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MagNB bombing and you
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I've been trying to do this again after a long 9 month break form ESO and my MagNB and I have to say, I've heard people say that its easy to bomb again ... but it seems that unless you are in a group ala certain Guilds stacking ults, you are not bombing anyone anymore
I've heard that Tether bombing is back again but, again, its nowhere near what it used to be? and destro ulti bombing w/o a group is just killing bad players who don't know what it is and can't counter it
I thought it was my CP or whatever, but its not, I've been practicing and trying with both EP and AD on PC NA and the ammounts of healing going out of some of these healers (props to them) is just insane
this is classic, VD + alchemist + willpower and I've replaced willpwer with Grothdar, undaunted 5+1+1, I've even tried this with Necro and Alchemist with over 50k magicka and the results are the same
so all these videos I see seems like only if there is someone else pushing in or if the opponents are really new?
I've heard that Tether bombing is back again but, again, its nowhere near what it used to be? and destro ulti bombing w/o a group is just killing bad players who don't know what it is and can't counter it
I thought it was my CP or whatever, but its not, I've been practicing and trying with both EP and AD on PC NA and the ammounts of healing going out of some of these healers (props to them) is just insane
this is classic, VD + alchemist + willpower and I've replaced willpwer with Grothdar, undaunted 5+1+1, I've even tried this with Necro and Alchemist with over 50k magicka and the results are the same
so all these videos I see seems like only if there is someone else pushing in or if the opponents are really new?
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I´ve also started to practice bombing just recently (using the Classic teather bombing setup) and I´ll have to admitt it´s harder than the youtubers makes it look. At the moment I´m having hard time timing the Proxy together with soul-teather.
To pros of soulteather bombing (if you get the timing correctly done) is that you can´t counter it in the same way you can counter EotS.
So far I´ve realised a few things with my setup that makes it difficult for me (aside from the amount of experience which is the main factor of a successfull zerg bomb):
* Some skillines aren´t maxed out so I´m not getting maximum damage potential just yet
* My gear isn´t gold (all Purple) and from what I know for burst it has a lot of meaning if you´re golded out or not
*(*insert triggerwarning here) I´m on EU server. People have more Brains lel and are in generall harder to bomb.0 -
a1i3nz✭✭✭✭Bombing used to be much easier. It's still pretty easy though. Just gotta look for a group that isn't notoriously tanky or full of negates.
I've been playing my bomber for the past few months because it's not even fun to play anything else anymore and solo is dead. You can run same old setup as ever (clever, vicious, wp).
Tethering is making a comeback because of the influx of noobs into Cyrodiil since Morrowind, that's the only reason. More lowbie groups chilling on flags. I recommend having your might of the guild passive so you can proc that empower.0 -
pcar944✭✭✭✭Bombing used to be much easier. It's still pretty easy though. Just gotta look for a group that isn't notoriously tanky or full of negates.
I've been playing my bomber for the past few months because it's not even fun to play anything else anymore and solo is dead. You can run same old setup as ever (clever, vicious, wp).
Tethering is making a comeback because of the influx of noobs into Cyrodiil since Morrowind, that's the only reason. More lowbie groups chilling on flags. I recommend having your might of the guild passive so you can proc that empower.
that's exactly it, just bombing noobs
bombing used to be so much moreOne Tamriel killed PVP
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Nutshotz✭✭✭✭Bombing groups like VE solo well just won't work
My bomber set up, clever, grothdar, VD works really well but when I'm in group I run spinners instead of clever for the pen.
I've never been a fan of destro bombs but the smh output is just enormous but tether bombs is on the rising again0 -
Zordrage✭✭✭✭✭im glad bombing is going away....
they should nerf it even more and buff the darn Siege weapons that was MADE TO BOMB GROUPS !!!!..
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mirrormirror✭✭As an indulgent in the arts of bombing, I can tell you right now that it is not going anywhere.
https://youtu.be/RZKVpoCTTew
Solo bomb, 87.4k tick, NA Sotha Sil, and around 32 dead.
This was only a couple days ago. I've exclusively used bomb blading to get number one in Sotha Sil EP this cycle.
And no, you can bomb way more than resources. And yes, veteran PvPers will/do die to it.- ð Ysaraj ð -
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Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade
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wolfwraith37✭✭✭mirrormirror wrote: »And no, you can bomb way more than resources. And yes, veteran PvPers will/do die to it.
They absolutely do. A lot of people just don't learn. There was actually one bomb you did that was the most frustrating thing...it was at Alessia mine. You bombed the entire group, then after everyone was ressed, In Darkness bombed again and killed everyone. And then everyone immediately ran to the farm and stood around on the flags like they hadn't just been bombed twice ten seconds ago. It was one of the most frustrating and bewildering things I have ever seen. Was so disappointed when there wasn't a third bomb lolEdited by wolfwraith37 on July 29, 2017 5:13PMKavesh - Stamblade
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After practicing bombing a few days I can conclude the following (talking about solobombing not in a raid)
- Soultether bombing is more lethal, but much more difficult to execute. The pros of soultethter bombing is that there´s no counter to it if you manage to time the Proxydet with Soultether. Much more burstdamage compared to Eye of the Storm.
- You will never be able to kill an organised raid. Most of these organised raids everyone or most people run with Plaugedoctor set which give them 30-35k+ health, making them very hard to kill.
- Choose your bombing carefully. The best bombing are achieved when your opponent thinks the fight is over and doesn´t use any heals or are reapplying their buffs.
- Even esier is it if you play on NA server. People on EU know how to not get bombed.0 -
mirrormirror✭✭wolfwraith37 wrote: »mirrormirror wrote: »And no, you can bomb way more than resources. And yes, veteran PvPers will/do die to it.
They absolutely do. A lot of people just don't learn. There was actually one bomb you did that was the most frustrating thing...it was at Alessia mine. You bombed the entire group, then after everyone was ressed, In Darkness bombed again and killed everyone. And then everyone immediately ran to the farm and stood around on the flags like they hadn't just been bombed twice ten seconds ago. It was one of the most frustrating and bewildering things I have ever seen. Was so disappointed when there wasn't a third bomb lol
Haha, I'm telling you! Me and In Darkness are friends but it wasn't coordinated LOL.Upate:
After practicing bombing a few days I can conclude the following (talking about solobombing not in a raid)
- Soultether bombing is more lethal, but much more difficult to execute. The pros of soultethter bombing is that there´s no counter to it if you manage to time the Proxydet with Soultether. Much more burstdamage compared to Eye of the Storm.
- You will never be able to kill an organised raid. Most of these organised raids everyone or most people run with Plaugedoctor set which give them 30-35k+ health, making them very hard to kill.
- Choose your bombing carefully. The best bombing are achieved when your opponent thinks the fight is over and doesn´t use any heals or are reapplying their buffs.
- Even esier is it if you play on NA server. People on EU know how to not get bombed.
I pretty much disagree with most of this.
Organized groups are def. my bread and butter.
Edit: Just realized you recently started so it makes sense lol.Edited by mirrormirror on July 29, 2017 6:19PM- ð Ysaraj ð -
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Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade
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pcar944✭✭✭✭PeaNutShotz wrote: »Bombing groups like VE solo well just won't work
My bomber set up, clever, grothdar, VD works really well but when I'm in group I run spinners instead of clever for the pen.
I've never been a fan of destro bombs but the smh output is just enormous but tether bombs is on the rising again
since I'm on my DC rn, its almost impossible to even bomb a pug AD/EP group, Ive tried all day
unless they are complete basket cases, its not the same as it used to be at all
half of Vivec is healtanks or DK/Templars, doesn't matter what I'm wearing or how much mag I have
seems like Teether bombing is the way to goOne Tamriel killed PVP
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pcar944✭✭✭✭Upate:
After practicing bombing a few days I can conclude the following (talking about solobombing not in a raid)
- Soultether bombing is more lethal, but much more difficult to execute. The pros of soultethter bombing is that there´s no counter to it if you manage to time the Proxydet with Soultether. Much more burstdamage compared to Eye of the Storm.
- You will never be able to kill an organised raid. Most of these organised raids everyone or most people run with Plaugedoctor set which give them 30-35k+ health, making them very hard to kill.
- Choose your bombing carefully. The best bombing are achieved when your opponent thinks the fight is over and doesn´t use any heals or are reapplying their buffs.
- Even esier is it if you play on NA server. People on EU know how to not get bombed.
yep this is pretty much my conclusions as well
there's no counter to teether bombing unless you get detect pottedOne Tamriel killed PVP
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Sythen88411✭✭✭✭✭Bombing is a art form. You can't just Yolo in a zerg and think it's gonna get you kills. You have to do it at the right time and the right spot. I have no issues bombing I mean there are your fails and then there are your I just got 17 with vd
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IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Zerg bombing??? Is that when u chase 2 People with 6 People behind u all with destro ults active???
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Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
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✭✭✭✭✭mirrormirror wrote: »wolfwraith37 wrote: »mirrormirror wrote: »And no, you can bomb way more than resources. And yes, veteran PvPers will/do die to it.
They absolutely do. A lot of people just don't learn. There was actually one bomb you did that was the most frustrating thing...it was at Alessia mine. You bombed the entire group, then after everyone was ressed, In Darkness bombed again and killed everyone. And then everyone immediately ran to the farm and stood around on the flags like they hadn't just been bombed twice ten seconds ago. It was one of the most frustrating and bewildering things I have ever seen. Was so disappointed when there wasn't a third bomb lol
Haha, I'm telling you! Me and In Darkness are friends but it wasn't coordinated LOL.Upate:
After practicing bombing a few days I can conclude the following (talking about solobombing not in a raid)
- Soultether bombing is more lethal, but much more difficult to execute. The pros of soultethter bombing is that there´s no counter to it if you manage to time the Proxydet with Soultether. Much more burstdamage compared to Eye of the Storm.
- You will never be able to kill an organised raid. Most of these organised raids everyone or most people run with Plaugedoctor set which give them 30-35k+ health, making them very hard to kill.
- Choose your bombing carefully. The best bombing are achieved when your opponent thinks the fight is over and doesn´t use any heals or are reapplying their buffs.
- Even esier is it if you play on NA server. People on EU know how to not get bombed.
I pretty much disagree with most of this.
Organized groups are def. my bread and butter.
Edit: Just realized you recently started so it makes sense lol.
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pcar944✭✭✭✭mirrormirror wrote: »
You got any tip for a newbie bomber?
practice, practice, practice
giving this another go, but going to be using Tether insteadOne Tamriel killed PVP
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mirrormirror✭✭@Qbiken
First, you learn these two things:
Build and Rotation.
Eventually, you learn these three things:
Timing, Positioning, and Situational Awareness.
No better advice than that. Trust me.- ð Ysaraj ð -
Bomb Blade
Former Emperor of Sotha Sil
Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade
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Sotha Sil and others
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✭✭mirrormirror wrote: »wolfwraith37 wrote: »mirrormirror wrote: »And no, you can bomb way more than resources. And yes, veteran PvPers will/do die to it.
They absolutely do. A lot of people just don't learn. There was actually one bomb you did that was the most frustrating thing...it was at Alessia mine. You bombed the entire group, then after everyone was ressed, In Darkness bombed again and killed everyone. And then everyone immediately ran to the farm and stood around on the flags like they hadn't just been bombed twice ten seconds ago. It was one of the most frustrating and bewildering things I have ever seen. Was so disappointed when there wasn't a third bomb lol
Haha, I'm telling you! Me and In Darkness are friends but it wasn't coordinated LOL.Upate:
After practicing bombing a few days I can conclude the following (talking about solobombing not in a raid)
- Soultether bombing is more lethal, but much more difficult to execute. The pros of soultethter bombing is that there´s no counter to it if you manage to time the Proxydet with Soultether. Much more burstdamage compared to Eye of the Storm.
- You will never be able to kill an organised raid. Most of these organised raids everyone or most people run with Plaugedoctor set which give them 30-35k+ health, making them very hard to kill.
- Choose your bombing carefully. The best bombing are achieved when your opponent thinks the fight is over and doesn´t use any heals or are reapplying their buffs.
- Even esier is it if you play on NA server. People on EU know how to not get bombed.
I pretty much disagree with most of this.
Organized groups are def. my bread and butter.
Edit: Just realized you recently started so it makes sense lol.
You got any tip for a newbie bomber?
Don't use tether, unles you find a bunch of pve:ers
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https://youtu.be/wQVjj4AlkW4
Don't use tether...
Run in groups....
Stack ults....
Bla bla bla....
Um.... okay? How bout no.Edited by Nyladreas on August 3, 2017 1:17AM3 -
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✭✭https://youtu.be/wQVjj4AlkW4
Don't use tether...
Run in groups....
Stack ults....
Bla bla bla....
Um.... okay? How bout no.
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Dedimos✭✭✭https://youtu.be/wQVjj4AlkW4
Don't use tether...
Run in groups....
Stack ults....
Bla bla bla....
Um.... okay? How bout no.
Tether bombing is ok, just harder to execute on more experienced people, like Kas said. You will get better bombs with destro ult for sure, at least in terms of amount of killed people, but ninja tether bombing is still more fun for me
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pcar944✭✭✭✭alright maybe you guys can share some more info then
are these clips in CP or non-CP camps
and how is your CP set up, cause my *** doesn't hit this hard wearing ALL goldOne Tamriel killed PVP
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✭✭✭✭If you're tether bombing you should run spinners, since there's no time to counter you lose all the disadvantages of spinners and get more overall damage
That's my only 2 cents, everything else seems to be coveredEdited by Lexxypwns on August 3, 2017 9:06PM1 -
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✭✭https://youtu.be/wQVjj4AlkW4
Don't use tether...
Run in groups....
Stack ults....
Bla bla bla....
Um.... okay? How bout no.
Tether bombing is ok, just harder to execute on more experienced people, like Kas said. You will get better bombs with destro ult for sure, at least in terms of amount of killed people, but ninja tether bombing is still more fun for mehttps://youtu.be/wtmaH7awxp0
That was beautiful
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pcar944✭✭✭✭been trying again on CP vivec and its literally dumb, cant kill anythingOne Tamriel killed PVP
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Don't use tether...
Run in groups....
Stack ults....
Bla bla bla....
Um.... okay? How bout no.
Tether bombing is ok, just harder to execute on more experienced people, like Kas said. You will get better bombs with destro ult for sure, at least in terms of amount of killed people, but ninja tether bombing is still more fun for mehttps://youtu.be/wtmaH7awxp0
I find it amusing 85% of your bombs are against the AD faction Edited by Joy_Division on August 3, 2017 10:07PMMake Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.1
