I am moving from PC to console and have a fast question. (not about characters)

Honghua · August 2017

Since i am paying a monthy sub on the steam for eso +
Will my account on console will have the eso+ as well as the PC one and i dont have to sub separately on console again?
Will my account have a morrowind update as well, when i bought it on PC?
Thanks for answers.

ProfessorKittyhawk · August 2017

Eso+ for pc is separate from ps4. Ps4 eso+ is separate from xbox1. Xbox1 eso+ is separate from pc. And you will not have Morrowind. Totally separate servers for each platform.

PieMaster1 · August 2017

Unless you have the money to buy EVERYTHING again, just stay on PC.

ThePrinceOfBargains · August 2017

While I can see someone wanting to move to PC from console, doing the opposite is just illogical in every way possible. Unless your PC runs like a potato, there are no benefits to this.

Mettaricana · August 2017

Yeah too costly unless you just dont care

Krayzie · August 2017

Better off on PC average console FPS is 15-20

Rohamad_Ali · August 2017

Having experience going from PC to console and the coming back to PC , it was a waste of time . Except for PVP which I found much easier on ps4 but very laggy .

TheDoomsdayMonster · August 2017

Ps4 does have the benefit of not having to deal with Cheat Engine using cheaters or any of the other programs out there (like Miats) that allow you advantages that one would not otherwise have...

IMHO, this is the reason to chose console over PC...

RouDeR · August 2017

If u go to PS4 make sure to have thr PRO or wait for the xbox 1X to come out . Believe me u dont wanna play on the standart PS4 or Xbox

Banana · August 2017

See a doctor quickly

bebynnag · August 2017

ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »

Eso+ for pc is separate from ps4. Ps4 eso+ is separate from xbox1. Xbox1 eso+ is separate from pc. And you will not have Morrowind. Totally separate servers for each platform.

this if you are moving to PS4 or xbox

although you mentioned steam, so its worth asking if you are talking about the steam console.
is ESO available to play on the steam console? (alienware steam machine)
the answer is IDK how that works or whether your ESO+ membership ill carry over.

Aurielle · August 2017

Krayzie wrote: »

Better off on PC average console FPS is 15-20

In Cyrodiil and trials, maybe. Everywhere else, I get a steady 25-30 FPS on PS4 NA with some minor stuttering in major cities during prime time. If you get an average of 15-20 FPS on console in the vast majority of the game content, then you're probably playing over a garbage wireless connection. Playing over a wired fiber connection makes a big difference.

GreenhaloX · August 2017

Hey, welcome to console if you have already made your move. However, moving between any platform is just like moving to a new city. You're starting over again. Have to get a new house, new job, new school, new friends and new excitement. Nothing is really connected. Also, not any inclination to start a platform war here.. I just enjoy the gaming experience on console more. I've played games on PC before, but enjoyed on console more because I'm far away from the TV, and the PS4 controller is more user friendly to me. Sure, with nowaday's technology, you can connect a PC to the big 4K ultra HDTV, but wiring running across the room.. nahh.. Plus, playing the game on console, I am also able to do stuff on my PC at the same time. Hey, to each their own; whatever works. As far as cheating, well, probably not as rampant as on PC, but there are cheaters out and about on PS4. How they are doing it on console? Man, I'm just not technologically smart enough to figure that out.

Simit · August 2017

You have to pay more to play ESO on console once you factor in xbox live or ps plus an believe me you cannot login to ESO without them even if you have ESO+, my ps plus ran out mid dungeon an straight away iwas kicked from servers.

If your on pc your doing yourself a disservice playing this on console, if i had option to play on even the shittiest pc i'd ditch console, but then i'd prob just play eve or wow

Aurielle · August 2017

Simit wrote: »

If your on pc your doing yourself a disservice playing this on console, if i had option to play on even the shittiest pc i'd ditch console, but then i'd prob just play eve or wow

Don't be so sure about that.

I used to play ESO on a potato laptop. There is NOTHING fun about playing this game on low-med settings, with shadows disabled and medium sub-sampling enabled just to break the 25 FPS mark. It felt so awesome when I switched to console and was ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEE SHADOWS IN THE GAME without crawling down to 2-5 FPS. Also, I can't even begin to tell you how great it is to not get irritating whispers during dungeons from people with that loot add-on installed. If I wanted to give/sell you that divines piece I just got, I'd freaking link it in chat.

If you can't play the game without add-ons, then yeah, stick to PC. If you can play without add-ons, you BY NO MEANS do yourself a disservice by playing on console. Why would I shell out $1000+ on a gaming PC when I have an awesome experience on console for a quarter of the cost?

LjAnimalchin · August 2017

Aurielle wrote: »

Simit wrote: »

If your on pc your doing yourself a disservice playing this on console, if i had option to play on even the shittiest pc i'd ditch console, but then i'd prob just play eve or wow

Don't be so sure about that. I used to play ESO on a potato laptop. There is NOTHING fun about playing this game on low-med settings, with shadows disabled and medium sub-sampling enabled just to break the 25 FPS mark. It felt so awesome when I switched to console and was ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEE SHADOWS IN THE GAME without crawling down to 2-5 FPS. Also, I can't even begin to tell you how great it is to not get irritating whispers during dungeons from people with that loot add-on installed. If I wanted to give/sell you that divines piece I just got, I'd freaking link it in chat.

If you can't play the game without add-ons, then yeah, stick to PC. If you can play without add-ons, you BY NO MEANS do yourself a disservice by playing on console. Why would I shell out $1000+ on a gaming PC when I have an awesome experience on console for a quarter of the cost?

I built my first gaming pc for 400 dollars us and it played this game on max settings

Consoles cost what, 300 dollars? If you're really that cheap you're willing to downgrade your potential experience, for months, to save a hundred dollars or less, by all means..

TequilaFire · August 2017

LjAnimalchin wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Simit wrote: »

If your on pc your doing yourself a disservice playing this on console, if i had option to play on even the shittiest pc i'd ditch console, but then i'd prob just play eve or wow

Don't be so sure about that. I used to play ESO on a potato laptop. There is NOTHING fun about playing this game on low-med settings, with shadows disabled and medium sub-sampling enabled just to break the 25 FPS mark. It felt so awesome when I switched to console and was ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEE SHADOWS IN THE GAME without crawling down to 2-5 FPS. Also, I can't even begin to tell you how great it is to not get irritating whispers during dungeons from people with that loot add-on installed. If I wanted to give/sell you that divines piece I just got, I'd freaking link it in chat.

If you can't play the game without add-ons, then yeah, stick to PC. If you can play without add-ons, you BY NO MEANS do yourself a disservice by playing on console. Why would I shell out $1000+ on a gaming PC when I have an awesome experience on console for a quarter of the cost?

I built my first gaming pc for 400 dollars us and it played this game on max settings

Consoles cost what, 300 dollars? If you're really that cheap you're willing to downgrade your potential experience, for months, to save a hundred dollars or less, by all means..

Gotta put my boots on, my graphics cards cost more than that on my PC.
And in the end I enjoy playing on console more.

Aurielle · August 2017

LjAnimalchin wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Simit wrote: »

If your on pc your doing yourself a disservice playing this on console, if i had option to play on even the shittiest pc i'd ditch console, but then i'd prob just play eve or wow

Don't be so sure about that. I used to play ESO on a potato laptop. There is NOTHING fun about playing this game on low-med settings, with shadows disabled and medium sub-sampling enabled just to break the 25 FPS mark. It felt so awesome when I switched to console and was ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEE SHADOWS IN THE GAME without crawling down to 2-5 FPS. Also, I can't even begin to tell you how great it is to not get irritating whispers during dungeons from people with that loot add-on installed. If I wanted to give/sell you that divines piece I just got, I'd freaking link it in chat.

If you can't play the game without add-ons, then yeah, stick to PC. If you can play without add-ons, you BY NO MEANS do yourself a disservice by playing on console. Why would I shell out $1000+ on a gaming PC when I have an awesome experience on console for a quarter of the cost?

I built my first gaming pc for 400 dollars us and it played this game on max settings

Consoles cost what, 300 dollars? If you're really that cheap you're willing to downgrade your potential experience, for months, to save a hundred dollars or less, by all means..

Yeah, not all of us can build our own PCs or want to potentially waste money on buying parts that get wrecked by a first-timer's mistakes. I'm looking at well over CDN $1000 for a good pre-built gaming PC, which is just not feasible for me at this point in time. Considering that I don't use my PC for anything more than browsing the internet and Word/Excel, spending that sort of money to get 60 FPS in a video game simply isn't worth it. I'm perfectly happy getting 30 FPS and high quality graphics (maybe not AS high as high-end PC graphics where some online games are concerned, but still damn good for the price) in a wide variety of games -- some of which I can't play on PC anyway. I hardly consider the console experience a "downgrade." Dunno why you PC master-race types always have to be so sarcastic and holier-than-thou when people tell you they literally cannot afford pre-built gaming PCs.

Krayzie · August 2017

Aurielle wrote: »

Krayzie wrote: »

Better off on PC average console FPS is 15-20

In Cyrodiil and trials, maybe. Everywhere else, I get a steady 25-30 FPS on PS4 NA with some minor stuttering in major cities during prime time. If you get an average of 15-20 FPS on console in the vast majority of the game content, then you're probably playing over a garbage wireless connection. Playing over a wired fiber connection makes a big difference.

Nope, hardwire google =]

ANyone playing ESO on wireless is insane

However, no matter how good your connection is, console still gets major frame rate issues do to the amount of graphically heavy skills.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2017

Aurielle wrote: »

If you get an average of 15-20 FPS on console in the vast majority of the game content, then you're probably playing over a garbage wireless connection. Playing over a wired fiber connection makes a big difference.

Your statement is so wrong that it's against the laws of nature(i.e. Darwinism).

"Frames Per Second" of your display has absolutely NOTHING to do with internet connection. It's all hardware capabilities and the consoles are 5 years old or more(?) now. That's a very low-spec pc for a game that was meant to push the hardware when it was made and is only getting harder on hardware.

The "Lag" people mention when talking about online play is not FPS slowdown but actually because each command has to go to the server and back before it can actually trigger. It's more like the fact that the sun is so far away that light from it takes 8 minutes to reach us, meaning we see the sun as it was 8 minutes ago. The sun is lagging. Lag is a measure of distance over time.
Lag is the fact that when you input an action it takes much longer to actually happen on the game than you expect, and other player actions tend to happen much too fast because you don't get the commands for the entire action until after it is completed.
This is most evident when you see other players jumping forward without having apparently moved along that distance while your own character is not attacking even though you are pressing the button.

Aurielle · August 2017

Krayzie wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Krayzie wrote: »

Better off on PC average console FPS is 15-20

In Cyrodiil and trials, maybe. Everywhere else, I get a steady 25-30 FPS on PS4 NA with some minor stuttering in major cities during prime time. If you get an average of 15-20 FPS on console in the vast majority of the game content, then you're probably playing over a garbage wireless connection. Playing over a wired fiber connection makes a big difference.

Nope, hardwire google =]

ANyone playing ESO on wireless is insane

However, no matter how good your connection is, console still gets major frame rate issues do to the amount of graphically heavy skills.

Fair enough, but where are you seeing these losses? The only time I have noticeable, annoying FPS drops is when I'm at overcrowded dolmens or when I map into city centres with the inevitable must-duel-at-the-wayshrine idiots. I don't often venture into Cyrodiil, but that's the only other time I get big FPS drops. The game (for me, at least) is smooth while questing and running 4-man dungeons.

Hopefully when we get the graphical changes that are coming with HotR, the lag caused by large groups of people spamming skills (e.g. at dolmens) won't be as bad.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2017

Krayzie wrote: »

Nope, hardwire google =]

ANyone playing ESO on wireless is insane

Wireless internet is just fine for any game.

Many people used to game online back in the days of 56k modems. I specifically had a 256kbps connection for many years due to where I live, with actual throughput closer to 128k.(edit: and I gamed online very well over that. Not to mention WoW somehow has code that compensates for lag because I could time my skill activations in that game to play as if I wasn't lagging. I wish more games would figure that out for times when lag happens.)
I reliably game very well over my cellphone 4g LTE connection which has an average 4mbps connection, better than my home net which averages 7mbps but bounces bewteen 3-10mbps sometimes.
Games use very little bandwidth these days, and less in the old days when they had less to work with.

What matters is if you are using other streaming services like youtube or netflix while gaming. Those will hog your bandwidth. Also, if your connection is unreliable, constantly losing information and having to resend it(like turning a light switch on and off and on again), then you will have lag(nothing to do with fps) on even the fastest connection.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2017

TequilaFire wrote: »

LjAnimalchin wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Simit wrote: »

If you can't play the game without add-ons, then yeah, stick to PC. If you can play without add-ons, you BY NO MEANS do yourself a disservice by playing on console. Why would I shell out $1000+ on a gaming PC when I have an awesome experience on console for a quarter of the cost?

I built my first gaming pc for 400 dollars us and it played this game on max settings

Consoles cost what, 300 dollars? If you're really that cheap you're willing to downgrade your potential experience, for months, to save a hundred dollars or less, by all means..

Gotta put my boots on, my graphics cards cost more than that on my PC.
And in the end I enjoy playing on console more.

You don't need to buy a top of the line graphics card to play the game well. My current graphics card nearly plays the game at max and would only cost about $50, if that, today. This pc, without a monitor or keyboard or optical drive which I already had, boots up within 15 seconds from a SSD without any HDD and 8GB of ram with a GTX765 graphics card for only $781 about 4 years ago. It even looks cool as a small form factor PC with the option of easy storage drive swapping. I got it on a labor day sale but it wouldn't have been too much more without it.
PCs are amazingly cheap these days, unless you want a laptop or a monitor included, since that is where the cost really adds up. PC also has the option for many different VR options, which some consoles lack completely and others are limited to a single option.

FYI whether the resolution is 4k or 1080p/i or 30inch versus 60inch, you won't be able to tell the difference depending on the distance you are from the TV due to "pixels per inch" versus distance scaling. You put a bigger higher resolution tv farther away and it looks the same as a smaller lower resolution tv that is closer.
So, settle for 1080p which is common enough and good enough to save yourself a lot of money.

P.S.
I enjoy the best of both worlds with my Xbox One controller for Windows. It works way better for gaming than using a keyboard designed for typing to control a game.

Cyberwolffe · August 2017

I have thought about changing to PS4 to play this game, but only because my son plays on PS4 and that way we could play together since I can afford the change easier than he could change from PS4 to PC.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2017

Cyberwolffe wrote: »

I have thought about changing to PS4 to play this game, but only because my son plays on PS4 and that way we could play together since I can afford the change easier than he could change from PS4 to PC.

This is absolutely the only reason to change from PC to console, unless you can trade in your pc for a huge discount.
Playing with other people in any multiplayer game is the main reason to play that game.

Arguing hardware and performance and price is unimportant in the grand scheme. Price is comparable and hardware differences can be tolerated or somewhat compensated for.

Where is cross-play between consoles and PC at least as an option on a new server possibly? Limiting people to 3 separate communities for the exact same game can be so annoying.
And no, there is no difference in the quality or type of player across any platform. People are always how they are on any platform. There are probably more jerks and idiots on PC than console even due to less strict policing of behavior.

Krayzie · August 2017

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Krayzie wrote: »

Nope, hardwire google =]

ANyone playing ESO on wireless is insane

Wireless internet is just fine for any game.

Many people used to game online back in the days of 56k modems. I specifically had a 256kbps connection for many years due to where I live, with actual throughput closer to 128k. I reliably game very well over my cellphone 4g LTE connection which has an average 4mbps connection, better than my home net which averages 7mbps but bounces bewteen 3-10mbps sometimes.
Games use very little bandwidth these days, and less in the old days when they had less to work with.

What matters is if you are using other streaming services like youtube or netflix while gaming. Those will hog your bandwidth. Also, if your connection is unreliable, constantly losing information and having to resend it(like turning a light switch on and off and on again), then you will have lag(nothing to do with fps) on even the fastest connection.

Sure if you wanna experience latency and have no problem with that, yea it's fine.

We're talking about console hardware, goodluck having a pleasant experience in Cyrodiil on a wireless connection.

Are you comparing gaming online with a 56k modem with your doom 2 friends to a current day MMO?

Not everyone is streaming on netflix and youtube while they play?

But sure, get on your console and play ESO wireless.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2017

Krayzie wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Krayzie wrote: »

Nope, hardwire google =]

ANyone playing ESO on wireless is insane

Wireless internet is just fine for any game.

Many people used to game online back in the days of 56k modems. I specifically had a 256kbps connection for many years due to where I live, with actual throughput closer to 128k. I reliably game very well over my cellphone 4g LTE connection which has an average 4mbps connection, better than my home net which averages 7mbps but bounces bewteen 3-10mbps sometimes.
Games use very little bandwidth these days, and less in the old days when they had less to work with.

What matters is if you are using other streaming services like youtube or netflix while gaming. Those will hog your bandwidth. Also, if your connection is unreliable, constantly losing information and having to resend it(like turning a light switch on and off and on again), then you will have lag(nothing to do with fps) on even the fastest connection.

Sure if you wanna experience latency and have no problem with that, yea it's fine.

We're talking about console hardware, goodluck having a pleasant experience in Cyrodiil on a wireless connection.

1) I game without any lag perfectly fine on wireless 3 floors above my router. I have maximized the efficiency and use the 5Ghz band for better connection.

2) Cyrodiil is just screwed up anyway due to being too huge a zone with too many things going on at once. You will never game smoothly there on any connection.

3) Lag has nothing to do with FPS. Cyrodiil has more trouble with FPS than lag. I don't even lag much in Cyrodiil on my connection.

Like I said, my 4g LTE connection on my smartphone with hotspot is more reliable and smooth, meaning less lag, than my dedicated home connection with higher bandwidth. My ping is consistently about 70-100ms.(ping matters most for the connection to the game, not bandwidth)

Games don't need 1 Gigabyte-per-second download speeds because we're not trying to download all 60-80GBs of the game data all over again every time we game.
Meter your bandwidth usage on your computer and play just the game and see how much data it uses. You will see what I mean. Every bit of data exchanged between the game on your pc and the server is minimized to the absolutely necessary data only and then compressed so that the game is playable for more than just the select few players lucky to live in areas with high end internet. The majority of players do not have access to the best internet.

Hell, even if you have the best internet in your area, you still have to deal with load due to amount of users. So, I bet my internet here in "the middle of nowhere" is actually faster connecting to the server because I have fewer neighbors clogging up the connections near my end as everything farther away is high end high bandwidth all the way to the game servers.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2017

Also fyi, I play on PC. I'm not on console.

Wireless is just fine.

If you don't believe that then I have a gaming modem I want to sell you that will maximize your network performance on wired internet to the game servers by prioritizing the traffic of the game over other users and software. It will only cost $1000 and $50 shipping for 5 day delivery. It's made by Cysco.*

*modem only shows that performance on Google Fiber in the newest installs with only one user on the connection at the time and that difference is only 0.1% compared to modems that cost $100; not all customers will qualify for speed unless they subscribe to the monthly speed upgrade; not available in Alaska or Hawaii or outside any major US city; not an actual product by any company but similar claims are made by other products.

People are so gullible they will buy anything that claims "much better performance" while the fine print keeps them from being sued because that performance never ever happens.

You're just drinking the wired-cult koolaid based on old wireless performance stats that are outdated and never replaced with new tested measurements.
I tested it for myself. My wireless is just as good or better than my wired connection.

The main problem with my connection is that I'm literally at least a thousand miles from the servers. Everything else is academic small differences that don't affect the connection.

Aurielle · August 2017

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Krayzie wrote: »

Nope, hardwire google =]

ANyone playing ESO on wireless is insane

Wireless internet is just fine for any game.

Many people used to game online back in the days of 56k modems. I specifically had a 256kbps connection for many years due to where I live, with actual throughput closer to 128k.(edit: and I gamed online very well over that. Not to mention WoW somehow has code that compensates for lag because I could time my skill activations in that game to play as if I wasn't lagging. I wish more games would figure that out for times when lag happens.)
I reliably game very well over my cellphone 4g LTE connection which has an average 4mbps connection, better than my home net which averages 7mbps but bounces bewteen 3-10mbps sometimes.
Games use very little bandwidth these days, and less in the old days when they had less to work with.

What matters is if you are using other streaming services like youtube or netflix while gaming. Those will hog your bandwidth. Also, if your connection is unreliable, constantly losing information and having to resend it(like turning a light switch on and off and on again), then you will have lag(nothing to do with fps) on even the fastest connection.

I concede that I made a boo-boo by conflating FPS with connection type, but the general consensus has long been that wired > wireless on console as far as connection stability goes. I'm not entirely sure why (I fix people, not computers, heh), but I do know that switching to wired made a huge difference for me, both on PS4 and on my BF's XB1. Probably a hardware-related issue. I used to rubberband and D/C frequently on various multiplayer games (from Uncharted 4 to Battlefront) when I played via wi-fi. Switching to a wired connection several months back resolved all of those issues.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2017

Aurielle wrote: »

I concede that I made a boo-boo by conflating FPS with connection type, but the general consensus has long been that wired > wireless on console as far as connection stability goes.

"has long been"

That's the problem. Everyone pulls out old statistics when they try to say wired is better than wireless.

I'll give you the real honest reasons that wired is better sometimes:

1) Distance to the wireless router and objects between the pc and router are often interfering if people do not understand how to place the modem and router.
I actually work for a company that has internet service and often has techs install the modem at "one end of the house" due to it being where the cord comes in and nobody wanting to run wires through their house. Most houses are not pre-wired for internet.

2) Interference from other devices on the 2.4Ghz radio band.
This is minimized if you use 5Ghz band and if you don't have multiple other wireless devices running at the same time. Why do we need wireless control of all our lights and thermostat to our router when we could wire the tech to the modem or just physically adjust things while at home either coming or going?
That is probably the issue you were having. Too much interference causing spikes in data loss.

Wireless tech is now far exceeding any bottleneck problems for gaming that it used to have.
Sadly, streaming video is still limited because it still requires a lot of data per second. Just look at the file size for a .jpg format image on your computer and multiply that by 30 for the data usage per second for a video at 30fps streamed. It's a lot and not very easily compressed further.

Krayzie · August 2017

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Krayzie wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Krayzie wrote: »

Nope, hardwire google =]

ANyone playing ESO on wireless is insane

Wireless internet is just fine for any game.

Many people used to game online back in the days of 56k modems. I specifically had a 256kbps connection for many years due to where I live, with actual throughput closer to 128k. I reliably game very well over my cellphone 4g LTE connection which has an average 4mbps connection, better than my home net which averages 7mbps but bounces bewteen 3-10mbps sometimes.
Games use very little bandwidth these days, and less in the old days when they had less to work with.

What matters is if you are using other streaming services like youtube or netflix while gaming. Those will hog your bandwidth. Also, if your connection is unreliable, constantly losing information and having to resend it(like turning a light switch on and off and on again), then you will have lag(nothing to do with fps) on even the fastest connection.

Sure if you wanna experience latency and have no problem with that, yea it's fine.

We're talking about console hardware, goodluck having a pleasant experience in Cyrodiil on a wireless connection.

1) I game without any lag perfectly fine on wireless 3 floors above my router. I have maximized the efficiency and use the 5Ghz band for better connection.

2) Cyrodiil is just screwed up anyway due to being too huge a zone with too many things going on at once. You will never game smoothly there on any connection.

3) Lag has nothing to do with FPS. Cyrodiil has more trouble with FPS than lag. I don't even lag much in Cyrodiil on my connection.

Like I said, my 4g LTE connection on my smartphone with hotspot is more reliable and smooth, meaning less lag, than my dedicated home connection with higher bandwidth. My ping is consistently about 70-100ms.(ping matters most for the connection to the game, not bandwidth)

Games don't need 1 Gigabyte-per-second download speeds because we're not trying to download all 60-80GBs of the game data all over again every time we game.
Meter your bandwidth usage on your computer and play just the game and see how much data it uses. You will see what I mean. Every bit of data exchanged between the game on your pc and the server is minimized to the absolutely necessary data only and then compressed so that the game is playable for more than just the select few players lucky to live in areas with high end internet. The majority of players do not have access to the best internet.

Hell, even if you have the best internet in your area, you still have to deal with load due to amount of users. So, I bet my internet here in "the middle of nowhere" is actually faster connecting to the server because I have fewer neighbors clogging up the connections near my end as everything farther away is high end high bandwidth all the way to the game servers.

Correct, lag has nothing to do with FPS as I stated earlier.