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July 2015 V14 DK 750CP Solo's Hiath VDSA - Why CP Needs To Have Caps...
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✭✭✭✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »Those stats are only possible through battle leveling, no? 30k stam, 17k mag, and 28k health.
@Wreuntzylla
No. My guess is he is an imperial for starters which adds 12% max health and 10% max stam. The stats were obtainable for imperial tanks pre Morrowind.0 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »Those stats are only possible through battle leveling, no? 30k stam, 17k mag, and 28k health.
@Wreuntzylla
No. My guess is he is an imperial for starters which adds 12% max health and 10% max stam. The stats were obtainable for imperial tanks pre Morrowind.
Battle leveling also was not implemented in ESO at this time.2 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »And BTW I still love how you show a video of some guy from 2 years ago and say this is why CP. Must have a cap yet there are many things that have changed for people who play now did not have to worry back then. Like for starters you could perma block and still have stamina recovery, all dungeons and trials where not as hard as they are now bosses Strongs now mobs stronger. Now everything hits harder and has more HP if that guy tried that now he would be out of Stam within secs of fighting like that. So showing that video does nothing but show how broken the game was and, how easy it was when it came to vet trials and dungeons cya and goodnight.
Dude everyone in this thread that has read your posts and I think I can speak for everyone when I say, please keep responding, just for the lawls your responses generate. I showed this video to demonstrate how only 2 players in the entire world could accomplish this incredible feat back then. Main reason they were able to do this was due to the no CP cap, that is what this video represents. I have been in end game eso since 2014, and I am sure you are going to say you have as well, which is great! You should be more than well aware that Andy accomplished this first in June of 2015, and after hearing about it Vash did it himself like a month later. This guy was easily one of the best players around NA. Like I mentioned before, many people tried to do this and failed over and over again. From my knowledge, only 2 players have accomplished this feat pre orsinium. You can go off all you want on trying to say everyone on Xbox were godlike and you guys were doing this all the time due to the fact of how "super easy" it was. The fact is you were more than likely a pretty mediocre player back then, and would probably need to be carried through a VDSA. Considering you first thought this was a normal clear, until you were corrected by another poster then you went and edited you original post, we cant all but help doubt any knowledge you claim to have... Anyone who ever did a VDSA, even once, knows the difference between normal and vet. The hiccup you had there was downright hilarious and honestly confuses me on how you still keep posting trying to argue things you really don't have much knowledge on. Fact, I was running with a couple of solid groups that would compete for top leaderboard trial scores on a weekly basis. A large amount of extremely good players that I know failed trying to accomplish this feat a ton of times, at 500+ CP (which was huge back then). The fact is anyone who was a half decent player back then and running VDSA knows exactly how insanely hard this was and was only done by a select number of very good players. Please continue to argue about how "super easy" this was with absolutely no proof to add any credibility to anything you say. We wouldn't mind seeing you claim this was normal instead of vet a few more times as well. Keep the lawls coming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »If this was not easy 2 years ago for you all then wow you should have l2p or gitgud since it was easy mode and I bet most of you think vet maelstrom is hard as well right?
I'd ask you to prove your claims, but you'll just say you can't anymore because it's been changed, but you'll assure me that you've soloed it at least 20 times, including at least 5 times with a blindfold and just one hand.
Its worth the lawls man, its worth the lawls.
Yet you where still some pug looking to buy vmaw runs and get someone to run vma for you GG0 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭And still you are showing a video of some guy beating an easy to run VDSA before vet trials and dungeons where hard "like they are now" when mobs and bosses did not hit as hard and you could block all day and still have Stam recovery 2 people in the world only could do this? Haha that's a joke gitgud kid did you ever get your maw skin or did you pay for it?0 -
Cously✭✭✭✭✭
✭VDSA has been tweaked since then. DKs got nerfed. Imperial passives + caltrops as well. CP got nerfed. To compare two scenarios is apples to oranges. Top 1% will keep doing their awesome feats and excluding newbies no matter what. There are stories of sorcs who soloed parts of trials with capped CPs so clearly they aren't the problem, it was a combination of things. Bow to the might DK though, who once soloed 20 ppl in Cyro pilling up one standard on top of the other, god bless. The CP situation is like the national debt, ppl know it will crash but keep making half assed excuses. 25 years to reach 3600 CP in the current progression, noobs will always feel the power creep once they hit CP 10 and see others like CP 750. System must be scrapped or revamped, it was already in BGs and some camps in Cyro.1 -
Shadzilla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »And BTW I still love how you show a video of some guy from 2 years ago and say this is why CP. Must have a cap yet there are many things that have changed for people who play now did not have to worry back then. Like for starters you could perma block and still have stamina recovery, all dungeons and trials where not as hard as they are now bosses Strongs now mobs stronger. Now everything hits harder and has more HP if that guy tried that now he would be out of Stam within secs of fighting like that. So showing that video does nothing but show how broken the game was and, how easy it was when it came to vet trials and dungeons cya and goodnight.
Dude everyone in this thread that has read your posts and I think I can speak for everyone when I say, please keep responding, just for the lawls your responses generate. I showed this video to demonstrate how only 2 players in the entire world could accomplish this incredible feat back then. Main reason they were able to do this was due to the no CP cap, that is what this video represents. I have been in end game eso since 2014, and I am sure you are going to say you have as well, which is great! You should be more than well aware that Andy accomplished this first in June of 2015, and after hearing about it Vash did it himself like a month later. This guy was easily one of the best players around NA. Like I mentioned before, many people tried to do this and failed over and over again. From my knowledge, only 2 players have accomplished this feat pre orsinium. You can go off all you want on trying to say everyone on Xbox were godlike and you guys were doing this all the time due to the fact of how "super easy" it was. The fact is you were more than likely a pretty mediocre player back then, and would probably need to be carried through a VDSA. Considering you first thought this was a normal clear, until you were corrected by another poster then you went and edited you original post, we cant all but help doubt any knowledge you claim to have... Anyone who ever did a VDSA, even once, knows the difference between normal and vet. The hiccup you had there was downright hilarious and honestly confuses me on how you still keep posting trying to argue things you really don't have much knowledge on. Fact, I was running with a couple of solid groups that would compete for top leaderboard trial scores on a weekly basis. A large amount of extremely good players that I know failed trying to accomplish this feat a ton of times, at 500+ CP (which was huge back then). The fact is anyone who was a half decent player back then and running VDSA knows exactly how insanely hard this was and was only done by a select number of very good players. Please continue to argue about how "super easy" this was with absolutely no proof to add any credibility to anything you say. We wouldn't mind seeing you claim this was normal instead of vet a few more times as well. Keep the lawls coming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »If this was not easy 2 years ago for you all then wow you should have l2p or gitgud since it was easy mode and I bet most of you think vet maelstrom is hard as well right?
I'd ask you to prove your claims, but you'll just say you can't anymore because it's been changed, but you'll assure me that you've soloed it at least 20 times, including at least 5 times with a blindfold and just one hand.
Its worth the lawls man, its worth the lawls.
Yet you where still some pug looking to buy vmaw runs and get someone to run vma for you GGUnfadingsilence wrote: »And still you are showing a video of some guy beating an easy to run VDSA before vet trials and dungeons where hard "like they are now" when mobs and bosses did not hit as hard and you could block all day and still have Stam recovery 2 people in the world only could do this? Haha that's a joke gitgud kid did you ever get your maw skin or did you pay for it?
Lol your insulting attempts are poor to say the least. I got my maw skin grinding out the trial for months last year just like everyone else. I completed around 250 vma runs to get my sharp inferno middle of last year. Like I said before, you clearly have no idea how hard this feat was and how many people failed attempting to do it. I have only seen and heard of 2 people actually achieving this pre orsinium. You also thought this video was in a normal dsa, until someone corrected your incompetence. Keep bringing the lawls for the community bud.7 -
xSkullfox✭✭✭✭✭They rly need to rework the cps, lets skip 3 years in the future with the current system, more dlcs, updates -> increasing cp cap,
Players will have maxed CP trees and then ? new players will have never a chance to keep up in pvp, dueling etc. simply youre simply overpowered as ***. This forces ZOS to add non-cp stuff like now. Then whats sense makes the cp then if you cant use them ???
Its a never ending story
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✭✭✭✭✭It's always funny when discussions about legitimate game questions derail into the e-peen contest. Way to go!Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »And BTW I still love how you show a video of some guy from 2 years ago and say this is why CP. Must have a cap yet there are many things that have changed for people who play now did not have to worry back then. Like for starters you could perma block and still have stamina recovery, all dungeons and trials where not as hard as they are now bosses Strongs now mobs stronger. Now everything hits harder and has more HP if that guy tried that now he would be out of Stam within secs of fighting like that. So showing that video does nothing but show how broken the game was and, how easy it was when it came to vet trials and dungeons cya and goodnight.
Dude everyone in this thread that has read your posts and I think I can speak for everyone when I say, please keep responding, just for the lawls your responses generate. I showed this video to demonstrate how only 2 players in the entire world could accomplish this incredible feat back then. Main reason they were able to do this was due to the no CP cap, that is what this video represents. I have been in end game eso since 2014, and I am sure you are going to say you have as well, which is great! You should be more than well aware that Andy accomplished this first in June of 2015, and after hearing about it Vash did it himself like a month later. This guy was easily one of the best players around NA. Like I mentioned before, many people tried to do this and failed over and over again. From my knowledge, only 2 players have accomplished this feat pre orsinium. You can go off all you want on trying to say everyone on Xbox were godlike and you guys were doing this all the time due to the fact of how "super easy" it was. The fact is you were more than likely a pretty mediocre player back then, and would probably need to be carried through a VDSA. Considering you first thought this was a normal clear, until you were corrected by another poster then you went and edited you original post, we cant all but help doubt any knowledge you claim to have... Anyone who ever did a VDSA, even once, knows the difference between normal and vet. The hiccup you had there was downright hilarious and honestly confuses me on how you still keep posting trying to argue things you really don't have much knowledge on. Fact, I was running with a couple of solid groups that would compete for top leaderboard trial scores on a weekly basis. A large amount of extremely good players that I know failed trying to accomplish this feat a ton of times, at 500+ CP (which was huge back then). The fact is anyone who was a half decent player back then and running VDSA knows exactly how insanely hard this was and was only done by a select number of very good players. Please continue to argue about how "super easy" this was with absolutely no proof to add any credibility to anything you say. We wouldn't mind seeing you claim this was normal instead of vet a few more times as well. Keep the lawls coming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »If this was not easy 2 years ago for you all then wow you should have l2p or gitgud since it was easy mode and I bet most of you think vet maelstrom is hard as well right?
I'd ask you to prove your claims, but you'll just say you can't anymore because it's been changed, but you'll assure me that you've soloed it at least 20 times, including at least 5 times with a blindfold and just one hand.
Its worth the lawls man, its worth the lawls.
Yet you where still some pug looking to buy vmaw runs and get someone to run vma for you GGUnfadingsilence wrote: »And still you are showing a video of some guy beating an easy to run VDSA before vet trials and dungeons where hard "like they are now" when mobs and bosses did not hit as hard and you could block all day and still have Stam recovery 2 people in the world only could do this? Haha that's a joke gitgud kid did you ever get your maw skin or did you pay for it?
Lol your insulting attempts are poor to say the least. I got my maw skin grinding out the trial for months last year just like everyone else. I completed around 250 vma runs to get my sharp inferno middle of last year. Like I said before, you clearly have no idea how hard this feat was and how many people failed attempting to do it. I have only seen and heard of 2 people actually achieving this pre orsinium. You also thought this video was in a normal dsa, until someone corrected your incompetence. Keep bringing the lawls for the community bud.
Na I know you and your boys on PC said you paid for vmaw and ya wait dude was using evil hunter as well haha GG it was glitched 2 years ago as well when you could buff stack it try try again by showing how broken CP was 2 years ago and how ALL trials and vdsa and dungeons where all weak and mobs and bosses where weak as well and how you could perma block and still get Stam recovery as well just like people would solo vet city of ash since evil hunt
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✭✭✭✭✭They rly need to rework the cps, lets skip 3 years in the future with the current system, more dlcs, updates -> increasing cp cap,
Players will have maxed CP trees and then ? new players will have never a chance to keep up in pvp, dueling etc. simply youre simply overpowered as ***. This forces ZOS to add non-cp stuff like now. Then whats sense makes the cp then if you cant use them ???
Its a never ending story
The same catch-up mechanics in place now will still be around then.
A constantly increasing CP cap is terrible design though in the sense that it removes the need to allocate points strategically. Eventually, we will be at the point where you can just max out every relevant tree. This will take away a huge layer of depth from the gameplay, while introducing ridiculous power creep (even the most challenging content will be a cakewalk).
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✭And since that guy in the video was using an exploit with evil hunter since it was broken then i wonder if he was using hacks as well? I mean if you have to cheat to win then probably
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Sheva I 7 I✭✭✭✭ok so guy with extremely tanky build, pulling 8k dps at most if not less, with 750 cp when v14 was max and a dk which was the most overpowered class back then, yes he got great co-ordination, but nothing to claim holy grail of. Calm down he didn't die probably just got bored after grinding zombies in cyrodil till 750 cp (lmao what a waste of time when there was no catch up system or anything) or maybe he even moved out of his mothers basement and lives with a room mate (who takes very smelly craps) in 1 bedroom apartment.
Only reason more people didn't do this is that you have to completely give up everything in your life to grind zombies that long...2 -
Darth_Trumpious✭✭✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Nice clip to bad it was done on normal not vet and it was done over 2 years ago when it was v14 still and when it was SUPER easy to solo
Nope. Normal was V13. Vet was V14.
I've never done Vet but there are no flame atros in that fight in Normal. Only the mini-bosses.
I corrected my self but still it was super easy to run that solo 2 years ago you can't do that now
Let me get this straight, you are claiming this was "super easy" to accomplish 2 years ago? He was literally one of only two people I knew that could do this and I know many that tried. There were tons of people like yourself that would bash the guy and say how easy it was until they were called out and couldn't come close... Your description of "super easy" is actually pretty comical... If you are saying that this was done a large amount of times by a ton of different people because of how "super easy" it was I would love to see some proof to add credibility to your comments. Other than vash and andy I have not seen or heard of anyone else accomplishing this.
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✭I remember this video. I was handed my *** in my hand when I saw that. Those saying that vDSA was super easy back those days probably never did it on vet mode. By any standards it was not easy. With the CP being introduced, game did took a huge turn and all of sudden there was a big power creep already making its way into the game and that's what this video represents. It doesn't attempt to compare the difficulty of 1 dungeon at 2 different times but the difference if CP system is left open ended. Current caps keep a check on all aspects of game but if left open, there will be no ceiling left. People with current cap who pull 50-60k DPS willl become GOD and the content difficulty will be based on how many Extr CP you have rather than having a base point to compare.
So don't see this video for difficulty comparison but what effect an Open CP system will have...Urban.Monk
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✭✭✭✭✭They rly need to rework the cps, lets skip 3 years in the future with the current system, more dlcs, updates -> increasing cp cap,
Players will have maxed CP trees and then ? new players will have never a chance to keep up in pvp, dueling etc. simply youre simply overpowered as ***. This forces ZOS to add non-cp stuff like now. Then whats sense makes the cp then if you cant use them ???
Its a never ending story
The amount of CP's needed to reach the cap will always be the same. With each update number of exp required to gain certain cp is lowered so at any point of the game in the future new players will always need to spend same amount of time to get CP cap and with each update will get lower CP's faster.0 -
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✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Nice clip to bad it was done on normal not vet and it was done over 2 years ago when it was v14 still and when it was SUPER easy to solo
Nope. Normal was V13. Vet was V14.
I've never done Vet but there are no flame atros in that fight in Normal. Only the mini-bosses.
I corrected my self but still it was super easy to run that solo 2 years ago you can't do that now
Let me get this straight, you are claiming this was "super easy" to accomplish 2 years ago? He was literally one of only two people I knew that could do this and I know many that tried. There were tons of people like yourself that would bash the guy and say how easy it was until they were called out and couldn't come close... Your description of "super easy" is actually pretty comical... If you are saying that this was done a large amount of times by a ton of different people because of how "super easy" it was I would love to see some proof to add credibility to your comments. Other than vash and andy I have not seen or heard of anyone else accomplishing this.
1 of 2 people maybe on pc there where many on Xbox na that could and would do it solo back then now it's impossible with how vet trials are
Hahaha, you got be kidding me. Many might say they could do it but I havent seen any Xbox vDSA solo vids on youtube. No proof means its all big talk and no action. If so many people could do it surely someone would've posted a video on YT, dont you think?
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✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »And BTW I still love how you show a video of some guy from 2 years ago and say this is why CP. Must have a cap yet there are many things that have changed for people who play now did not have to worry back then. Like for starters you could perma block and still have stamina recovery, all dungeons and trials where not as hard as they are now bosses Strongs now mobs stronger. Now everything hits harder and has more HP if that guy tried that now he would be out of Stam within secs of fighting like that. So showing that video does nothing but show how broken the game was and, how easy it was when it came to vet trials and dungeons cya and goodnight.
Dude everyone in this thread that has read your posts and I think I can speak for everyone when I say, please keep responding, just for the lawls your responses generate. I showed this video to demonstrate how only 2 players in the entire world could accomplish this incredible feat back then. Main reason they were able to do this was due to the no CP cap, that is what this video represents. I have been in end game eso since 2014, and I am sure you are going to say you have as well, which is great! You should be more than well aware that Andy accomplished this first in June of 2015, and after hearing about it Vash did it himself like a month later. This guy was easily one of the best players around NA. Like I mentioned before, many people tried to do this and failed over and over again. From my knowledge, only 2 players have accomplished this feat pre orsinium. You can go off all you want on trying to say everyone on Xbox were godlike and you guys were doing this all the time due to the fact of how "super easy" it was. The fact is you were more than likely a pretty mediocre player back then, and would probably need to be carried through a VDSA. Considering you first thought this was a normal clear, until you were corrected by another poster then you went and edited you original post, we cant all but help doubt any knowledge you claim to have... Anyone who ever did a VDSA, even once, knows the difference between normal and vet. The hiccup you had there was downright hilarious and honestly confuses me on how you still keep posting trying to argue things you really don't have much knowledge on. Fact, I was running with a couple of solid groups that would compete for top leaderboard trial scores on a weekly basis. A large amount of extremely good players that I know failed trying to accomplish this feat a ton of times, at 500+ CP (which was huge back then). The fact is anyone who was a half decent player back then and running VDSA knows exactly how insanely hard this was and was only done by a select number of very good players. Please continue to argue about how "super easy" this was with absolutely no proof to add any credibility to anything you say. We wouldn't mind seeing you claim this was normal instead of vet a few more times as well. Keep the lawls coming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »If this was not easy 2 years ago for you all then wow you should have l2p or gitgud since it was easy mode and I bet most of you think vet maelstrom is hard as well right?
I'd ask you to prove your claims, but you'll just say you can't anymore because it's been changed, but you'll assure me that you've soloed it at least 20 times, including at least 5 times with a blindfold and just one hand.
Its worth the lawls man, its worth the lawls.
Yet you where still some pug looking to buy vmaw runs and get someone to run vma for you GGUnfadingsilence wrote: »And still you are showing a video of some guy beating an easy to run VDSA before vet trials and dungeons where hard "like they are now" when mobs and bosses did not hit as hard and you could block all day and still have Stam recovery 2 people in the world only could do this? Haha that's a joke gitgud kid did you ever get your maw skin or did you pay for it?
Lol your insulting attempts are poor to say the least. I got my maw skin grinding out the trial for months last year just like everyone else. I completed around 250 vma runs to get my sharp inferno middle of last year. Like I said before, you clearly have no idea how hard this feat was and how many people failed attempting to do it. I have only seen and heard of 2 people actually achieving this pre orsinium. You also thought this video was in a normal dsa, until someone corrected your incompetence. Keep bringing the lawls for the community bud.
Na I know you and your boys on PC said you paid for vmaw and ya wait dude was using evil hunter as well haha GG it was glitched 2 years ago as well when you could buff stack it try try again by showing how broken CP was 2 years ago and how ALL trials and vdsa and dungeons where all weak and mobs and bosses where weak as well and how you could perma block and still get Stam recovery as well just like people would solo vet city of ash since evil hunt
Me and my boys on PC paid for vmaw? Lol dude "me and my boys" spent hours a few times a week over months to complete that trial. In all honesty the difficulty of the twins back when it released was extremely high, and shattered multiple PVE guilds. Who are you buddy? Like honestly, I am trying to wrap my head around it. You come in here saying this was 2 years ago, thought it was on normal for some reason (obviously extremely inexperienced), and went off trying to say how "super easy" this feat was. You then get put in your place by multiple people, and keep going off on how elite you and your Xbox buddies are. Let me restate that there has only been 2 people recorded of doing this, out of dozens of extremely talented players that attempted... All of these players I can assure you have much more knowledge, experience, and skill than you do (judging from the sheer amature-ness of your posts). In all honesty if anyone of you or your friends were capable of doing this I am beyond positive you would have recorded it. "Xbox does not keep videos that long one you have so many videos you have to delete them to make room for more and keeping videos back when VR where in place..." the excuse that your xbox doesn't keep videos that long is not going to fly LOL. Buddy, only a couple people in the world did this, you would be uploading that video to youtube so fast and we all know it. Just admit what happened here... I made a post showing how a large amount of CP with no cap gives massive advantages to players. I provided a video showing something only 2 players in the world have done. You came in here trying to show off saying it was "super easy" stating that you and all your friends have done it tons of times. You provide absolutely no proof, and display nothing but a novice amount of mostly incorrect knowledge about the game. You even thought this was a normal run for some reason, even when the difference was so massive back then, further proving you lack of knowledge. After being called out by lots of different people, you still continue to give us the lawls that we appreciate, and for that I do thank you. The fact is this was only accomplished by a couple extremely good players, and was only able to be done due to the massive amount of CP they had at the time. The example may be 2 years old, but really demonstrates the advantages of having 5 times the amount of CP everyone else did.Edited by Shadzilla on July 29, 2017 2:53AM3 -
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✭Darth_Trumpious wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Nice clip to bad it was done on normal not vet and it was done over 2 years ago when it was v14 still and when it was SUPER easy to solo
Nope. Normal was V13. Vet was V14.
I've never done Vet but there are no flame atros in that fight in Normal. Only the mini-bosses.
I corrected my self but still it was super easy to run that solo 2 years ago you can't do that now
Let me get this straight, you are claiming this was "super easy" to accomplish 2 years ago? He was literally one of only two people I knew that could do this and I know many that tried. There were tons of people like yourself that would bash the guy and say how easy it was until they were called out and couldn't come close... Your description of "super easy" is actually pretty comical... If you are saying that this was done a large amount of times by a ton of different people because of how "super easy" it was I would love to see some proof to add credibility to your comments. Other than vash and andy I have not seen or heard of anyone else accomplishing this.
Who is the other "one of the two" back then? Must have quit the game as well
Andy S, EU player. Arguably the best VMA runner in the world. He is still around and has a youtube channel, his vma runs are disgusting https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmDbdA-aGwDNCSfshvEU-2w1 -
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✭I remember this video. I was handed my *** in my hand when I saw that. Those saying that vDSA was super easy back those days probably never did it on vet mode. By any standards it was not easy. With the CP being introduced, game did took a huge turn and all of sudden there was a big power creep already making its way into the game and that's what this video represents. It doesn't attempt to compare the difficulty of 1 dungeon at 2 different times but the difference if CP system is left open ended. Current caps keep a check on all aspects of game but if left open, there will be no ceiling left. People with current cap who pull 50-60k DPS willl become GOD and the content difficulty will be based on how many Extr CP you have rather than having a base point to compare.
So don't see this video for difficulty comparison but what effect an Open CP system will have...
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✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Nice clip to bad it was done on normal not vet and it was done over 2 years ago when it was v14 still and when it was SUPER easy to solo
Nope. Normal was V13. Vet was V14.
I've never done Vet but there are no flame atros in that fight in Normal. Only the mini-bosses.
I corrected my self but still it was super easy to run that solo 2 years ago you can't do that now
Let me get this straight, you are claiming this was "super easy" to accomplish 2 years ago? He was literally one of only two people I knew that could do this and I know many that tried. There were tons of people like yourself that would bash the guy and say how easy it was until they were called out and couldn't come close... Your description of "super easy" is actually pretty comical... If you are saying that this was done a large amount of times by a ton of different people because of how "super easy" it was I would love to see some proof to add credibility to your comments. Other than vash and andy I have not seen or heard of anyone else accomplishing this.
1 of 2 people maybe on pc there where many on Xbox na that could and would do it solo back then now it's impossible with how vet trials are
Hahaha, you got be kidding me. Many might say they could do it but I havent seen any Xbox vDSA solo vids on youtube. No proof means its all big talk and no action. If so many people could do it surely someone would've posted a video on YT, dont you think?
He knows. He is attempting to call something that only a couple people in the world have done "super easy", he also thought this was a normal run lololol. He has been told, by many people, and in all honesty probably still hasn't cleared VDSA.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Na I know you and your boys on PC said you paid for vmaw and ya wait dude was using evil hunter as well haha GG it was glitched 2 years ago as well when you could buff stack it try try again by showing how broken CP was 2 years ago and how ALL trials and vdsa and dungeons where all weak and mobs and bosses where weak as well and how you could perma block and still get Stam recovery as well just like people would solo vet city of ash since evil hunt
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✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »And BTW I still love how you show a video of some guy from 2 years ago and say this is why CP. Must have a cap yet there are many things that have changed for people who play now did not have to worry back then. Like for starters you could perma block and still have stamina recovery, all dungeons and trials where not as hard as they are now bosses Strongs now mobs stronger. Now everything hits harder and has more HP if that guy tried that now he would be out of Stam within secs of fighting like that. So showing that video does nothing but show how broken the game was and, how easy it was when it came to vet trials and dungeons cya and goodnight.
Dude everyone in this thread that has read your posts and I think I can speak for everyone when I say, please keep responding, just for the lawls your responses generate. I showed this video to demonstrate how only 2 players in the entire world could accomplish this incredible feat back then. Main reason they were able to do this was due to the no CP cap, that is what this video represents. I have been in end game eso since 2014, and I am sure you are going to say you have as well, which is great! You should be more than well aware that Andy accomplished this first in June of 2015, and after hearing about it Vash did it himself like a month later. This guy was easily one of the best players around NA. Like I mentioned before, many people tried to do this and failed over and over again. From my knowledge, only 2 players have accomplished this feat pre orsinium. You can go off all you want on trying to say everyone on Xbox were godlike and you guys were doing this all the time due to the fact of how "super easy" it was. The fact is you were more than likely a pretty mediocre player back then, and would probably need to be carried through a VDSA. Considering you first thought this was a normal clear, until you were corrected by another poster then you went and edited you original post, we cant all but help doubt any knowledge you claim to have... Anyone who ever did a VDSA, even once, knows the difference between normal and vet. The hiccup you had there was downright hilarious and honestly confuses me on how you still keep posting trying to argue things you really don't have much knowledge on. Fact, I was running with a couple of solid groups that would compete for top leaderboard trial scores on a weekly basis. A large amount of extremely good players that I know failed trying to accomplish this feat a ton of times, at 500+ CP (which was huge back then). The fact is anyone who was a half decent player back then and running VDSA knows exactly how insanely hard this was and was only done by a select number of very good players. Please continue to argue about how "super easy" this was with absolutely no proof to add any credibility to anything you say. We wouldn't mind seeing you claim this was normal instead of vet a few more times as well. Keep the lawls coming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »If this was not easy 2 years ago for you all then wow you should have l2p or gitgud since it was easy mode and I bet most of you think vet maelstrom is hard as well right?
I'd ask you to prove your claims, but you'll just say you can't anymore because it's been changed, but you'll assure me that you've soloed it at least 20 times, including at least 5 times with a blindfold and just one hand.
Its worth the lawls man, its worth the lawls.
Yet you where still some pug looking to buy vmaw runs and get someone to run vma for you GGUnfadingsilence wrote: »And still you are showing a video of some guy beating an easy to run VDSA before vet trials and dungeons where hard "like they are now" when mobs and bosses did not hit as hard and you could block all day and still have Stam recovery 2 people in the world only could do this? Haha that's a joke gitgud kid did you ever get your maw skin or did you pay for it?
Lol your insulting attempts are poor to say the least. I got my maw skin grinding out the trial for months last year just like everyone else. I completed around 250 vma runs to get my sharp inferno middle of last year. Like I said before, you clearly have no idea how hard this feat was and how many people failed attempting to do it. I have only seen and heard of 2 people actually achieving this pre orsinium. You also thought this video was in a normal dsa, until someone corrected your incompetence. Keep bringing the lawls for the community bud.
Na I know you and your boys on PC said you paid for vmaw and ya wait dude was using evil hunter as well haha GG it was glitched 2 years ago as well when you could buff stack it try try again by showing how broken CP was 2 years ago and how ALL trials and vdsa and dungeons where all weak and mobs and bosses where weak as well and how you could perma block and still get Stam recovery as well just like people would solo vet city of ash since evil hunt
Me and my boys on PC paid for vmaw? Lol dude "me and my boys" spent hours a few times a week over months to complete that trial. In all honesty the difficulty of the twins back when it released was extremely high, and shattered multiple PVE guilds. Who are you buddy? Like honestly, I am trying to wrap my head around it. You come in here saying this was 2 years ago, thought it was on normal for some reason (obviously extremely inexperienced), and went off trying to say how "super easy" this feat was. You then get put in your place by multiple people, and keep going off on how elite you and your Xbox buddies are. Let me restate that there has only been 2 people recorded of doing this, out of dozens of extremely talented players that attempted... All of these players I can assure you have much more knowledge, experience, and skill than you do (judging from the sheer amature-ness of your posts). In all honesty if anyone of you or your friends were capable of doing this I am beyond positive you would have recorded it. "Xbox does not keep videos that long one you have so many videos you have to delete them to make room for more and keeping videos back when VR where in place..." the excuse that your xbox doesn't keep videos that long is not going to fly LOL. Buddy, only a couple people in the world did this, you would be uploading that video to youtube so fast and we all know it. Just admit what happened here... I made a post showing how a large amount of CP with no cap gives massive advantages to players. I provided a video showing something only 2 players in the world have done. You came in here trying to show off saying it was "super easy" stating that you and all your friends have done it tons of times. You provide absolutely no proof, and display nothing but a novice amount of mostly incorrect knowledge about the game. You even thought this was a normal run for some reason, even when the difference was so massive back then, further proving you lack of knowledge. After being called out by lots of different people, you still continue to give us the lawls that we appreciate, and for that I do thank you. The fact is this was only accomplished by a couple extremely good players, and was only able to be done due to the massive amount of CP they had at the time. The example may be 2 years old, but really demonstrates the advantages of having 5 times the amount of CP everyone else did.
Wow you must be so triggered right now to write a book I did not even read it haha gitgud2 -
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✭Super easy back then everyone running camouflage hunter and evil hunter since it was broke and did stupid damage
https://youtu.be/YtSoI1Bwgvs
https://youtu.be/he-UOqWkmNo
And I like how he keep it up in the fight since it was broken. Next let's see he could perma block since you get stam recovery back then #easymode no skill at all but keep getting triggered and writing me books
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✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Super easy back then everyone running camouflage hunter and evil hunter since it was broke and did stupid damagehttps://youtu.be/YtSoI1Bwgvshttps://youtu.be/he-UOqWkmNo
And I like how he keep it up in the fight since it was broken. Next let's see he could perma block since you get stam recovery back then #easymode no skill at all but keep getting triggered and writing me books
Are you seriously comparing an exploit to soloing the last boss of vDSA? Keep embarracing yourself kid, go on!
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✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Super easy back then everyone running camouflage hunter and evil hunter since it was broke and did stupid damage
And I like how he keep it up in the fight since it was broken. Next let's see he could perma block since you get stam recovery back then #easymode no skill at all but keep getting triggered and writing me books
Dude whether its midnight on Thursday or 6pm on a Friday night you respond to these posts within like 10 minutes, do you spend an entire Friday night watching these forums awaiting responses? Pretty sad dude, but I welcome the lawls. The evil hunter exploit was not used in this run, again clearly showing you lack of knowledge. You obviously don't know how that exploit used to work, but it was not used here... Stam recovery while blocking was a mechanic in game that everyone had access to, and does not change the fact that only 2 people in the world were able to accomplish this. If you refer to getting triggered as pointing out all the contradictions and false statements you make, then it seems I am getting triggered on a daily basis this week lol. Since you have only been through normal dsa, if you pay me and a few friends 100k gold each we can carry you through vet if you are interested, let me know. Keep the lawls coming.Edited by Shadzilla on July 29, 2017 4:49PM3 -
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✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Super easy back then everyone running camouflage hunter and evil hunter since it was broke and did stupid damagehttps://youtu.be/YtSoI1Bwgvshttps://youtu.be/he-UOqWkmNo
And I like how he keep it up in the fight since it was broken. Next let's see he could perma block since you get stam recovery back then #easymode no skill at all but keep getting triggered and writing me books
Are you seriously comparing an exploit to soloing the last boss of vDSA? Keep embarracing yourself kid, go on!
Yet that pug who did the run on the video you showed was using the same exploit 1
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