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Why if I get bounty on X alliance guards of another alliance ask me to pay my bounty to them?
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Why if I commit crime in, let's say, Stonefalls (EP zone) and get bounty there, the guards from any city in AD or DC zones can ask for that money?
So, I own money to one alliance but the others can claim that gold?
I find this very odd.
So, I own money to one alliance but the others can claim that gold?
I find this very odd.
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chuck-18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭This is one of those gameplay mechanics that ultimately must trump lore. If bounties were faction-specific, you could just zone-hop anytime you got a bounty and continue along your merry way. Stealing is supposed to come with risk, and unstoppable psychic guards are the answer to that in ESO.
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✭✭✭✭✭It is a scheme to make the local guild hall gold. They don't have any jurisdiction but what can you do other than run across a lake and hide or pay up?and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Ulo✭✭✭✭Gaemplay over logic, shouldn't happen but i can understand why it does. If you were gonna change it you would also probablly have to consider regions that don't fall into any of the 3 alliances like Hew's Bane and The gold Coast and even then why should i guard in Shadowfen know that you have a bounty in The Rift just because they are both part of The Ebonheart Pact, as an example. Plenty of problems for somthing thats prety minor. Leave the system as it is, far from sensical, but better then the alternatives and game has much bigger issues to deal with anyway.Edited by Ulo on August 5, 2017 11:29PM1
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✭✭✭✭✭It's been this way ever since Justice System was released. It's kind of iffy now, but it made Zero sense before One Tamriel, since the other Alliance Zones before One Tamriel were supposed to be in an "alternate reality."
(Although now it's just not clear what the deal is with the other Alliance Zone. The references to it being an alternate reality are still there, but there are also plenty of references to it all being one reality. Pretty sloppy for a game whose cohesive world and storytelling is its greatest strength.)"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
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✭✭✭✭If you go to Germany and rob/kill ppl, you think french police should not arest you once you enter France?0 -
Blacksmoke✭✭✭✭✭Gameplay wise I get it otherwise you can just murder and steal to your hearts content and change zone to go to banks and stuff like that but immersive/lore wise it doesnt make sense especially cross alliance I mean I doubt the share an uodate of what criminals are around mid warChampion point: 645CharactersGanlian Stormian - AD - Dungeon healer - Templar - CrafterOndaril Stormian - AD - Trail DPS - SorcererShagrod gro-Bolmog - AD - PVP - Dragonknight0 -
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And it's been bugging me since way back, too.
I mean - it's not like they haz Teri Pratchett's "Clacks" system in game, to communicate.
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✭✭✭✭✭For the same reason why a DC character is not attacked on sight inside AD capital for being a member of enemy alliance.
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS really missed a huge RP aspect when they did bounty the way it is. With a little coding, you could be a hero in one alliance and an outlaw in another.2 -
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✭✭✭The judicial system in all TES games i've played has been terrible. Skyrim was probably the worst of the worst in that respect. Murder an entire village/settlement, no real biggy in the grand scheme of things, but hit or kill a chicken ...1 -
SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭What the Allainces dont tell us is they are secretly in cohoots, and have a reciprical agreement between each other, just like the European Union.
You can have a warrant served for your arrest in one allaince area but be appreheneded in another.
they should start the welfare payments too to compensate tbfh.Breakfast KingPS4 EU0 -
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✭Why if I commit crime in, let's say, Stonefalls (EP zone) and get bounty there, the guards from any city in AD or DC zones can ask for that money?
So, I own money to one alliance but the others can claim that gold?
I find this very odd.
They keep ledgers and have a bounty reparations program where they honor each others ledger's claims on criminal apprehension. Even in times of war there is still diplomacy. don't worry, your criminal acts don't amount to treason when you are caught in another alliance's borders, your gold doesn't fund their "war effort".“Whatever.”
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✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »The judicial system in all TES games i've played has been terrible. Skyrim was probably the worst of the worst in that respect. Murder an entire village/settlement, no real biggy in the grand scheme of things, but hit or kill a chicken ...
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The_Smilemeister✭✭✭✭✭If you go to Germany and rob/kill ppl, you think french police should not arest you once you enter France?
France and Germany aren't at war, dumb dumb! Both having signed various treaties and being in the European Union mean that both countries can exchange intelligence and records in regards to a criminal and their activities. This is why the French would happily arrest a criminal from Germany and vice versa despite not having committed a felony in the country they've entered.
Just to add more salt to the wound, in Skyrim, a criminal can commit a crime in one hold and yet still be allowed to walk free in another (unless x hold makes a request to y hold which is accepted). This is because each hold tracks its crime independently. Neither of these holds belong to another province, they all belong to Skyrim. Now if different parts of the same province (regardless of whether it is split into one faction's control or another, or unified by one of the factions such is the case in TES: V) track their own criminals independently, why is it a surprise when entire different sovereign states do it too, such is the case in ESO?
Now let's have a look at the situation in Tamriel during the Alliance War. AD, DC, EP, and the remnants of the Empire are all at war. With the exception of the rare occasion when any two sides may have to compromise and work together to achieve a common goal, there are no treaties and neither are in a political union. Henceforth the current criminal system is arbitrary since there's little insensitive for any side to work together to track each other's criminals. Why would a guard in Elden Root (AD), Kvatch (Imperial), or Windhelm (EP) try to arrest a criminal from Evermore (DC) when each of the factions they belong to are all at war with one another and will almost certainly not be exchanging criminal records and other intelligence?1 -
Ozzymandius✭✭If you have a bounty and go to Hollow city via a wayshrine then no one challenges you and you can wait out your bounty there. Used it a couple of times when I picked up a bounty pickpocketing near the Elden root wayshrine.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The simplest answer is to assume that, regardless of what colours they're wearing, the Guards all belong to a transprovincial guild, like the Mages Guild or Fighters Guild. While they swear fealty to the local government, the pursuit of justice transcends regional borders.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Iink✭✭✭✭If you go to Germany and rob/kill ppl, you think french police should not arest you once you enter France?
Not if they were at war.
The AD had troops go into EP and kill a bunch of Argonian babies in Shadowfen during a questline. It's basically a fact that other factions would be happy to hear of players committing mass murder in their enemy factions.0 -
Iink✭✭✭✭SquareSausage wrote: »What the Allainces dont tell us is they are secretly in cohoots, and have a reciprical agreement between each other, just like the European Union.
You can have a warrant served for your arrest in one allaince area but be appreheneded in another.
they should start the welfare payments too to compensate tbfh.
AD troops can mass murder baby Argonians in the EP Shadowfen quest line.
AD guards will arrest an EP player for mass murdering EP NPCs.
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