It is time to nerf mag sorcs

Runschei · August 2017

It is time to buff the others.

Arizona_Steve · August 2017

Runschei wrote: »

It is time to buff the others.

This. I am so sick of the nerfing. My main character has been rendered useless as he hits like a wet noodle and dies in two hits. So I went MagSorc in order to enjoy the game again.

Runschei · August 2017

Arizona_Steve wrote: »

Runschei wrote: »

It is time to buff the others.

This. I am so sick of the nerfing. My main character has been rendered useless as he hits like a wet noodle and dies in two hits. So I went MagSorc in order to enjoy the game again.

Aye. ZOS needs to stop nerfing and just buff stuff instead. This is turning into Elder Scrolls Online: Nerfs Unlimited

zZzleepyhead · August 2017

If you want anyone to take you serious you should specify what needs to be nerfed and why there are no counters for it or why present counters aren't sufficient enough.

Are you talking about non-CP or CP?

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Drakkdjinn · August 2017

zZzleepyhead wrote: »

If you want anyone to take you serious you should specify what needs to be nerfed and why there are no counters for it or why present counters aren't sufficient enough.

Are you talking about non-CP or CP?

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Not really at this point -- this is Elder Sorcs Online; reasons are self-explanatory for anyone who's actually played the game a fair bit.

Strider_Roshin · August 2017

POps75p wrote: »

*** NO, no more nerf? live with it you PVP ass holes

Lol

BlazingDynamo · August 2017

Remember that one patch when magic sorcs sucked?

zZzleepyhead · August 2017

zZzleepyhead wrote: »

If you want anyone to take you serious you should specify what needs to be nerfed and why there are no counters for it or why present counters aren't sufficient enough.

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Drakkdjinn wrote: »

zZzleepyhead wrote: »

If you want anyone to take you serious you should specify what needs to be nerfed and why there are no counters for it or why present counters aren't sufficient enough.

Are you talking about non-CP or CP?

Low quality thread

Not really at this point -- this is Elder Sorcs Online; reasons are self-explanatory for anyone who's actually played the game a fair bit.

No, you can present a case or get out. Complaining about something as vague as an entire class in general discussion is hardly grounds for appropriate discussion on balancing game mechanics.

Strider_Roshin · August 2017

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

Remember that one patch when magic sorcs sucked?

Nope.

andreasranasen · August 2017

Is the forums full of SCRUBS or what?

phairdon · August 2017

After sorcs are nerfed again, it will be nerf templar time, again.

MasterSpatula · August 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Best ultimates! Lmfao

Now that's a Good one!

Ah, but OP said, "Best Ultimates at their disposal," which is technically true, since the best Ults for Sorc are non-class.

Sneaky-Snurr · August 2017

Don't mind me, just cloaking through observing this heated discussion.

Caligamy_ESO · August 2017

Nerf Cryodil, for too long it has damaged the fun and gameplay of every single PVE player in the game. I just automatically assume anyone who authors a post like this has never played a Sorc in Cryodil and been spammed with 1 or 2 CC's to deplete their stamina.

Nope, it wasn't a typo..

FloppyTouch · August 2017

All the salty sorcs come to defend their op class.

Sorcs need to be brought down a bit

H3rBie · August 2017

Every time someone looses against a sorc a new nerf sorc thread is opend.. maybe zos should open a nerf sorc forum so the fustrated nerf sorc fraction has its own place..

Sorc is ok now..

MasterSpatula · August 2017

FloppyTouch wrote: »

All the salty sorcs come to defend their op class.

Sorcs need to be brought down a bit

And the term "salty" has officially reached peak uselessness.

SanTii.92 · August 2017

Sorcs are ez.

NyassaV · August 2017

Magdalina wrote: »

...is this some Day of Sorc Nerfage this week or something? Usually we get a thread a week, now it seems like 3 a day at least. Perhaps we need a dedicated forum section, what do you think? "Nerf rage" section, subcategories: "nerf sorc"(obvious winner), "nerf nb"(second winner probably), "nerf templar" and "nerf dk" so no one feels left out. Oh forgot "Nerf warden".

I'm hoping you're listing all that stuff sarcastically to demonstrate how silly the "nerf sorc" threads are getting but I have my suspicions...

You see these a lot for a reason

Feanor · August 2017

Actually my Grandma plays a Red Mountain/Torugs/Selene Oblivion and bleed stacking stamDK. She laughs at Sorcs.

Unfadingsilence · August 2017

Just make Shields take critical damage GG

Beardimus · August 2017

Welcome to the game, I see you are new here.. FYI there is no auction house either..

Can't be bothered battling all the points you are wrong on OP, but Ultimates is a funny one.

So Overload, Storm Atronach are the best in the game.are they? Negate is cool but I think you will find.Meteor and EOTS and often First choice for most content, and they ain't a Sorc Ultimate..

GeorgeBlack · August 2017

Everybody is saying magsorc ain't OP and proceed to describe how an anti magsorc build can kill them, meaning that every player in Cyrodiil needs to run anti magsorc and stop complaining inforums.

I'm sry but does magsorc need to run:
anti stamdk
anti stamNB
anti stamTemp
anti stamDen
anti magTemp
anti magNB
anti magDK
anti magDen

in order to be the winner most of the times in 1v1?
Isn't magsorc the strongest element when the Crown goes through the gates?

Templars have been hit with severe nerfs, NBs have a cloak problem since forever, stamDKs have been nerfed numerous times, warden is a joke, not going there (trash class? OP class? I'll leave you to react to that. Your silence will be funny)
and sorc is coming clean through the other side in every update.
Yep it must be hilarious that people love their classes to ask from Zos balance.

Here's forums reaction to nerf sorc topics. "Ridicule. L2P"
Here's forums reactions to other classes buff request. "How about no? L2P"

Feanor · August 2017

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Everybody is saying magsorc ain't OP and proceed to describe how an anti magsorc build can kill them, meaning that every player in Cyrodiil needs to run anti magsorc and stop complaining inforums.

I'm sry but does magsorc need to run:
anti stamdk
anti stamNB
anti stamTemp
anti stamDen
anti magTemp
anti magNB
anti magDK
anti magDen

in order to be the winner most of the times in 1v1?
Isn't magsorc the strongest element when the Crown goes through the gates?

Templars have been hit with severe nerfs, NBs have a cloak problem since forever, stamDKs have been nerfed numerous times, warden is a joke, not going there (trash class? OP class? I'll leave you to react to that. Your silence will be funny)
and sorc is coming clean through the other side in every update.
Yep it must be hilarious that people love their classes to ask from Zos balance.

Here's forums reaction to nerf sorc topics. "Ridicule. L2P"
Here's forums reactions to other classes buff request. "How about no? L2P"

I'm pretty sure people need to run only the anti-noob setup...kills 85% of Cyrodiil.

RainfeatherUK · August 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

Is the forums full of SCRUBS or what?

You have to ask? Tut tut.

I doubt these morons can handle a single bar of buttons, where only two of five are active abilities. Its precisely why ZoS should avoid listening to whinging cry babies like this and focus on metric data.

Its not difficult blowing up sorcs. Hell if you are close the to the level of Sypher or Fengrush, you can kill off several in one go 1vX and thats 'occasionally' doable, even if they are of a decent skill level. Just using skill/los/overextension.

People want any excuse to cry when they are killed or cant be bothered to learn. Ignorant carebears are precisely why the game has become 'Nerfs Unlimited' and other classes should certainly be raised instead - as this current strategy is just rendering classes/skills and gear sets boring/redundant and most importantly 'un-fun' to play.

Quit with the nerf threads already. DLC is basically around the corner, try learning some discipline and patience. If you even understand those words ofcourse.

Flameheart · August 2017

ParaNostram wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

In a 1v1 scenario they are in an advantage. That's not much of a discussion.

With the next patch we'll see 55k mag shield stacking sorcs with shadowrend just wreking everything becouse of their 11k spammable shields.

Good luck with that

With Torag's pact :-)

*Torug's Pact

All will wear it, be it magicka or stamina builds, so it won't change much concerning the Sorc thing except that ZOS will kill the own game by abolishing gear and build diversity :-)

MasterSpatula · August 2017

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Here's forums reactions to other classes buff request. "How about no? L2P"

You're seeing that because you want/expect to see that. Plenty of Sorc players acknowledge the other classes' problems. I would even go so far as to say that most Sorc players play at least one other class (and many play all classes), so they also have an interest in improving the other classes.

I'd like to improve the AoEs and survivability of my Stamblade. I'm still genuinely angry that Rushed Ceremony is now a cone effect, which really hit hard the specialness of this ability. My DK... well, he's a tank, so I consider him to be in decent shape, but I'm a little ignorant of what DPS DKs need. All three need work to be able to manage resources as well as my MagSorc does. I don't have a Warden, so I'm also ignorant of its needs.

None of that means I want my MagSorc to become less fun to play. And all these rage threads? That's exactly what you're asking for. You wanna ruin my fun on one of my characters. I don't want to ruin yours. I'd like to see your fun increased. I'd like to see the classes all be roughly as capable and roughly as fun. I have zero interest in harming anyone else's enjoyment of the game. From where I sit, it sure looks like you can't, in honesty, say the same.

Beardimus · August 2017

@GeorgeBlack clearly you don't play much PvP. Wardens kick ass in Non-CP, try a BG at some point.

Sorcs had nerfs every patch last year and most are now pigeon holed into a few remaining setups that work. DW has been beaten on every patch for Mag users in general

You know Morrowind when you all lost your mind over resource cost increases? Well try shield stacking now, 3 shields costs a huge amount that's impossible to sustain for many rotations now and still dosh out damage. All other armour types have free passive protection. Sorcs where hit hardest by resource increases

Check the set changes, mainly Sorc sets getting nerfed.

Ultimate slashed to 500. ONLY sorcs Impacted.

Do sorcs have to beat other classes with special tactics? 100% YES and the easiest class to take on is other sorcs. CC them and dead in seconds

Everyone needs an Anti gank solution we need high Pen to handle the heavy armor meta rubbish

I'm sorry sir but your points above all scream.L2P which is the answer if you are taking a Sorc head on you are doing it wrong.

Perhaps you would prefer L2CaS learn to counter a Sorc. Over L2P

Lastly I challenge all the Sorc haters to just roll one, try it for a month. Send us the videos how you stormed to Emp, and won all your BG's and Duels with your god mode. No, I didn't think so

Freecry · August 2017

I would rather hear nerf lag, nerf infinite loading, nerf CE, nerf exploit and macros than these nerfs for sets or classes

FloppyTouch · August 2017

Kind of reminds me of all the nerf mdk post from 2014 where everyone that played one defending the hell out of it. Didn't change the fact mdk was OP and needed a nerf. Now or for most of the game sorcs are way over preforming and sorc players are defending the hell out of it.