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Morrowind & pvp is destroying the game
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Syrusthevirus187✭✭✭✭Sorry dude, this has been stated and debunked many times. If they truly balanced around pvp, then why is it the part of the game that's the most UNbalanced.2 -
apostate9✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Since morrowind and it's pvp came out the game is almost unplayable from pve stand point
1 technical issues lag and disconnects make the game make playing unpleasant
2 Botting has become rampant
3 Gold sellers are mutiplying like rabbits
4 to accommodate PVP players all skills are being nerfed into uselessness in the name of balancing PVP
This may be the dumbest and most non-sequitur post I have ever seen. Well done. Logic has a headache now.
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Balancing pve and pvp would seem nice to me. But i do believe regen and so on were nerf because of dungeon being too easy. Thats pve, not the other way around.1 -
Cybercore_Death✭✭✭Stick to your guns OP. You'll find the forums contain nothing more than trolls and dedicated fanboys who don't want to admit that their beloved ESO is a shambles and in need of a lot of tlc to fix the multitude of issues. I've tried to raise various issues through various means and ZoS just don't care. You contract customer service and they tell you to post in the forums so that the trolls and dedicated fanboys wear you down to the point you just shut up and get on with it. ESO is a good game but it's also highly flawed throughout. As the head of ZoS once said though "You don't have to be here." Pretty much sums things up. Unlike the rest I wish you luck and hope that one day ZoS may actually care enough to fix the things that matter.I'm a Dunmer DK Damage Dealer - My that's a lot of D's2 -
NolaArch✭✭✭✭✭No it isn't.Ardat-Yakshii EP Stam NB
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Mash the buttons, hope for the best!
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Talon_Draconis✭✭✭Cybercore_Death wrote: »Stick to your guns OP. You'll find the forums contain nothing more than trolls and dedicated fanboys who don't want to admit that their beloved ESO is a shambles and in need of a lot of tlc to fix the multitude of issues. I've tried to raise various issues through various means and ZoS just don't care. You contract customer service and they tell you to post in the forums so that the trolls and dedicated fanboys wear you down to the point you just shut up and get on with it. ESO is a good game but it's also highly flawed throughout. As the head of ZoS once said though "You don't have to be here." Pretty much sums things up. Unlike the rest I wish you luck and hope that one day ZoS may actually care enough to fix the things that matter.
Thanks for your support
I think ESO was a great game....best mmo since Linage 2 but the game has switched orientation from great PVE to PVP game
I have seen this happen to many MMOs and it destroys the game.
To accommodate PVP the BALANCE any unique class skill till all characters become the same bland PVP gear bot,
If a character had unique skill buff it....as long as it if fun to play who cares if it becomes FOM
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LordNilloc✭✭✭Cybercore_Death wrote: »You contract customer service
Hope I don't contract customer service, sounds nasty!!!!7 -
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✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »tinythinker wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Since morrowind and it's pvp came out the game is almost unplayable from pve stand point
1 technical issues lag and disconnects make the game make playing unpleasant
2 Botting has become rampant
3 Gold sellers are mutiplying like rabbits
4 to accommodate PVP players all skills are being nerfed into uselessness in the name of balancing PVP
That's my line (and hook).
Did they get you hook line and sinker?0 -
TazESO✭✭✭Interesting perspectives all over this thread. Nuggets of truth even in opposing viewpoints, IMHO. Thanks for sharing!!
Just to summarize my thoughts.....
ESO is a GREAT game for the many that enjoy it, not just good. It has the potential to be a VERY great game, but......
It has issues, some very serious. The stability and problems getting into the game are probably the most dangerous and must be solved quickly.
Things are being worked on with mixed results.
Balance and other changes *** many of us off. Some of us leave, some shrug and adapt, some "whatever" and not affected by the change of the moment.
Community is less toxic than others, but there are trolls. Oh well.
Fanboyz are real. Admit you are biased. I am, and I try not to be. It's hard lmao.
We are passionate because we love the game and want it to succeed.
I love PVE and PVP, glad to see they finally had a PVP event. Many enjoyed, even with all the issues.
It will never be perfect.
Later.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Since morrowind and it's pvp came out the game is almost unplayable from pve stand point
1 technical issues lag and disconnects make the game make playing unpleasant
2 Botting has become rampant
3 Gold sellers are mutiplying like rabbits
4 to accommodate PVP players all skills are being nerfed into uselessness in the name of balancing PVP
1. Zos just announced that it has been experiencing a rather persistent DDOS attack and has been working to improve it's defenses against such attacks as a result. Though anything you are experiencing is not directly affected by the addition of BGs for certain.
2. Botting was rampant before Morrowind.
3. Gold sellers are related to botting but also you must be on console which seems to have a rather unique issue with botting, may have more to do with the hosts than Zos since I do not see gold sellers on PC.
4. The Morrowind changes were not PvP centric. Especially the sustain since PvP is more about burst, PvE is more about sustain and the devs specifically commented on PvE sustain when making the changes. Sustain was the biggest change in Morrowind.
Obviously the ping spikes and server crashes are an issue. As for the Morrowind changes, the game is very playable. We play slightly different but our dps, healing and tanking ability is still very solid. DPS has not changed much.
Edited by idk on July 29, 2017 12:09PM1 -
Talon_Draconis✭✭✭Interesting perspectives all over this thread. Nuggets of truth even in opposing viewpoints, IMHO. Thanks for sharing!!
Just to summarize my thoughts.....
ESO is a GREAT game for the many that enjoy it, not just good. It has the potential to be a VERY great game, but......
It has issues, some very serious. The stability and problems getting into the game are probably the most dangerous and must be solved quickly.
Things are being worked on with mixed results.
Balance and other changes *** many of us off. Some of us leave, some shrug and adapt, some "whatever" and not affected by the change of the moment.
Community is less toxic than others, but there are trolls. Oh well.
Fanboyz are real. Admit you are biased. I am, and I try not to be. It's hard lmao.
We are passionate because we love the game and want it to succeed.
I love PVE and PVP, glad to see they finally had a PVP event. Many enjoyed, even with all the issues.
It will never be perfect.
Later.
Like I said I think ESO was the best mmo I have played in a long time.
I was even subed until the shenanigans with the morrwind cash grab but that is another story
Yes the community is very toxic but I state my opinion to improve the game I don't mind diffing opinions and encourage constructive criticism.
I ignore you are stupid etc comments
I do understand why they are changing eso to pvp game.
1. PVP is popular
2. pvp is alot cheaper to add than pve
3. And it is easier to nerf than to buff
That said The shift to pvp is ruining PVE and the main reason I play ESO
As far as the technical issues go pvp takes up alot more system resources and zmax had alot of time to fix it.
And they received ton of cash from morrowind.
I hope they get things fixed because the game in it's present condition is not enjoyable and I am currently useing my game time playing something else
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Kneighbors✭✭✭✭✭I kinda agree with that guy. I hate the new tanking HP sponge style always running low on resources, heavy attacking slowed down my game.
My magsorc transformed from BSW to Necro. From many various attacks and variable gameplay I just went heavy attacking.
I adjusted better than most of you did with all my 8 builds and tons of mats and gold, but I still think the game became much more boring.
Specially for new players, lol, poor fellas. Some are casting only rarely to save resources for buffs, rolls and jumps.0 -
Slack✭✭✭✭✭Sounds like your solo pve setup didn't work in pvp and you got tea bagged 1x too often.
I feel you, when I use a red guard called Mike Tyson and just brawl my way through dungeons it won't make people happy.
Darn pve players.Edited by Slack on July 29, 2017 12:41PMPC EU
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DarkMatter909✭✭✭This sounds like his sky is falling?
I admit the lag in both game modes has been bad of late for me. But i have found because of this event i tried battlegrounds and loved it. I was not a hardcore pvp player but when i did pvp i always had fun and enjoyed the pve break.
This game needs both modes and a way to find the sweet spot between the two.
Chill out, it will get better There are other worlds than these.0 -
Talon_Draconis✭✭✭DarkMatter909 wrote: »This sounds like his sky is falling?
I admit the lag in both game modes has been bad of late for me. But i have found because of this event i tried battlegrounds and loved it. I was not a hardcore pvp player but when i did pvp i always had fun and enjoyed the pve break.
This game needs both modes and a way to find the sweet spot between the two.
Chill out, it will get better
I hope so...not really interested in pvp it tried campaigns was ok but not for me not intressed at all in BGs or duels
I would not mind open pvp but if you pk your own faction you should have negative consequences like being a fugitive
And skills should never be nerfed because they are OP for PVP instead other skills should be buffed to compete
But that would create FOM and complaints from other PVP players
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Bonzodog01✭✭✭✭✭I think the massive balance pass in Update 15 - Horns of the Reach is going to make the game the most balanced its ever been.
They are finally balancing out Mundus Stones and Traits.
Finally, for the first time in this games history, Best in Slot will be very dependent on your playstyle, on what race you are, on how you've placed your skill points.
Every build-type will have at least 4 very viable individual builds, all of which will be as good as each other.
For the first time, you will be able to build as you like and still be competitive.
It will depend heavily on your actual speed and skill as a player, your own abilities to do the math and work out what works for you.
And what works for you will most likely not work for others. We are going to see a lot more individual builds, and not so many copy/paste builds.Xbox One - EU - EP/DCTrying and failing to hold the walls of his Templar house up since 20151 -
JasonSilverSpring✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Interesting perspectives all over this thread. Nuggets of truth even in opposing viewpoints, IMHO. Thanks for sharing!!
Just to summarize my thoughts.....
ESO is a GREAT game for the many that enjoy it, not just good. It has the potential to be a VERY great game, but......
It has issues, some very serious. The stability and problems getting into the game are probably the most dangerous and must be solved quickly.
Things are being worked on with mixed results.
Balance and other changes *** many of us off. Some of us leave, some shrug and adapt, some "whatever" and not affected by the change of the moment.
Community is less toxic than others, but there are trolls. Oh well.
Fanboyz are real. Admit you are biased. I am, and I try not to be. It's hard lmao.
We are passionate because we love the game and want it to succeed.
I love PVE and PVP, glad to see they finally had a PVP event. Many enjoyed, even with all the issues.
It will never be perfect.
Later.
Like I said I think ESO was the best mmo I have played in a long time.
I was even subed until the shenanigans with the morrwind cash grab but that is another story
Yes the community is very toxic but I state my opinion to improve the game I don't mind diffing opinions and encourage constructive criticism.
I ignore you are stupid etc comments
I do understand why they are changing eso to pvp game.
1. PVP is popular
2. pvp is alot cheaper to add than pve
3. And it is easier to nerf than to buff
That said The shift to pvp is ruining PVE and the main reason I play ESO
As far as the technical issues go pvp takes up alot more system resources and zmax had alot of time to fix it.
And they received ton of cash from morrowind.
I hope they get things fixed because the game in it's present condition is not enjoyable and I am currently useing my game time playing something else
How do you conclude they are changing ESO to a PVP game? I don't get the logic. Update 15 is adding new PVE content as well as new PVP content. They have had multiple events for PVE and are already testing the next witches festival on PTS.
I can understand that you don't like balance changes but I don't get the PVP angle.2 -
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✭✭✭✭RainfeatherUK wrote: »Lmao talk about biased agenda. PvE carebears at their finest. Nothing has changed in cuddles land, don't worry.
Vet trails is not cuddles land, I promise you.
This is why PVE players dislike PVP players, you discredit us and treat us as a lower form of gamers.Hoping for more playable races2 -
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Stop it.
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Mazbt✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Since morrowind and it's pvp came out the game is almost unplayable from pve stand point
1 technical issues lag and disconnects make the game make playing unpleasant
2 Botting has become rampant
3 Gold sellers are mutiplying like rabbits
4 to accommodate PVP players all skills are being nerfed into uselessness in the name of balancing PVP
you have it out for pvp it seemsEdited by Mazbt on July 29, 2017 4:01PMMazari the Resurrected (AD)- PVP stamplar main
Maz the Druid - PVP group stam warden
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Talon_Draconis✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Since morrowind and it's pvp came out the game is almost unplayable from pve stand point
1 technical issues lag and disconnects make the game make playing unpleasant
2 Botting has become rampant
3 Gold sellers are mutiplying like rabbits
4 to accommodate PVP players all skills are being nerfed into uselessness in the name of balancing PVP
you have it out for pvp it seems
Most PVP does pvp it's just trying show off but most is cc warriors or no lifers or gold buyers.
PVP that fits in the context of the story like the campaigns is ok but not really interested,
What I don't like is while trying to balance for PVP they nerf any fun skills you use in pve0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Talon_Draconis wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Since morrowind and it's pvp came out the game is almost unplayable from pve stand point
1 technical issues lag and disconnects make the game make playing unpleasant
2 Botting has become rampant
3 Gold sellers are mutiplying like rabbits
4 to accommodate PVP players all skills are being nerfed into uselessness in the name of balancing PVP
you have it out for pvp it seems
Most PVP does pvp it's just trying show off but most is cc warriors or no lifers or gold buyers.
PVP that fits in the context of the story like the campaigns is ok but not really interested,
What I don't like is while trying to balance for PVP they nerf any fun skills you use in pve
Now gold buyers are PvP's fault too?
Unbelievable. smh2 -
Talon_Draconis✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Talon_Draconis wrote: »Since morrowind and it's pvp came out the game is almost unplayable from pve stand point
1 technical issues lag and disconnects make the game make playing unpleasant
2 Botting has become rampant
3 Gold sellers are mutiplying like rabbits
4 to accommodate PVP players all skills are being nerfed into uselessness in the name of balancing PVP
you have it out for pvp it seems
Most PVP does pvp it's just trying show off but most is cc warriors or no lifers or gold buyers.
PVP that fits in the context of the story like the campaigns is ok but not really interested,
What I don't like is while trying to balance for PVP they nerf any fun skills you use in pve
Now gold buyers are PvP's fault too?
Unbelievable. smh
Most gold buyer are PVPer to get ahead and get the FOM build they will buy it rather than LVL or playing the game to get it
PVPer are more often than not interested instant gratification and will do anything including buying gold /items so they can beat the other PVP players0 -
Talon_Draconis✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Oh you are completely trolling now and talking out your arse.
Really?
I said MOST not all
Then why if something is the FOM be it build or gear almost all the pvp either obtain it extremely quickly or if they can't cry nerf!0
