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What is the most effective race for an end game PvE Stamina Sorcerer?
Bobby_V_Rockit
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With all the recent changes to traits, passives, nerfs and buffs as well as the upcoming ones, what does the community feel the best Stamina Sorcerer DPS race is for end-game PvE?
Edited by Bobby_V_Rockit on July 26, 2017 12:38PM What is the most effective race for an end game PvE Stamina Sorcerer? 85 votes
Khajiit
24%
21 votes
Bosmer
1%
1 vote
Redguard
54%
46 votes
Nord
1%
1 vote
Imperial
3%
3 votes
Orc
11%
10 votes
Dunmer
1%
1 vote
Breton
0%
Altmer
1%
1 vote
Argonian
1%
1 vote
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Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Highest damage: Khajiit
Highest HP without losing damage: Imperial
Highest sustain: Redguard
Balanced tankiness / damage but no sustain: Orc
Difference between all 4 is minimal, and some will be better in there specific niche and for different players.PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
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bebynnag✭✭✭✭✭
✭KhajiitHurricane looks better on the furry ones
also healing from surge is awesome2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭RedguardRedguard all day. The only other option I would frankly consider is Khajiit. They have the potential for slightly more DPS in a really good raid group. My Stam Sorc was khajiit, but I made the switch. No way I would go back. I frankly could not tell the difference in damage, and the sustain was night and day. I also believe that Redguard is far superior to Khajiit in every scenario that is not a finely tuned raid group.
Unless all you plan to do is run trials in a very competitive trial group, redguard is the better choice.4 -
Bobby_V_Rockit✭✭✭✭✭
✭KhajiitWent from Khajiit to Redguard. The difference in sustain is night and day, damage wise seems no different.0 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭RedguardRedguard is better in every way...especially with the changes to max stat values Khajit is not as valuable. The dps difference between the two in an optimized raid is less than 1% mathematically, however in a real world scenario the dps will nearly always be lower on a khajit. More heavy attacks for regen means less flexibility in rotations and less stam for dodgerolls, blocks and etc. So unless you count your dps on Valariel where you can literally be braindead and still parse well in all other scenarios Redguard will crush Khajit (nightblades may be the only exception)2 -
Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭KhajiitKhajiit, so that you can look awesome while killing enemies (also: crit and stam regen are nothing to sneeze at).PC-EU0 -
Tito86✭✭✭RedguardChoose between Redguard and Khajit. I prefer Redguards for better sustain,I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow to the knee.0
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✭✭RedguardKhajit has the most straight up damage, never the less Redguard can outperform it since your increased sustain can allow for a more efficient rotation. Really depends on build and situation, but I personally think Redguard is the safer bet.EU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)0 -
Septimus_Magna✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭KhajiitSelf-healing > Khajiit
Stamina sustain > Redguard
Dmg roughly the samePC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
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Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer0 -
Flameheart✭✭✭✭✭RedguardRedguard every day...so sweet and juicy sustain.
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Selissi - CP 1k+ Redguard Stamina Nightblade (Ebonheart Pact)
Silmerel - CP 1k+ Breton Magicka Templar (Ebonheart Pact)
Sunja - CP 1k+ Dunmer Magicka Nightblade (Ebonheart Pact)
Suldreni - CP 1k+ Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight (Ebonheart Pact)
Sulhelka - CP 1k+ Altmer Magicka Sorcerer (Ebonheart Pact)
Sylundine - CP 1k+ Breton Magicka Warden (Ebonheart Pact)1 -
kaorunandrak✭✭✭RedguardRedguard win's in all aspects here, which has been and always will be a problem in game for stamina users as the race over performs versus all others. You want to know why they made the resources changes with morrowind? Go find any pre morrowind stamina DK video using a redguard in either PVE or PVP, infinite resources. Redguards are the best even with the morrowind nerfs this is a simple fact of life until ZOS makes proper changes to address the disparity between races.
Personally I play Nord in spite of this fact simply because I have loved the race through out the other games and I hate playing "META" and "FOTM" characters. I enjoy making my own builds and making them work for me and my group however, NOT choosing redguard as your stamina characters race IS the same as taking a shotgun and blowing your foot off that is a FACT.Guild Leader of The Crimson Moon PVE/PVP NA
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Animal_Mother✭✭✭✭BosmerBosmer is probably the closest alternative to Redguard in sustain (and may surpass them if you were to go WW) and brings poison/disease resist and stealth to the table, if you were to dabble in PVP or just plain steal stuff.0
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getemshauna✭✭✭✭✭Redguardhedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Redguard is better in every way...especially with the changes to max stat values Khajit is not as valuable. The dps difference between the two in an optimized raid is less than 1% mathematically, however in a real world scenario the dps will nearly always be lower on a khajit. More heavy attacks for regen means less flexibility in rotations and less stam for dodgerolls, blocks and etc. So unless you count your dps on Valariel where you can literally be braindead and still parse well in all other scenarios Redguard will crush Khajit (nightblades may be the only exception)
Well said. I need to add that I was testing Redguard vs Khajit on stamblade, and even in that case RG wins.Founder of Call of the Undaunted
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hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Redguardgethemshauna wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Redguard is better in every way...especially with the changes to max stat values Khajit is not as valuable. The dps difference between the two in an optimized raid is less than 1% mathematically, however in a real world scenario the dps will nearly always be lower on a khajit. More heavy attacks for regen means less flexibility in rotations and less stam for dodgerolls, blocks and etc. So unless you count your dps on Valariel where you can literally be braindead and still parse well in all other scenarios Redguard will crush Khajit (nightblades may be the only exception)
Well said. I need to add that I was testing Redguard vs Khajit on stamblade, and even in that case RG wins.
Completely agree...i was so surprised to find that to be honest.1 -
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✭✭✭✭KhajiitEveryone and their grandma has a Redguard stam build."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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Belegnole✭✭✭✭✭RedguardBest for min /max, Redguard. Best otherwise, is up to you. Aesthetically I might choose something else. But, I happen to have a dainty Redguard girl with a two handed sword.....0
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Patouf✭✭✭KhajiitKhajiit if you use heavy attack instead of rapid strikes.
Imperial is the best if you have no trouble with stam regen with rapid strikes.
Redguard best if you have issue with your stamina recovery.
But overall, Khajiit is in theory the best specially next patch with shadow mundus... it is about 0.5% and 1.5% more dps than redguard. Finally, they are equal, don't you think ?Edited by Patouf on August 14, 2017 8:41AMRuined Laggy Broken GameSithis & Psijic OrderSithis and spacetime. From nothing to everything.Dark, Aurbis, Aetherius-Oblivion, Mundus, Nirn, Tamriel. Dark again, something else.Dark is categorical, the absolute zero.VØID0 -
Honghua✭✭✭Bosmer has the highest stamina sustain in the game after 3.0.0 patch.
If you consider getting sustain regen passives and etc you can surpass reguard sustain by 10%.Edited by Honghua on August 14, 2017 11:43AM0 -
cschwingeb14_ESO✭✭✭✭KhajiitKhajiit if you plan on wearing troll king, but that's not really for end game pveEdited by cschwingeb14_ESO on August 14, 2017 8:04PM0
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✭KhajiitHow about now after Horns of the Reach? That crit nerf and stam buffs make Redguard less appealing and Khajiit more enticing...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭KhajiitKhajiit = truly best DPS output
If you are not good enough to sustain it (or group makes it too tough to sustain) then Redguard for easier sutain. Either way the DPS difference will not be huge anyway. Choose what you like.
I'd recommend Khajiit, though mainly because..... they're Khajiits
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