recommended world set for stamblade ?

agaupig
agaupig
hi everyone,
im just jumping up to CP160
i didnt spend any skill point at crafts
the stamblade build i saw mostly are NMG and hunding's rage all crafting set
I know Springgan is a good choice of world set, but how about the other one to accomplish 5 + 5 + 2(monster set) slots?
any recommendation?
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  • WaltherCarraway
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    Spriggan.

    You said 'world set' right? I took it as 'Overland sets', so yea Spriggan...
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  • QUEZ420
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    Red mountain is a beast! I currently run 5 spriggans 5 red mountain. Wishhhhh I had the viper set but I cringe at the thought of farming fungrol grotto to death lol.
  • WaltherCarraway
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    agaupig wrote: »
    hi everyone,
    im just jumping up to CP160
    i didnt spend any skill point at crafts
    the stamblade build i saw mostly are NMG and hunding's rage all crafting set
    I know Springgan is a good choice of world set, but how about the other one to accomplish 5 + 5 + 2(monster set) slots?
    any recommendation?

    I'd assume you are a solo player.

    Put dual wield in your front bar, and one handed and shield on second bar.

    Why?

    Both dual wield and one handed and shield satisfy 5+5+2 allocation. Use dual wield to do damage for most occasions. Plus, you can queue up faster as a tank, that;S where your one handed and shield will take its place. (aka easier pledges to get a chance for decent monster shoulder part from the chest)
    Spriggan.

    You said 'world set' right? I took it as 'Overland sets', so yea Spriggan...

    This one, plus hunding's rage can provide decent damage already.

    I hope my answer helps.

    EDIT: words, by the way a set of hunding's rage is not that expensive now (all purple 5 pieces ~60k?) compare to what the price used to be.
    Edited by WaltherCarraway on August 16, 2017 3:12AM
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  • Betsararie
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    You can buy crafted sets just like you can overland sets.
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    QUEZ420 wrote: »
    Red mountain is a beast! I currently run 5 spriggans 5 red mountain. Wishhhhh I had the viper set but I cringe at the thought of farming fungrol grotto to death lol.

    Viper is still pretty appealing isn't it.

    Taking account of the red mountain, that set rarely proc'd during the time i was testing it... :(
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  • agaupig
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    Thx, I dont know where is easier to buy hunding rage set though...
    Unlike springgan, you can get or buy all springgan gears at Bangkorai zone...

    I have 5 pieses of springgan now, I think I will started to cllect red Mountain

    P.s what "viper " set means ? Viper sting?
    Edited by agaupig on August 16, 2017 3:26AM
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    Just get a crafted set since willows path is getting that fix :wink:
  • Betsararie
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    agaupig wrote: »
    Thx, I dont know where is easier to buy hunding rage set though...
    Unlike springgan, you can get or buy all springgan gears at Bangkorai zone...

    I have 5 pieses of springgan now, I think I will started to cllect red Mountain

    P.s what "viper " set means ? Viper sting?

    Buy Hundings at a guild trader it's very easy

    https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/ is your friend. :)
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    PvE or PvP?

    PvE I reccomend through thorough testing with my friend NMG/Twice-Fanged Snake (Trial but nSO isn't hard to get into) and Vicious Ophidian (absolute pain to get, but earlier the better) and for monster helm Kra'aghs is just really good.

    My friend with NMG, VO and Kra'aghs is geting 44k+ DPS parses on Trial bosses etc. Obviously CP-including with damage.
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  • agaupig
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    Thx, btw, I heard that selene is better than Karagh if looking for pure DPS
    Is it corrected?
    Yeah, I game mainly in pve zone

    P.s can nSO drop TF gears?, I thought must be vSO....
    Edited by agaupig on August 16, 2017 4:47AM
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    agaupig wrote: »
    Thx, btw, I heard that selene is better than Karagh if looking for pure DPS
    Is it corrected?
    Yeah, I game mainly in pve zone

    Kra'gh is definitely better at your current level.
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  • agaupig
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    Ok, can any one recommed a guild trader to buy NMG set?
    Thx again
    Edited by agaupig on August 16, 2017 5:00AM
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    So many stamblades here can do 40k + with common set , 60k + with bIS set and full cp

    But I rarely see over 2 SB in VTRIAL , I dont know why
    Edited by ccfeeling on August 16, 2017 5:22AM
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    So many stamblades here can do 40k + with common set , 60k + with bIS set and full cp

    But I rarely see over 2 SB in VTRIAL , I dont know why

    Cause it is hard to play and you don't get harness Magicka on a stam build.
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    Spriggan's and Hundings rage is probably the best set up.
    Kra'ghs is good for PvE. I still think Selenes is better in PVP.
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    agaupig wrote: »
    Thx, I dont know where is easier to buy hunding rage set though...
    Unlike springgan, you can get or buy all springgan gears at Bangkorai zone...

    I have 5 pieses of springgan now, I think I will started to cllect red Mountain

    P.s what "viper " set means ? Viper sting?
    I wouldn't recommend red mountain. As a stamnb you will be using surprise attack over flurry, so the procrate will be low on that. Just let someone craft you some hundings rage, and comebine it with spriggan. It's not that expensive if you don't go for absolute top traits. Another okay world set would be night mothers embrace, from deshaan. It's not the best though.

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    QUEZ420 wrote: »
    Red mountain is a beast! I currently run 5 spriggans 5 red mountain. Wishhhhh I had the viper set but I cringe at the thought of farming fungrol grotto to death lol.

    Viper is still pretty appealing isn't it.

    Taking account of the red mountain, that set rarely proc'd during the time i was testing it... :(

    Just use bloodthirst and it will proc constantly.
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    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
  • agaupig
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    QUEZ420 wrote: »
    Red mountain is a beast! I currently run 5 spriggans 5 red mountain. Wishhhhh I had the viper set but I cringe at the thought of farming fungrol grotto to death lol.

    Viper is still pretty appealing isn't it.

    Taking account of the red mountain, that set rarely proc'd during the time i was testing it... :(

    Just use bloodthirst and it will proc constantly.

    Why???? Bug??
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    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...

    No. Very no.

    For DW? Whirlwind. Unless Flurry/Rapid has gotten way better since the last time I used it (which is just this side of possible), it's not a good DPS option. If you don't have an easy source of Brutality, then Hidden Blade has some nice utility value.
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    agaupig wrote: »
    QUEZ420 wrote: »
    Red mountain is a beast! I currently run 5 spriggans 5 red mountain. Wishhhhh I had the viper set but I cringe at the thought of farming fungrol grotto to death lol.

    Viper is still pretty appealing isn't it.

    Taking account of the red mountain, that set rarely proc'd during the time i was testing it... :(

    Just use bloodthirst and it will proc constantly.

    Why???? Bug??

    IIRC, it can proc on a DoT if it's off a weapon ability. Cleave is another good option for that. Not sure about Acid Spray or Injection, though. I'd also assume that Lacerate would trigger it, but I've never tested that.

    That said, I thought this was a bug that was supposed to be fixed with yesterday's patch. But, I've only had about 12 minutes in game since Horns dropped.


    EDIT: No, wait, I get it, and I was remembering incorrectly. Because Bloodthirst is a channeled attack, each tick has a chance to proc red mountain. So, if you're going for an RM build, you can disregard my previous post as well.
    Edited by starkerealm on August 16, 2017 6:13AM
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    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
    Don't use mark target if you are doing dungeons. In overworld you might use it for the heal, but it's not needed in dungeons. Flurry is only good if you don't have a class spammable (which nb DOES) or maelstrom weapons. Surprise attack does more damage, applies the same debuff as mark target and on top of that gives you the shadow barrier passive which increases your resistances.

    Edited by Koensol on August 16, 2017 6:33AM
  • WildWilbur
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    ^This

    My Stamsorc for solo pve runs Hundings/Spriggans/Veli. Good enough for vet pledges. Wouldn't try vet trials with this setup though.
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    Koensol wrote: »
    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
    Don't use mark target if you are doing dungeons. In overworld you might use it for the heal, but it's not needed in dungeons. Flurry is only good if you don't have a class spammable (which nb DOES) or maelstrom weapons. Surprise attack does more damage, applies the same debuff as mark target and on top of that gives you the shadow barrier passive which increases your resistances.

    But reaper's mark gives major berserk. If flurry is his main spammable, then reapers mark might be better imo. It doesn't give better dps but I have to say it's more sustainable.
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    RavenSworn wrote: »
    Koensol wrote: »
    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
    Don't use mark target if you are doing dungeons. In overworld you might use it for the heal, but it's not needed in dungeons. Flurry is only good if you don't have a class spammable (which nb DOES) or maelstrom weapons. Surprise attack does more damage, applies the same debuff as mark target and on top of that gives you the shadow barrier passive which increases your resistances.

    But reaper's mark gives major berserk. If flurry is his main spammable, then reapers mark might be better imo. It doesn't give better dps but I have to say it's more sustainable.
    Mark is a waste of a skill, so no it's not more sustainable. It's only uses are in solo pve and in pvp. And besides, in dungeons the tank will run ransack/pierce armor to get the debuff anyway. Surprise attack in any shape and form is superior to flurry. If you are a NB without maelstrom weapons, you are gimping yourself if you use flurry.

  • agaupig
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    Koensol wrote: »
    RavenSworn wrote: »
    Koensol wrote: »
    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
    Don't use mark target if you are doing dungeons. In overworld you might use it for the heal, but it's not needed in dungeons. Flurry is only good if you don't have a class spammable (which nb DOES) or maelstrom weapons. Surprise attack does more damage, applies the same debuff as mark target and on top of that gives you the shadow barrier passive which increases your resistances.

    But reaper's mark gives major berserk. If flurry is his main spammable, then reapers mark might be better imo. It doesn't give better dps but I have to say it's more sustainable.
    Mark is a waste of a skill, so no it's not more sustainable. It's only uses are in solo pve and in pvp. And besides, in dungeons the tank will run ransack/pierce armor to get the debuff anyway. Surprise attack in any shape and form is superior to flurry. If you are a NB without , you maelstrom weapons gimping yourself if you use flurry.

    Yeah, the tank will use major fracture skill debuff, that's the reason I didnt use surprise attack, I thought major fracture can not be stacked.
    Am I wrong?? The tank fracture the enemy and you can proc surprise attack to get more fracture??

    And what is maelstrom weapon? Can you example?
    Edited by agaupig on August 16, 2017 7:28AM
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Koensol wrote: »
    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
    Don't use mark target if you are doing dungeons. In overworld you might use it for the heal, but it's not needed in dungeons. Flurry is only good if you don't have a class spammable (which nb DOES) or maelstrom weapons. Surprise attack does more damage, applies the same debuff as mark target and on top of that gives you the shadow barrier passive which increases your resistances.

    There's no point in running Red Mountain if you dont use the skills to proc it often.

    For stamNB there are better sets ofc, but on a stamDK it can be nice for example.
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  • Koensol
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    Koensol wrote: »
    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
    Don't use mark target if you are doing dungeons. In overworld you might use it for the heal, but it's not needed in dungeons. Flurry is only good if you don't have a class spammable (which nb DOES) or maelstrom weapons. Surprise attack does more damage, applies the same debuff as mark target and on top of that gives you the shadow barrier passive which increases your resistances.

    There's no point in running Red Mountain if you dont use the skills to proc it often.

    For stamNB there are better sets ofc, but on a stamDK it can be nice for example.
    Uhm... which is exactly what I said in an earlier post ;) Red mountain is not good on NB, because NBs are better off using surprise attack.
    agaupig wrote: »
    Koensol wrote: »
    RavenSworn wrote: »
    Koensol wrote: »
    agaupig wrote: »
    Oh.... I use mark target + flurry rather than surprise attack!
    So I choose wrong skill? I thought rapid strike is my main DPS skill...
    Don't use mark target if you are doing dungeons. In overworld you might use it for the heal, but it's not needed in dungeons. Flurry is only good if you don't have a class spammable (which nb DOES) or maelstrom weapons. Surprise attack does more damage, applies the same debuff as mark target and on top of that gives you the shadow barrier passive which increases your resistances.

    But reaper's mark gives major berserk. If flurry is his main spammable, then reapers mark might be better imo. It doesn't give better dps but I have to say it's more sustainable.
    Mark is a waste of a skill, so no it's not more sustainable. It's only uses are in solo pve and in pvp. And besides, in dungeons the tank will run ransack/pierce armor to get the debuff anyway. Surprise attack in any shape and form is superior to flurry. If you are a NB without , you maelstrom weapons gimping yourself if you use flurry.

    Yeah, the tank will use major fracture skill debuff, that's the reason I didnt use surprise attack, I thought major fracture can not be stacked.
    Am I wrong?? The tank fracture the enemy and you can proc surprise attack to get more fracture??

    And what is maelstrom weapon? Can you example?
    Yes, but surprise attack still does more damage than flurry and gives you major major resolve and major ward for more survivability. Plus it increases your health with the dark vigor passive. And on some adds it can be nice to apply the debuff for yourself. But in any case, mark target is useless and a wasted slot in dungeons.

    Maelstrom weapons are weapons dropped in Veteran Maelstrom Arena. This is the hardest solo content in the game. The maelstrom daggers and axes increases damage on the next single target dot from using flurry. But don't expect to complete vMA and get these weapons anytime soon until you become really good at your class. Then still you have to be lucky with RNG drops.

    Edited by Koensol on August 16, 2017 8:35AM
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