magDK: 33k ST dps with my magDK on a 6 million dummy (bubbles for moondancer synergies, lightning wall from 3rd Person for whipprocs). Without out of balance effects and whipprocs due to lightning wall and a more heavy attack rota it should be around 30k dps. No vMA staff though. A friend (with vMA staff) and a perfect rotation can get up to 40k, so there is room to improve.

magSorc: somewhere between 25k to 30k ST dps on a target dummy (eledrain set by friend). There is much room to improve but I fecking hate to play a Sorc nowadays with its utter boring heavy attack rota. Still enough for 4-man-stuff though, where I can watch 30k+ scores with some buffs and debuffs and a warhorn here and there.

magNB: same es Sorc (eledrain set). As my DK is my raidchar I just play my NB too seldom. Still enough for 4-man-stuff though, where I can watch 30k+ scores with some buffs and debuffs and a warhorn here and there.

magTemplar: no idea, stopped playing him as DD, but have fun as Templar tank in 4-man-stuff now.

magWarden: Don't ask me. I was completey underwhelmed after a few vet instances and just play him as a tank now (which is really nice to play and efficient).

Stamblade: my current favorite, stamina builds are such a fun now. Around 30k ST (Kragh + NMG + Vicious Serpent) with some shards or heal bubbles from a friend on a 3 million dummy, so that I can spare some heavy attacks. I don't use Jeckl's fingerbreaking skill setup though, I use a lighter variant of that.

DPS is - besides proper reapplying dots - based mostly on correct and strict light/heavy attack weaving. If you do that you already will get a huge dps increase even if you don't always hit the perfect time window for an animation cancel effect.

Well, the secret to an efficient rotation is just to reapply your DOT's in time and keep your buffs up. If you do that it's almost impossible to be under 20K. The rest is just proper weaving. On stamina you can weave just heavy attacks with your DW bar with skills and light attacks between your bow bar skills. You will stay almost at full resources only with dropped pots if you have ~60 points in tenacity, even if your recovery is <1K.

20k high elf magicka sorc, 5 necro, 3 infaliable, 2 infernal guardian,

wall of elements, liquid lightning, surge, familiar, hardened ward, mage light and bound armour,

literally the easiest 20k dps,
50k+ magicka.

Currently sitting on 550CP

My dearest main - magsorc with no-pet in Julianos. Yes, I'm that lazy



Hitting 30k consistently if I don't slack.

My new fiery boy fairs worse, even though he has vMA inferno sharpened staff and all BiS in general Though he doesn't have Undaunted leveled yet. I'm working on it and getting used to magDK in general. For now, it's like this:

20k mag warden 5 shackle 5 necro 1 Groth

Your 15k dps is definitely not top-notch, but its not downright bad either. if you're soloing on a training dummy, everything above 20k is really good.

I know several ppl claiming to do 30-40k self-buffed and I asked several of them how they managed that. Most get buffs from other group members (ele drain, orbs, lighting wall on the target etc etc.). Some claim to manage that kind of damage totally on their own but were never are able to demonstrate.

If you look at group dungeons, good DDs come up to 30k and sometimes 35k dps in boss fights, but thats with group buffs and boss debuffs included ofc and has to be lowered correspondingly.

On my MagDK I'm hitting 37k consistently with a high of 38.5k - thats with 5 Burning Spellweave, 2 Grothdarr, 4 Infal (front bar w/ inferno staff) and just a crafted staff on the back bar - I don't have vMA staves yet.

Thats also with ele drain and lightning wall for whip procs, and using just 1 ulti.


Your light attacks weaves definitely make up a huge portion of your DPS, andyou should really be practicing getting them in between all of your skills.

Wish i could see the uptimes of all my skills in raid group situations, but console is still step behind in that regard

ThatAlaskanDude wrote: »

cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »

The game population is not represented by this forum though. These are more dedicated players. I'd bet most players are below your range.

Even so I still want to deal more damage. Seeing all these feedback certainly show I have a ways to go if I want to do vet trials.

I'm worse than most. The majority of my characters, according to LUI Extended, do between 6 and 12k DPS average. I can get over 20k on multiple targets/groups with certain skills (DW line). I'll never get much higher because I don't follow builds. I've tried and it just doesn't feel right. I'm here to have fun. When it feels more like work than fun, there's not much point in playing. It also means dungeons will always feel a bit challenging, at least as far as bosses go

I've recently started playing again on my stamplar and so far it's doing great. Solo test on dummy w/o major breech -


In dungeons, I can easily do 40-45k+. Yet to be tested in trials as I main a Tank and it's not easy for me to go DPS

5TFS+5 WM+2Kragh (and 200+ ping)

My mag sorc is highest at 35k. Necro/IA/Ilambris vMA sharpened lightning back bar and random sharpened (go back and forth between fire and lightning) staff front bar. If I go dual lightning I use a flame enchant to proc fire damage for Ilambris.

Recast your DoTs as they're expiring. Too early or too late and you're losing damage. Weave a light or heavy attack before every skill. If you weave properly it's basically free damage because you can cast only one skill for approximately every one second. Know when to heavy attack and don't wait until you're out of resources to heavy attack, do it preemptively.

My rotation: Liquid Lighning, Wall of Elements, Daedric Prey, Volatile Familiar (cancel with a bar swap), 4x Force Pulse (last Force Pulse cancel with a bar swap, when done correctly it will look kind of like it's coming out of your hip)

It's got to be the easiest rotation out there. Light attack between each skill. If you're testing solo apply Elemental Drain to the dummy to start and then every third rotation replace one Force Pulse with Elemental Drain. To keep your resources up replace 2x Force Pulse with a heavy attack when needed. I drop a destro ult to start and a Meteor when it comes up, which will take place of a Force Pulse. When you get to 20% replace Force Pulse with Endless Fury/Mage's Wrath, but you'll still want to keep up your DoTs if they will go through most of their duration. It's a timing thing and knowing how much damage you're doing. If you do it right you won't be heavy attacking during execute and you'll just about be out of magicka as you're finishing.

If you want to get better I'd advise you to watch Alcast or someone else that does a parse on their build videos. If they pull up combat metrics make note of their most damaging skills. If it's a DoT you'll know it's important to keep that DoT up at all times with out overcasting. For most (all?) stam builds Endless Hail does the most damage at about 20% of your damage if you have a vMA bow, probably about 15% without, provided you have a solid rotation. Watch some videos on animation canceling, again I recommend Alcast. He has a few and they're definitely worth watching if you're serious about getting better.

Self buffed on the dummy I get around 42k on stamina Nightblade and 38k on stamina Dragonknight.