Magicka Warden PvP Build (Pigeon Cannon)

cschwingeb14_ESO · August 2017

SnB has some of the best stam attacks around. It seems like a no-brainer for a class that has no CC and a ranged spamable. You don't even have to slot puncture since you get that debuff from beetles

SnB is better since the nerfing of weapon traits too.

Takes-No-Prisoner · August 2017

Hello OP, I feel I have seen your toon out in the wilds of Cyrodiil before! I can't remember if we fought each other in recent memory.

But the toon name rings a bell.

I've done small scale with a guy running a very close build to yours. It's off heals are really good for small scale play. The shield is great for keeping him alive and comfortably in the fight. This build definitely has my stamp of approval. Stands up solidly by itself and is a welcome sight in small scale situations with ally's.

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

SnB has some of the best stam attacks around. It seems like a no-brainer for a class that has no CC and a ranged spamable. You don't even have to slot puncture since you get that debuff from beetles

SnB is better since the nerfing of weapon traits too.

Skill wise...

SnB is great, but lacks hard damage to whittle down anyone in heavy.
2H attacks can be seen miles away.
DW is a joke in PvP.

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

Hello OP, I feel I have seen your toon out in the wilds of Cyrodiil before! I can't remember if we fought each other in recent memory. But the toon name rings a bell.

I've done small scale with a guy running a very close build to yours. It's off heals are really good for small scale play. The shield is great for keeping him alive and comfortably in the fight. This build definitely has my stamp of approval. Stands up solidly by itself and is a welcome sight in small scale situations with ally's.

Possibly, what's your PSN?

Takes-No-Prisoner · August 2017

Hatoreehanzo wrote: »

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

Hello OP, I feel I have seen your toon out in the wilds of Cyrodiil before! I can't remember if we fought each other in recent memory. But the toon name rings a bell.

I've done small scale with a guy running a very close build to yours. It's off heals are really good for small scale play. The shield is great for keeping him alive and comfortably in the fight. This build definitely has my stamp of approval. Stands up solidly by itself and is a welcome sight in small scale situations with ally's.

Possibly, what's your PSN?

Drogskol_Capn

Waffennacht · August 2017

Hey there @Hatoreehanzo I'm not entirely sold on a few of my options. Do you have any trouble Not having a soft CC and/or a more reliable hard CC?

I'm contemplating: Corrupting Pollen and/or Bird O Prey. But I am not sure. Would love to hear some of your thoughts.

VirtualElizabeth · August 2017

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

SnB has some of the best stam attacks around. It seems like a no-brainer for a class that has no CC and a ranged spamable. You don't even have to slot puncture since you get that debuff from beetles

SnB is better since the nerfing of weapon traits too.

So adding Stamina based skills on a Magicka works well? In the early days my Magplar was set up this way and I had a blast! Would love to do this with my Mag Warden.

To the OP - I took out my modified version of your build into Vivec this weekend and had a blast! Thanks for doing this post!

Tatertodd · August 2017

*pokes head in* I hate to interrupt but what build program are you using Hatoreehanzo?

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Hey there @Hatoreehanzo I'm not entirely sold on a few of my options. Do you have any trouble Not having a soft CC and/or a more reliable hard CC?

I'm contemplating: Corrupting Pollen and/or Bird O Prey. But I am not sure. Would love to hear some of your thoughts.

I don't personally, but poisons can offer you a fix to your CC problem, snares as well as stuns. I usually do not have a problem lining up fissure which stuns of course. If it's a smaller fight, say 1v3, I can usually put out enough pressure to alleviate my own. If it becomes more, then any class would tend to struggle less nightblades and sorcs.

As for either or, I run both. I find corrupting pollen to be too valuable to give up. Most people just stand in it and don't realize the consequences. Bird of Prey is my movement. The berserk is great when I remember to have it up, but it's mainly used by me for the movement.

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

VirtualElizabeth wrote: »

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

SnB has some of the best stam attacks around. It seems like a no-brainer for a class that has no CC and a ranged spamable. You don't even have to slot puncture since you get that debuff from beetles

SnB is better since the nerfing of weapon traits too.

So adding Stamina based skills on a Magicka works well? In the early days my Magplar was set up this way and I had a blast! Would love to do this with my Mag Warden.

To the OP - I took out my modified version of your build into Vivec this weekend and had a blast! Thanks for doing this post!

Glad you enjoyed it.

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

Tatertodd wrote: »

*pokes head in* I hate to interrupt but what build program are you using Hatoreehanzo?

Recently updated for HotR too!

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor

SanTii.92 · August 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Hey there @Hatoreehanzo I'm not entirely sold on a few of my options. Do you have any trouble Not having a soft CC and/or a more reliable hard CC?

I'm contemplating: Corrupting Pollen and/or Bird O Prey. But I am not sure. Would love to hear some of your thoughts.

Lack of reliable and soft Cc is one of the hardest weaknesses of mwarden, and where decent opponents should try to exploit. What I do when I feel like I need some more is immobilize poisons, but you'd need a destro, or crippling shards, immobilize and minor maim proc chance.

Waffennacht · August 2017

BTW I found a VERY nice use for budding seeds - permablock + Seeds + Trellis=

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

BTW I found a VERY nice use for budding seeds - permablock + Seeds + Trellis=

I saw a dude's build running plague doc and that harbringer telvar block damage set. Not my play style preference, but that man was a beast and utilized that mindset.

Tryxus · August 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

BTW I found a VERY nice use for budding seeds - permablock + Seeds + Trellis=

That's what I use on my healer setup, except I use Leeching not Trellis

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

BTW I found a VERY nice use for budding seeds - permablock + Seeds + Trellis=

That's what I use on my healer setup, except I use Leeching not Trellis

Yea I don't know, but think, Leeching would be a higher return on heals considering more people could be hitting you and the life steal.

WillhelmBlack · August 2017

*%#+ing Pigeon Cannon xD xD xD xD xD!!!!!!!!

Hatoreehanzo · August 2017

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

*%#+ing Pigeon Cannon xD xD xD xD xD!!!!!!!!

They don't seem threatening... until they poop on everything.

Tryxus · August 2017

Hatoreehanzo wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

BTW I found a VERY nice use for budding seeds - permablock + Seeds + Trellis=

That's what I use on my healer setup, except I use Leeching not Trellis

Yea I don't know, but think, Leeching would be a higher return on heals considering more people could be hitting you and the life steal.

Well I mostly heal with my Warden, so Leeching would be the better morph for me and the group I'm running with as anyone who targets me gets debuffed with Lifesteal.

I also prefer to run Budding Seeds since I like the burst heal on demand. Corrupting is a great skill tho, but I still prefer Budding on my back bar.

My back bar usually looks like this (also on offensive setup): Shimmering Shield, Ice Fortress, Leeching Vines, Budding Seeds, Invigorating Drain and the Enchanted Forest ulti

Waffennacht · August 2017

Hatoreehanzo wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

BTW I found a VERY nice use for budding seeds - permablock + Seeds + Trellis=

That's what I use on my healer setup, except I use Leeching not Trellis

Yea I don't know, but think, Leeching would be a higher return on heals considering more people could be hitting you and the life steal.

It's great for support and dealing damage, if you're not attacking you won't proc lifesteal. I'm Trellis is the more defensive version and vines is the more offensive one. It's a great ability. Potentially like 30k health for 2.5k mag (pre BS debuff)