DRXHarbinger wrote: »I think people who paid £40 for that expansion are off there head, my motto is wait and see if it seems worth it when there are question marks over price vs content, will get it one day don't get me wrong but for £20 at the very most.
By that logic anyone that pays over £100 a year for a crafting bag and some extra gold and XP is in dire need of a mental examination...
Not at all, crafting bag is worth a few pound a month to me, saying that I am new to eso plus so my opinion may change but for now, everything you get with that sub seems more than worth it and at the end of the day whether you find it value for your hard earned cash is all that matters.
DRXHarbinger wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »I think people who paid £40 for that expansion are off there head, my motto is wait and see if it seems worth it when there are question marks over price vs content, will get it one day don't get me wrong but for £20 at the very most.
By that logic anyone that pays over £100 a year for a crafting bag and some extra gold and XP is in dire need of a mental examination...
Not at all, crafting bag is worth a few pound a month to me, saying that I am new to eso plus so my opinion may change but for now, everything you get with that sub seems more than worth it and at the end of the day whether you find it value for your hard earned cash is all that matters.
And some people think that Morrowind was was the £40...I think the real underlying issue is here is the pauper player who hates spending £40 here and there but can manage £8pm for a sub...I'd bet a year's wages that 90% of these people pay for their XBL membership monthly rather than the annual and cheaper option too.
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DRXHarbinger wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »I think people who paid £40 for that expansion are off there head, my motto is wait and see if it seems worth it when there are question marks over price vs content, will get it one day don't get me wrong but for £20 at the very most.
By that logic anyone that pays over £100 a year for a crafting bag and some extra gold and XP is in dire need of a mental examination...
Not at all, crafting bag is worth a few pound a month to me, saying that I am new to eso plus so my opinion may change but for now, everything you get with that sub seems more than worth it and at the end of the day whether you find it value for your hard earned cash is all that matters.
And some people think that Morrowind was was the £40...I think the real underlying issue is here is the pauper player who hates spending £40 here and there but can manage £8pm for a sub...I'd bet a year's wages that 90% of these people pay for their XBL membership monthly rather than the annual and cheaper option too.
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You seem mad about something, what's up?
DRXHarbinger wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »I think people who paid £40 for that expansion are off there head, my motto is wait and see if it seems worth it when there are question marks over price vs content, will get it one day don't get me wrong but for £20 at the very most.
By that logic anyone that pays over £100 a year for a crafting bag and some extra gold and XP is in dire need of a mental examination...
Not at all, crafting bag is worth a few pound a month to me, saying that I am new to eso plus so my opinion may change but for now, everything you get with that sub seems more than worth it and at the end of the day whether you find it value for your hard earned cash is all that matters.
And some people think that Morrowind was was the £40...I think the real underlying issue is here is the pauper player who hates spending £40 here and there but can manage £8pm for a sub...I'd bet a year's wages that 90% of these people pay for their XBL membership monthly rather than the annual and cheaper option too.
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You seem mad about something, what's up?
Not at all. I own everything and don't have any issues. Some people just whine and feel too entitled these days feel like £40 is a huge life changing amount of money and they should get the earth for it. Despite it all being advertised what you're getting you still whine over it.
Since I don't really play this game any more, I didn't find out about this till the weekend. At first I thought, finally, they're adding additional content to make that anemic Morrowind worth the investment (the warden started the joke and the battlegrounds were the punchline). You needed Morrowind to play in Cyrodiil? Wow, how original. Broken moral ass company thinks hey lets make people think Morrowind is great by doing things you couldn't do without it before. Like Cyrodiil. Oh, wait. Battlegrounds is why. Of course there is where PvP actually stands for ProcSet versus ProcSet.
I thought we've had this event before now that I think of it. Might be mistaken but I thought we had something similar before Morrowind and now they just added battlegrounds as one possible area where you are just about promised to face off against the proc sets ZoS refuses to address in their search for balance (which proves they aren't hunting really that hard). First, I don't know why they don't have this thing every couple a months. Cyrodiil has long needed attention other than behind the scenes improvements that don't seem to help some (I've never had issue other than the instanta death from a touch a lag as everything in creation kills you aka sorcerer). I'd rather eat 100 wraiths than see my screen fill with the list of all the proc sets they added with maybe even new ones.
So you still won't remove these things (because hey, you kinda like them... screwing over PvP with them is just bonus?), still have lag issues in Cyrodiil and still can't find a way Morrowind was worth half its costs. I guess you really can sell nostalgia and the fools will beg to pay you. You just moved on, ready for the next dip into wallets. So my time away has been even more proof there's nothing ever gonna change with ZoS or the devs. No value. No idea how to fix things. No desire to fix things it turns out.
At least I got one good fight in Cyrodiil. Never seen so many elves pour from a keep. It reminded me of when I loved this game. I appreciate that in the divorce, it got to keep ZoS. I hope they never touch another product I may be interested in. Guess we'll check back in a few months to see if they keep down this road... and please ZoS, do us a favor and replace your dev team.... and crown store. Both have done nothing but destroyed this game bit by bit over the past year.
I stopped reading after partway the first paragraph. You are projecting too much anger, due your inability to read right.
You are misinformed. You dont need to pay 40 bucks to play Cyrodiil, just to play battlegrounds. Cyrodiil is in the base game. While Midyear Mayhem can happen in either, you dont need Morrowind to participate, just the base game.
ComboBreaker88 wrote: »Since I don't really play this game any more, I didn't find out about this till the weekend. At first I thought, finally, they're adding additional content to make that anemic Morrowind worth the investment (the warden started the joke and the battlegrounds were the punchline). You needed Morrowind to play in Cyrodiil? Wow, how original. Broken moral ass company thinks hey lets make people think Morrowind is great by doing things you couldn't do without it before. Like Cyrodiil. Oh, wait. Battlegrounds is why. Of course there is where PvP actually stands for ProcSet versus ProcSet.
I thought we've had this event before now that I think of it. Might be mistaken but I thought we had something similar before Morrowind and now they just added battlegrounds as one possible area where you are just about promised to face off against the proc sets ZoS refuses to address in their search for balance (which proves they aren't hunting really that hard). First, I don't know why they don't have this thing every couple a months. Cyrodiil has long needed attention other than behind the scenes improvements that don't seem to help some (I've never had issue other than the instanta death from a touch a lag as everything in creation kills you aka sorcerer). I'd rather eat 100 wraiths than see my screen fill with the list of all the proc sets they added with maybe even new ones.
So you still won't remove these things (because hey, you kinda like them... screwing over PvP with them is just bonus?), still have lag issues in Cyrodiil and still can't find a way Morrowind was worth half its costs. I guess you really can sell nostalgia and the fools will beg to pay you. You just moved on, ready for the next dip into wallets. So my time away has been even more proof there's nothing ever gonna change with ZoS or the devs. No value. No idea how to fix things. No desire to fix things it turns out.
At least I got one good fight in Cyrodiil. Never seen so many elves pour from a keep. It reminded me of when I loved this game. I appreciate that in the divorce, it got to keep ZoS. I hope they never touch another product I may be interested in. Guess we'll check back in a few months to see if they keep down this road... and please ZoS, do us a favor and replace your dev team.... and crown store. Both have done nothing but destroyed this game bit by bit over the past year.
I stopped reading after partway the first paragraph. You are projecting too much anger, due your inability to read right.
You are misinformed. You dont need to pay 40 bucks to play Cyrodiil, just to play battlegrounds. Cyrodiil is in the base game. While Midyear Mayhem can happen in either, you dont need Morrowind to participate, just the base game.
You do need morrowwind to do battle grounds. And you also need imperial city to capture a district. So yes. The achievement is locked behind a paywall.
You only need to Morrowind if you want the achievement. But if you cared that much you would have Morrowind anyway because you'd want those achievements.
So not sure what the issue is to be frank. Know when little kids cry and an adult says "Hey buddy, what's the matter?" and the kid legit doesn't know.
Or when your dog barks and there's nothing there?
That's OP.
So much entitlement, too many people wanting to be able to do everything in the game while only being prepared to pay for part of it.
My first mistake was trusting ZOS. I knew it deep down but I still fell for it. It just galled me that people are expected to pay for that crap expansion/chapter whatever you want to call it for achievements mostly set in the base game. Why are these expansions and DLCs being used this way? You should buy the expansion because you want to. Not because your achievements aren't going to complete (meaning some will be locked out even though nothing really ties to these things). And still not gotten the campaigns working correctly. My little bit was fine but it was late morning/early afternoon and still had a wait to get in. But if you are going to try underhanded methods, what's so bad about treating them right and making them worthwhile to own. There's nothing in Morrowind after you finish it to ever see it again. Nothing. It should be a cheap DLC. But all the Morrowind fanatics gave them the idea that charging more for this could work out. And they ate it up like its some great creation no one ever could have imagined. Its crap. The story is so short you'd think you missed the middle and if you take them all together, they don't even fit. Who the heck edited the actual expansion out?
And this entitled business. Yes, I expect certain things for $40. Like a new game (newish). There is less in Morrowind than the starting areas we all have available in the base game. Just that area. How many delves did you see for instance? Where is the rest of this thing? If wanting what I paid for means I'm entitled then you ZOS donors (cause I can't think of what anyone who gives money away to a company is since it shouldn't exist) can just chuckle about how big a person you are. It still makes no sense to treat a company like a child.
Stopnaggin wrote: »So you didn't enjoy Morrow in for what it is. That's fine. But I can see them adding more to it in later dlc. You seem to assume everyone sees the Chapter as you do. Value is to subjective to make that assumption. Some bought it for BG, some for the Warden class and some just because it was Morrowind. Some will be dissatisfied with it, the same as spending $60 on a game that was complete trash, looking at you Destiny.
DRXHarbinger wrote: »I think people who paid £40 for that expansion are off there head, my motto is wait and see if it seems worth it when there are question marks over price vs content, will get it one day don't get me wrong but for £20 at the very most.
By that logic anyone that pays over £100 a year for a crafting bag and some extra gold and XP is in dire need of a mental examination...
nothing
and nothing about MW was worth 40$
Doesnt matter what the money spent is, if the service is poor and the product is poor then generally your money was wasted. Some people call it whining but if 100 people spent the same amount of money on a product each opinion is as valid as the next.
ZoS track record of releasing content that is untested, exploited, then band aid patched, same issue then reappears next 'update', is uncontested.
Like Morrowind where the sell was a new PvP format finally after 3 years and it was broke as ***. Released content that had zero chance of working. Also the split on a Chapter and DLC lost a lot of players, not because of the cost i think but how ZoS went about it being greasy as ***. This was done to target the achievement hunters and the people who subbed for a short time, to complete the new content in ~1-2 days then never go back. I havent been to Hews bane or Gold coast since completing the achievements.
Upcoming PvP event?. Lets close 3 PvP campaign servers (EbonyBlade/SpellBreaker/Haderus) - Whoever had that idea should be sacked. To re-instate Haderus before the event just reinforced there was an error made.
-Event starts. Pop-locked madness. Bought Imperial City DLC?, time to wait hours to play it sucker. Tried to get achievement?, its broke suckers. Now wait your turn to be zerged!. Zos adds 1 more PvP campaign then adds another and another?. All this is fire fighting a mistake that was originally made.
I didn't see 1 post where any player said, Hey ZoS we have too many pvp campaigns, please close down 60% of them. Dumb as ***. So ZoS closes them thus reducing the service they offer but for the same money?, haha
I like the content. I like ESO series. I like the Art and Design. I like the voice overs.
I dont like ZoS incompetent attitude towards cheating. Suspending cheaters for 3 days is encouraging it.
I don't like ZoS incompetent attitude towards not being in touch on the forums, especially the Cheating and Exploiting Thread where many players come for guidance, even tagging ZoS 'employees' with questions, only to be ignored for ~1 YEAR.
Cheat Engine is still rampant in ESO. Exploiting certain aspects is still open after a long time. Addons like Miats and auto cleanse etc that break the ToS is still being used because ZoS took the cheap way out and didnt invest in addons/part of the game, opened the API and people took advantage over ZoS ignorance for years and still on going.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom (Sub is cancelled months ago and above are the core reasons why i will advise and stay away from any product ZoS is tied with.)
Man, some are you are down right.... well, mom said if you can't say anything nice... mom was wrong... ignorant.
First don't tell me you didn't read the whole thing but those that really didn't, I love how you went on about how I took something wrong because I didn't read or lack mental skills or temperment. [snip]
Forgetting all that. I think this is an example of having to own Morrowind in order to do nothing related to it. Sort of like the battlegrounds themselves. But mainly its that its just over and done. Here's you ticket, next, next!
Another is Cyrodiil. There's interest. And you show that with the event which probably should be monthly or bi-monthly. But again, if the rewards look like something the crown store supplier can do then sure, they can do that. Making Cyrodiil some where people want to go to is just out of reach. I avoided it for months before I went in myself because of the scary nightblades and other mean gankers. Thank goodness ZoS took care of those in one fell swoop. Because their awesome and high damage isn't fair for others. That's why any class capable is no longer capable and no that is not a sorcerer behind the tree they have been removed.
So now Horns of the Reach is coming out. My favorite kind of DLC. The kind I didn't even buy with my monthly crowns back when this game was some what decent. And still the question remains, why would people pay for content that should be a given especially since we just got through paying for an "expansion". Cyrodiil. Craglorn. For the mother of god the place was Vvardenfell and it had hundreds of possible dungeons you didn't finish so finish them already!
And this crap with requiring achievements to own things that don't have anything to do with each other. Of course I didn't get them and didn't try. I only played up till we lost the attack on that keep. I did say I all but have quit. Like I said, back when the game was decent, this was normal. And poster above, I know that peace is a lie and there is only passion. I think I broke my chains back in January. I do like coming back to the forums every now and then. I did used to log into the game to feed my horse. Once that was done, its just been the forums. Now this is the first time in a week or two. I dunno. Daily to whenever I remember what that icon stands for on the desktop.. But I'm doing my part. Whenever the chance comes, I throw ESO under the bus. And so many different ways to do it thanks to ZOS. Maybe I'll check back before the next ZoScam. See how many of you guys still have your wings.
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BlazingDynamo wrote: »I didn't know we paid $40 dollars for the event?
Not sure what happened to you but I'm pretty sure it was free for me..
