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Character idea. Feasibility?

thewaywardone
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I'm considering making a character who is a loner assassin.

The idea is to create a character who is an assassin (so I would be doing the Brotherhood questlines and the Thieves Guild questlines). She has zero interest in politics and could give two coppers as to whether or not Tamriel gets overrun because as far as her cynical mind is concerned, one overlord is pretty much like any other whether they're a king, a queen an emperor or evil demonic monster-type.

Anyway! My idea is that she does no quests at all. She explores, hunts down skyshards, she opens as many treasure chests as she can and she does bounties/crafter dailies as her only means of experience gain. On slow days, she murders villages... You know, an all around girl-next-door. :wink:

But realistically how viable is this? I understand leveling will be painfully slow, but I'm wondering if it's even possible to max out CPs (eventually) on a character who effectively does no hunting and no questing.

Note: I understand this character will not really be viable for end-game or even delves -- she'll be most interesting from a RP perspective, I think.

Anyway, has anyone tried this sort of character? If so, how bad was the frustration level?
PC/NA - Daytime player - Obnoxiously Casual Player - PVE/RP
  • Azuramoonstar
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    as a rp'er anything is viable. But this sort of leveling can be tedious now a days (mobs don't have the exp they once had).

    If you did this in ff11, sure as soloing though hard, was viable. And quests didn't give you exp. I would suggest doing quests that involve killing an npc at least. Which is what assassins do. Lore reason: you need food and need to have a thrill of a hunt.

    I'm still learning the game, but i'm an mmo vet. All I can say is try it out if it work, cool :) If not live and learn.
    Long time mmo player: 2004-[current year]
    Long time Elder scrolls player: Xbox launch morrowind.
    Follower of the dawn and dusk, keeper of the moon and star.
  • davey1107
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    First question: is this your first/primary character, or do you have others on your account? Will there be others? I ask because this will greatly affect how you go about earning Champion Points.

    Now, as to your idea. I think it can work great. I think you could conceivably level to 50 and earn CPs well under such a character. It might take a little planning. Some tips:

    Class and race: I think this character has to be a nightblade. Cloak is just too important for your role play idea to accept the other classes' invisibility mechanisms. A magblade or a stamblade would work, although I find stamblades to feel more like assassins and magblades to feel like dark sorcerers. But either works. Khajiit, wood elves and red guards make good stamblades. Altmer, bretons or dunmer work for magic. But you can mix up race since you aren't wanting to max the character.

    Skill points: by giving up the faction quests, you're foregoing 75 skill points. However, with One Tamriel this is less of an issue. Because you can go anywhere, there are plenty of shard skill points. When I roll a new toon now, I don't quest. I get the shard points, and usually this is enough to have them fill out their fighting trees plus the basics in crafting. (They can spend 10 points in, say, smith to make rubedite and do highest level writs. But it'd be tough to be a master crafter and spend on all the passives without quest skill points). It will also really help if you have access to all the DLC shards.

    Leveling to 50: this could go as fast as everyone else or very slow depending on how you approach it. If your toon goes on murderous delve rampages (and what assassin wouldn't?), killing everything and clearing the boss...then maybe also does dolmens and later undaunted, you can level to 50 as fast or faster than questing. If you cloak through delves, then yeah, it's gonna be a slow grind.

    CPs: the same rule applies. There are plenty of ways to earn XP, and honestly quests aren't the most efficient. If your assassin kills a lot of things while she explores, then you'll earn CPs just fine.

    Routes: the play style you're describing isn't far off how many vet players approach a new character, especially a nightblade. Having run the quests three or four times, there's NO WAY I'm playing them again on character #11...ugh. So I run them on the sort of dailies you mention. For a while on my newest nightblade I'd do writs, then run the dark Brotherhood daily, the kvatch world boss daily, a thieves guild repeatable then the thieves guild heist. I can push out all of this in under an hour, which is a lot of xp. Routes like this will make it possible to max out your CPs...then you might want to supplement with some psijic dungeon runs every once in a while.

    Frankly, if you aren't stressed about getting to vet or getting to 630 champion points, then I think your character idea will be a lot LESS frustrating than people who demand best in slot max gear. Those guys end up running the same dungeon 135 times to earn their sharpened dagger of who-gives-a-flip. When you aren't doing that you can spend a lot more enjoyable time just wandering and playing how you like.
  • Azuramoonstar
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    Routes: the play style you're describing isn't far off how many vet players approach a new character, especially a nightblade. Having run the quests three or four times, there's NO WAY I'm playing them again on character #11...ugh. \

    this cought my eye and I had to giggle. :)

    I had 75 characters in ff11 5 of which saw max level, and 17 characters in ff14(quest to exp game) 10 saw max level.

    not to mention playing LOZ Oot 30 times. What is wrong with replying? I see more and more complaints about repeating content.
    Long time mmo player: 2004-[current year]
    Long time Elder scrolls player: Xbox launch morrowind.
    Follower of the dawn and dusk, keeper of the moon and star.
  • Ceridwynne
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    That is kinda how I leveled my nightblade. It was painfully slow but I have no regrets. But I did already have a champion level character. Killing npcs gives very little xp so only focusing on them would take a long time.

    I did DB and Thieves guild quests/dailies/repeatables for most of the leveling. I also grabbed skyshards and did a couple of the delve quests. I would suggest using one skill bar to fight and the other bar just to level up other skills that you switch to when turning in these quests.

    I am currently low on skill points on this character though so I am going to run her through all the main quests for the skill points, but I'm not going to consider that part of her story.

    She is the only character with the treasure hunter passive and I use her for survey/treasure map farming, stealing, and pick-pocketing.
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    You can level very fast killing innocent NPCs, if you don't mind accruing high bounty.
  • Sunah
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    Id say in your travels, speak to random quest givers and see what they want. Sometimes they quest involve some murder or some greedy plot. May as well help them help you, ya know?
  • davey1107
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    @Azuramoonstar I was a FFX kid, so yeah, some days I'm like "wait, in ESO there's no Calm Lands where I have to trap seven specimens of every single creature by using a special trap weapon for themkill shot? This game is easy!" Lol.

    I do replay a lot of the quests, I'm just glad I'm not forced to in order to proceed on a character. Then I can wait until I want/need points or whatever,,then pick which quests to replay. Like I haven't played D.C. In a while and was considering running my Warden through those to remember what was going on.
  • Azuramoonstar
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    @Azuramoonstar I was a FFX kid, so yeah, some days I'm like "wait, in ESO there's no Calm Lands where I have to trap seven specimens of every single creature by using a special trap weapon for themkill shot? This game is easy!" Lol.

    I do replay a lot of the quests, I'm just glad I'm not forced to in order to proceed on a character. Then I can wait until I want/need points or whatever,,then pick which quests to replay. Like I haven't played D.C. In a while and was considering running my Warden through those to remember what was going on.

    its not just you. (not saying it was bad to complain, or being negative) I just see it often in mmo, ff14 community is pretty bad with it, and is a big reason I quit. New players were getting screwed over their first time because someone in the group would say "hey i done this 1243556743535 times, i want a speed run" then leave if the group doesn't or leave if the groups wipes because new players unable to handle speed running.

    I used to tank in ff14.. my first time tanking an endgame dungeon for a quest was met with such a person I was told i was a was better off a stain on the bed sheets" and ran ahead to more or less solo the dungeon. (not something do-able in ff14) I pretty much came here so i can just relax and play with out worry about getting told off by some random jerk with a chip on their shoulder.

    sorry for off topic, just replying why i made the comment. Keep the convo going :)
    Long time mmo player: 2004-[current year]
    Long time Elder scrolls player: Xbox launch morrowind.
    Follower of the dawn and dusk, keeper of the moon and star.
  • thewaywardone
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    Ceridwynne wrote: »
    That is kinda how I leveled my nightblade. It was painfully slow but I have no regrets. But I did already have a champion level character. Killing npcs gives very little xp so only focusing on them would take a long time.

    I did DB and Thieves guild quests/dailies/repeatables for most of the leveling. I also grabbed skyshards and did a couple of the delve quests. I would suggest using one skill bar to fight and the other bar just to level up other skills that you switch to when turning in these quests.

    I am currently low on skill points on this character though so I am going to run her through all the main quests for the skill points, but I'm not going to consider that part of her story.

    She is the only character with the treasure hunter passive and I use her for survey/treasure map farming, stealing, and pick-pocketing.

    Pretty much exactly what I'm thinking. If your NA PC megaserver, please feel free to friend me. Would love to meet another stabby type. :)
    PC/NA - Daytime player - Obnoxiously Casual Player - PVE/RP
  • Ceridwynne
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    Pretty much exactly what I'm thinking. If your NA PC megaserver, please feel free to friend me. Would love to meet another stabby type. :)

    I'm XBox NA, but good luck with your hunting!
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