke up and told these players to knock it off they got down right nasty at me this is common in the rift .

I ask one simple question they got very defensive over it and that question was as I said why is that for months on end I see your alliance mingle a lot with ad and both work as a team gank and make fun of ebon heart players? They swore up and down I don't know what your talking about one had said you reds that work with the yellows I said yeah ok that's why I seen for many months been all yellow and blues one after the other attacking reds .

Now this is one many things the Zenimax choose to ignore as for the hacking with cheat engine on pc now cheating on Xbox live as well on ps4 I spoke to a few reps through customer support on Microsoft there aware of this one rep told me that thee cheaters have programs from the pc base to there Xbox to cheat and no one can deny this it's been on YouTube, Reddit, and many times in post on here you cant tell me that 20 or so eb players chasing after 1 blue cant kill him isn't cheating ?
I seen blues kill though keep doors floors and even though walls I even seen it in the sewers on many occasions and I have reported and blocked god knows how many players who are doing this.
I pleaded with Zenimax and told them over and over please do something about the hacks the cheats and the exploits that these players continue using in player verses players mode.

I was in the sewer a few months back and near the bank next thing I knew it I was being shot at I said wth? it was a yellow shooting through the wall some how they managed to go outside the map and attack players again I sent in a ticket and all I get is ty for the report I even sent in photos and I have videos to prove that this is going on. What is sad why do these players need to cheat use exploits what do they want to prove that they need to cheat to gain the advantage?
And when is Zenimax going to start putting better restrictions on there game and there is so much racism going on calling people the "N" word amongst other racial slurs very offensive and very childish behavior.
Now this is not the first time I seen a post like this on many sites all I can say I know what am talking about I seen it I even did research on a few players one I reported a few weeks ago and they have his gamer tag and I don't believe this player will be allowed to play on Xbox live again after this he was caught not only using hacks cheat exploits but posted it on YouTube as evidence so Microsoft can see for themselves . This player posted from black ops 2 gta5 and eso online and had this one video with his Xbox one next to his pc while he was running programs to the game system .
So please explain to me why these game company's allow it and why don't they start kicking these players offline not only it's against the tos, but a federal crime and can be punished with a heavy fine and imprisonment this guy was able to control my actions through my game controller and they said your froze b1tch and caused my game system to shut down I contacted Microsoft reset my modem and they checked my system and went after this player.
So point is and sorry for the long post zos needs to put more restrictions monitor the game on all systems and start doing there job frankly am not the only one dealing with this.

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    Slick_007 wrote: »
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    He's not typing. That's voice to text. He's disabled, as he said. Quit being mean.


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  • dpencil1
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    2v1 Alliances is working as intended. Just like with BGs, sometimes two teams will focus down the third team. Yeah it sucks to be that third team, especially if the reason they teamed up wasn't because you were dominating them already, but it's the nature of 3 way fights.

    As to your complaints about exploits, I do know that ZOS has taken action in the past with things like the chaining ultimates or gap-closing into keeps exploits. It's often slow, as are just about all changes that ZOS rolls out, and this is mainly due to a lengthy testing and QA process. It may not be ideal, but neither is rushing a fix they "hope" will work, which only creates further problems.

    Cheat engines, I have no experience of, at least not to my knowledge. Can a super tanky character get wailed on by 10-20 pugs without "cheats"? Absolutrly, or at least it was possible before nerfs to Troll King etc. The game leaves a lot of room for building wacky setups that feel gamebreaking, so I'd be very wary of jumping to "that has to be a cheat engine!"
  • disintegr8
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    All of this happens because we are human, it is present in the game just as it is in the real world - sometimes to a greater extent due to the anonymity or the internet.

    You can either ignore it, try to fight it, or move on.

    To me it is only a game and I have much bigger worries in my life than fighting for world peace in a game.
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  • itscompton
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    Unfortunately almost any competitive activity will have a portion of the participants who are just dishonorable clowns who think cheating is ok and in a game with so much code there are also tons of possible exploits to let them do it. I am glad I play on PS4 because while it is possible to cheat at least you have to go through the trouble of buying special hardware to do it so it's not as rampant.
    What's funny though is Team Green (yellow and blue) work together just as much on PS4 as they do on Xbox, if not more. I could post video of large groups of blue and yellow ignoring each other to go after a much smaller group of EP, not sure the reason other than every time there are equal numbers of us against one or both other alliances we trash them so maybe they're just salty. I really wish there was some kind of mechanic in place to discourage it though, EP can never win a campaign because nearly every fight winds up 2v1. That then gets compounded by alliance traitors who switch to alt characters mid-campaign so they can be on the winning side. Cyrodiil was much better when you could only have one character in a Campaign.
    Edited by itscompton on August 28, 2017 3:16AM
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    rule number one - most folks don't like being told what to do...if you ever end up stuck in a leadership situation it's one of the first things you learn...

    rule number two - it's only a game...

    until I can think of more "rules" - these two will have to do...

    each new day is all we have...don't sweat the little stuff...

    hopefully when you look inward - it's a bright and happy place...cuz, that's the only thing you can truly control - everything else is chaos, more or less...

    Edit: just read through most of the rest of your post...yikes, if you go looking for conflict - chances are very good you'll find it...
    Edited by geonsocal on August 28, 2017 3:36AM
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  • Gilvoth
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    i am also EP alliance and i see the things you see and know what you arereffering to, you also have said thingsa i was not aware of but i just wasnt you to know you are not alone in your beliefs and what you are going through.
    i struggle along with you seeing these things.
    you are good people @wolveman
    glad to know you, and hope to meet you ingame as a friend.
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    itscompton wrote: »
    Unfortunately almost any competitive activity will have a portion of the participants who are just dishonorable clowns who think cheating is ok and in a game with so much code there are also tons of possible exploits to let them do it. I am glad I play on PS4 because while it is possible to cheat at least you have to go through the trouble of buying special hardware to do it so it's not as rampant.
    What's funny though is Team Green (yellow and blue) work together just as much on PS4 as they do on Xbox, if not more. I could post video of large groups of blue and yellow ignoring each other to go after a much smaller group of EP, not sure the reason other than every time there are equal numbers of us against one or both other alliances we trash them so maybe they're just salty. I really wish there was some kind of mechanic in place to discourage it though, EP can never win a campaign because nearly every fight winds up 2v1. That then gets compounded by alliance traitors who switch to alt characters mid-campaign so they can be on the winning side. Cyrodiil was much better when you could only have one character in a Campaign.

    Thanks as a yellow i also have plenty LG Screenshots with Team Purple fighting side by side. Having 2, chars with different Alliance in 1 campain was a huge mistake imo.
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  • Gilvoth
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    i had no problem reading it.
    Edited by Gilvoth on August 28, 2017 6:11AM
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    To stop cheating ZOS would have to spend money on something like Valve Anti-cheat.

    Spending any kind of money on this game that doesn't directly sell more boxes is antithetical to how ZOS is supposed to operate as dictated by Zenimax Media.

    Remember we aren't dealing with Bethesda here. The people that actually created and loved the Elder Scrolls Franchise. Just a shell company created with the sole purpose of exploiting this rich franchise for maximum return.

    ZOS could end the Lag and the cheating. But hey, lets just rename DLCs to "chapter" and make our financials look good to the board.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on August 28, 2017 6:12AM
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    i had no problem reading it.

    Yeah, that could just be on me. I've been nursing a mild headache all evening.
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    Prior to ESO's launch, it was rumored by major publications like Forbes that ESO had a budget of 200M USD. It launched behind schedule, was clearly unfinished in many ways, and had a disastrous first year.

    While it may arguably be a successful game now, I don't think it has come close to living up to the expectations of stakeholders. It was made to be a WoW killer and fell flat on its face.

    I think it's possible ESO hasn't paid for its development yet, which is why it remains deficient in so many ways and why the business model has evolved the way it has.

    It might be that everyone at ZOS shares our frustrations but is bound by return on investment pressure from stakeholders to be razor-focused on the bottom line.

    Edited by zyk on August 29, 2017 12:07AM
  • Yarlenzey
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    I thought this was a complaint about ZOS, not players.
    But hey, lets just rename DLCs to "chapter" and make our financials look good to the board.

    What board?
    Is this a listed company?

    I got suspenders for saying "Testicular Mass" instead of "Balls". like, rilly.

  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Yarlenzey wrote: »
    I thought this was a complaint about ZOS, not players.
    But hey, lets just rename DLCs to "chapter" and make our financials look good to the board.

    What board?
    Is this a listed company?

    Private companies have boards too.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/board.asp?privcapId=27422911

  • supaskrub
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    zyk wrote: »
    I think it's possible ESO hasn't paid for its development yet, which is why it remains deficient in so many ways and why the business model has evolved the way it has.

    I'l wager you it has, ESO is a gold mine and ZOS know it.

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    CE still rocks, specially on DC side...
    Edited by Malmai on August 28, 2017 5:16PM
  • LegacyDM
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    supaskrub wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    I think it's possible ESO hasn't paid for its development yet, which is why it remains deficient in so many ways and why the business model has evolved the way it has.

    I'l wager you it has, ESO is a gold mine and ZOS know it.

    Star Wars the original movies was a gold mine and still is, yet it's still paying back residuals and has yet to make a profit..,
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  • ZOS_KatP
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    We have removed several comments from this thread that did not add anything constructive to the conversation. Please keep all further discussion relevant to the topic at hand.
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on August 28, 2017 6:12PM
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  • Inarre
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    I am in EP alliance on PC. While i dont deny occasionally the Purple team comes together, I see what you are saying about the green team being a thing. If people get hostile at you I would report and forget about it. I think it always seems especially apparent because its what I would call the strongest or most populated alliance teaming up on a smaller alliance, which... Well, I doubt that is what having three alliances in the game was intended for, but it is what it is, aye? Maybe we gotta make better friends with the other alliancces :lol:

    So that said, zos does not mingle in this "grey area". It's not a blatant violation of the rules so they look at it as making the game authentic to the "real" world with spies, cheats, scammers etc. Cheaper for them.

    The cheat bots. Well. Yeah you have a point man. But I see your discussion history about the same thing since last year and I don't think it's going away any time soon. Unfortunately, where people can cheat there will be those that will, and a company like zos just doesn't seem to be well equipped to deal with these people.

    And on console it is even harder. Look at other games on console, like Overwatch, the biggest game of the year (so they claim) and still no reliable report system direct to Blizzard for cheats, throwers and other abuse. Console seems like a very difficult thing for game companies to manage themselves... If Blizzard can't do it then ESO will be hard pressed to when they can't even manage the cheaters on the native platform.
  • Idinuse
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    Never thought I'd say this, but I wish we had Microsoft or similar supervising the TESO on PC. Maybe they would take matters like this seriously and not giggle it off or ignore it like Zos is doing.
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  • wolveman
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    Its a on going thing with this game and frankly I believe won't last much longer like
    Some other games blew in the wind .
    You really got some really bad players not only very racist but full of hate makes you wonder how there life style is really like at home.
    And there are very young children playing this game they are picking it up and doing the same thing if not more in front of there familys.
    I do get sick of it move on to other games but I played there games growing up morrowind oblivion skyrim so yea I love the story line but to see this on a online game you want to enjoy relax have fun then you have these players ruin the game by exploiting the crap out of it cheating etc. Oh yes bullying kind of makes you think these are very in happy people anger issues at home or just some punk who thinks its funny by making every ones life a living hell by doing these cheats to make a big name for themselfs.
    A real player does not cheat at all plays the game as it was made to do so .
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    There is a certain streamer who's name sounds like "abusive lady" who admitted to exploiting multiple (more than 2) 5 pc sets and multiple mundus stones. Banned 3 days... Zos doesn't care about it.
  • Caligamy_ESO
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    Yarlenzey wrote: »
    I thought this was a complaint about ZOS, not players.
    But hey, lets just rename DLCs to "chapter" and make our financials look good to the board.

    What board?
    Is this a listed company?

    Private companies have boards too.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/board.asp?privcapId=27422911

    ....gross! That fourth name on the list explains a lot of things for me.
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  • pod88kk
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    Had a weak a$$ yellow bomb blade pop up from under the floor in sejanus before hit him with one stun before he killed anyone then he went back underneath the outpost, stay there for 15 mins & when he popped up again I got his GT and reported them....... Have seen them pretty much every day since in game.
    Impeccable customer service :(
  • wolveman
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    Zos don't and here's why all they care like every other company case is sales what gets sold and how many copies not including crowns or any online payment .
    There getting sued for a song that they posted for fallout 4 that's in the works as we speak .
    I reported zenimax last year to the better buissnes burial the bbb got back stated that zenimax not listed in there data banks but I did find out that as of last year they have a very poor. Customer service rating "F" its on there page the bbb.
    Just waiting to watch this game go to crap they start losing subscribers and loss of players is a loss of cash that they can't make of this game and sit back and watch if they so a 360 change things.
    Send all reports to Microsoft call them up I think it 1888 4My Xbox or it could be 1800 4My Xbox talk to there customer service reps go to Microsoft forums address a strong post to the enforcement team addressing the problem .
    Also go to other sites that deal about cheaters post there .
    I.just keep sending reports to Microsoft.
  • StackonClown
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    There is a certain streamer who's name sounds like "abusive lady" who admitted to exploiting multiple (more than 2) 5 pc sets and multiple mundus stones. Banned 3 days... Zos doesn't care about it.

    i dont get the 'abusive nnnn'... can you give another description ?
  • Stinkyremy
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    On PS4 EU there is a certain player (wont name names) who has multiple dummy accounts, creates guilds, big populated trading guilds, then hands them over to the dummy accounts so he is able to be in control of vast amounts of guilds in prime locations in the game.
    He is making a killing in game and selling the gold IRL.
    He is destroying the games economy, and breaking the rules and spirit of the game.
    Zenimax has done nothing about it at all.
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Stinkyremy wrote: »
    On PS4 EU there is a certain player (wont name names) who has multiple dummy accounts, creates guilds, big populated trading guilds, then hands them over to the dummy accounts so he is able to be in control of vast amounts of guilds in prime locations in the game.
    He is making a killing in game and selling the gold IRL.
    He is destroying the games economy, and breaking the rules and spirit of the game.
    Zenimax has done nothing about it at all.

    ZOS loves guild traders for some reason and some of them are above the rules. Guild traders have had closed door meetings with ZOS and some of them have even gone back on these forums and bragged how they sold gold on the side for extra income. Parts of this game are rotten to the core.
  • JerzeeDevil
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    Blues cry about Team Orange
    Yellows about Team Purple
    Reds cry about Team Green

    Basically, it's all about perspective.

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