Why do people sleep on Overwhelming Surge

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KingJ
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It a really good set on magplar and magdk.In BG its free damage and its a dot that breaks cloak and proc skoria.I only fought 2 people who ran it 1 a really good buddy but most people think it sucks and just ignore it.Its a set that proc constantly and can be really proc for free on a magplar.

So why do people think the set so weak?It's a magic viper pre nerf imo and now they Pretty much the same.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Ive calculated the dps gain once and it was less than 1k so other sets are much better
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  • Waffennacht
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    It's got it's niche builds. I would have tried it but no jewelry has dropped for me

    Grothdar + Hurricane + Surge + Flurry + daedric prison ability on sorc = lmfao as you die but can't do anything
    Edited by Waffennacht on August 26, 2017 9:27PM
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  • DeHei
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    Its really one of the best 5 piece sets in PvP actually. I do sometimes 30% damage just with skoria and overwhelming B)
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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    It's got it's niche builds. I would have tried it but no jewelry has dropped for me

    Grothdar + Hurricane + Surge + Flurry + daedric prison ability on sorc = lmfao as you die but can't do anything

    Am I missing something or can't you simply break free from prison?
  • Waffennacht
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    Am I missing something or can't you simply break free from prison?

    Oh you can... Until you're out of stamina!!!

    Lmfao, it's actually a decent build, ran it a few times.

    Just constantly use that prison move until they can't CC break for a few secs. Now is it something I would wanna competitively run? No, but it is fun!

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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Mainly bc 6k over 6 seconds isn't anything spectacular.
  • Waffennacht
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    Mainly bc 6k over 6 seconds isn't anything spectacular.

    Not by itself, but it does give classes access to a pbaoe dot. Which then allows players to run Skoria on a class without them.

    Example, warden has no way to proc skoria (don't you dare say Artic Wind is worth slotting on a DD build)

    But with Grothdarr, Overwhelming, and something like Destructive Touch, you now can run Skoria with a 24% proc chance per sec.
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  • Kartalin
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    But with Grothdarr, Overwhelming, and something like Destructive Touch, you now can run Skoria with a 24% proc chance per sec.
    Grothdarr and Skoria, eh? Sounds pretty OP ;)
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  • dpencil1
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    Grothdarr + Skoria? .......
  • Waffennacht
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    dpencil1 wrote: »
    Grothdarr + Skoria? .......

    Ok, well, I was in haste! You know what I mean!

    Lmao.

    But yeah, that's like totally awesome

    Edit: um. Surge + skoria + touch + ... Um... Give me a sec...Storm Knight or Bahahahahahahaa's Curse

    Yeah... That's what I meant
    Edited by Waffennacht on August 27, 2017 11:21PM
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    I don't like it mainly because it focuses the closest target instead of procing on 1 and staying with it. When you are fighting out numbered and it splits its damage between two or 3 ppl it's not good at all.

    It's fun in duels. I went light armor templar using shields and IG for fun with OS and yes you can kill ppl with the cast of 1 vamps bane, 1 shield, and radiant.
    Edited by Brutusmax1mus on August 28, 2017 12:49AM
  • Zeromaz
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    This set is great in pvp. Its passive damage on top of your abilities and weaving.
  • Exodium
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    Can someone confirm whether the tooltip on overwhelming is buffed by thaumaturge?
  • Vanzen
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    Pls stop talking about this set ...
  • KingJ
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    Vanzen wrote: »
    Pls stop talking about this set ...
    No its a great set.
  • Ariades_swe
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    Stop mention it...
  • VirtualElizabeth
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    It's a horrible set!!!!!!!! STOP talking about it NOW
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  • KingJ
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    Stop mention it...
    It's a horrible set!!!!!!!! STOP talking about it NOW
    Never.
  • KingJ
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    Overwhelming surge is one of the best magic DPs sets out there for PVP .On a magblade and magplar.Combine it with skoria its amazing.
    Edited by KingJ on November 6, 2017 2:38AM
  • Sylphie
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    Been running it for awhile.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fox4eAsIVc8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZME5Buz964

    Extremely strong set on MagDK in 1v1s, even more so if you run lightning staff backbar.
    Edited by Sylphie on November 6, 2017 7:52AM
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  • Baconlad
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    Yeh...keep talking about it, zos is gonna nerf hammer the *** out of it.
  • fred4
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    Not suitable for a cloaking magblade, since cloak will activate it, hit the nearest target, and expose you.

    The highest damage against target skeleton, by a small margin, among a handful of sets I use on my magden. Can proc increased damage from concussion. The reason I prefer other sets is for stacking magicka, and hence bigger shields, rather than spell damage. Also going with, say, Necropotence and a crafted set, such as Shacklebreaker allows me to go 5/1/1 on my staff build.
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  • Qbiken
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    fred4 wrote: »
    Not suitable for a cloaking magblade, since cloak will activate it, hit the nearest target, and expose you.

    The highest damage against target skeleton, by a small margin, among a handful of sets I use on my magden. Can proc increased damage from concussion. The reason I prefer other sets is for stacking magicka, and hence bigger shields, rather than spell damage. Also going with, say, Necropotence and a crafted set, such as Shacklebreaker allows me to go 5/1/1 on my staff build.

    Very effective set to counter/expose nightblades though :)
  • KingJ
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    Yeh...keep talking about it, zos is gonna nerf hammer the *** out of it.
    Wrobel doesnt know how to nerf this set.It such a niche set he would just nerf it now out of Spite .
  • lynog85
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    Had it for ages. Dmg from 5pc is crap.
  • Ragnaroek93
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    The set is OP: Only required on one bar, deals aoe dmg, procs Skoria and procs Concussion (free 8% incoming damage buff). It's ironic that stuff like this and Skoria is still in the game after stam procs got rekt so badly. Underused set which will probably become meta soon.
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  • Minno
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    OP or not, im not farming PVE anymore for my sets.

    Prisoner's was a big enough pain to farm for me; purple rings drop so rarely that they cost 10k minimum despite other similar LA sets are 500 gold for each purple jewel.

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  • KingJ
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    The set is OP: Only required on one bar, deals aoe dmg, procs Skoria and procs Concussion (free 8% incoming damage buff). It's ironic that stuff like this and Skoria is still in the game after stam procs got rekt so badly. Underused set which will probably become meta soon.
    A streamer hasn't started running it yet so no talking about it.
  • Methariorn
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    It's a good set for a magplar in smallscale/BG: free dps, concussion, it can proc skoria and on top of that good stat with two stack of spellpower and one of magicka: many dps magicka sets give you a stack of spell critical but I like the two spell power stack more.
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