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Elemental drain broken..

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So, elemental drain the minor magickasteal only works for the actual caster now. Well done ZoS. Can you please stop breaking absolutely everything? It's bad enough that magicka is far behind in balance terms, but now you break our regen aswell. Thanks!

Can easily be tested by having a friend using elemental drain, you drain your magicka, you do damage / light attacks to the target, then check combat metrics for minor magickasteal.
Get your s**t together seriously.
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    Enraging. ZOS pls fix your game!
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  • MrBetadine
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    i read somewhere it's the addon that bugged
  • exeeter702
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    Ele drain works.....
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Alcast wrote: »
    GOD *** DAMNIT WHY THE *** ALWAYS REINTRODUCE BUGS

    Can't ever say that I've seen @Alcast visibly ticked off with ZOS before. I suppose it's a first time for everything. Regardless, way to go ZOS. You've not only made @Deltia and @FENGRUSH mad in the past. All players who make fantastic guides, and are excellent players in their own rights. But now you've gone ahead and made Alcast angry. Genius. Absolutely genius. /sarcasm
    [snip]

    Dude, I highly doubt it. I just made a thread about 2 extremely severe bugs. The first being that players can still gap-close into keeps, and that "CC Immunity" is bugged. On neither threads have @ZOS_BrianWheeler @Wrobel or @ZOS_RichLambert made comments. Not even Gina or Jessica has responded either. In fact, I even PM'd Brian about it and supplied 2 videos of the gap-closing issue. He still has yet to take a few seconds to follow it up.

    I think it's honestly safe to say that the only department and or team that is doing well, is art and cosmetics. The people in charge of: Costumes, decorations, houses, mounts, zone design, etc. Because clearly the people in charge of: Balance, PvP, dungeons and trials, RNG of loot tables, QA testing, retention, etc. are all missing the mark dramatically. And I'm not even talking about having a few issues here and there, causing me to make these claims and exaggerate things. N'ah bruh. Things are legit broken. Stuff from beta and before console got their hands on ESO still existing as of late-July 2017. So yes. Major problems are at hand on more than 1 scale.

    [Edited for removed quoted comment]
    Edited by ZOS_Bill on July 25, 2017 9:04PM
  • Love Wizard
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    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Ele drain works.....

    It's bugged. We've done fights for the past hour without elemenetal drain and our regeneration is even HIGHER. There is NO minor magicka steal active from elemenetal drain.
    MrBetadine wrote: »
    i read somewhere it's the addon that bugged

    Doesn't seem like it. We barely notice any difference with or without elemental drain, without is actually ever so slightly better.

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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno Do you mind looking into why it is that CC immunity has disappeared in both PvE and PvP? Or is that not as important as this? :|
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    Easy way to test is to equip an ice staff, throw down some DoTs, then block. If you're getting back magicka it works.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno Do you mind looking into why it is that CC immunity has disappeared in both PvE and PvP? Or is that not as important as this? :|

    Yep, making some rotations to various threads now. ;)
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  • casparian
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    Alcast wrote: »
    GOD *** DAMNIT WHY THE *** ALWAYS REINTRODUCE BUGS

    Oh crap, now they broke Alcast.
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  • idk
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    There is a simple work around. All magika users carry their own dps drain.

    Geez, do I need to figure out all the answers?

    Zos hire me. I can do da spin. I mean, I can find a fix for everything that breaks, except Cyrodiil.
  • exeeter702
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    exeeter702 wrote: »
    Ele drain works.....

    It's bugged. We've done fights for the past hour without elemenetal drain and our regeneration is even HIGHER. There is NO minor magicka steal active from elemenetal drain.
    MrBetadine wrote: »
    i read somewhere it's the addon that bugged

    Doesn't seem like it. We barely notice any difference with or without elemental drain, without is actually ever so slightly better.

    Its not bugged. Your addon is bugged. Doesnt matter how you "feel", the ability is working.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    There is a simple work around. All magika users carry their own dps drain.

    Geez, do I need to figure out all the answers?

    Zos hire me. I can do da spin. I mean, I can find a fix for everything that breaks, except Cyrodiil.

    If you will implement a token system to Maelstrom Arena, and introduce a "smart loot" system to combat the atrocious RNG? You have my vote. I'll fight for you to be hired night and day, and even put my support for you becoming a staff member in my signature. Lol.
  • Love Wizard
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    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    Sure enough, it seems to work on a plain skeleton, but there's something that causes it to not working as intended. I tried doing two skeletons, one without, and one with where the one with I manged to sustain until 27% until I ran out, and where I had elemental drain, I had no issues. So in the theory, sure it works. HOWEVER, when we get into an actual raid enviorement, there is something that causes it to get overwritten. (No it's not puncture, *** off na)

    There is something that causes it, and I have no clue what it is.
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    Oh, nice. So us console players get to look forward to recieving this patch that will break Ele Drain and essentially ruin raiding until the eventual delayed console fix? Lovely.

    This really better be a UI error on PC add-ons only. If not it will make trials impossible for all of the groups that aren't #1 on the leaderboard. Judging by how many people are saying it is not UI-only, I am finding it hard to believe right now that the skill is still functioning as intended. Also Radiant Aura is still bugged regardless. Would like that to actually be fixed too.

    We are supposed to look forward to updates, not dread their arrival. If a bug-fixing patch arrives, what exactly is the point if it breaks important stuff in the process and proceeds to have the bugs it fixed rebroken in the next patch, all while wasting time and resources? ESO is the only game I have ever played where I feel a patch can arrive that causes the game to get worse and more unstable rather than better.
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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    Oh my god.


    Is this legitimate?

    @Ch4mpTW


    Lool nvm saw your post in here too xD
    Edited by Nelson_Rebel on July 25, 2017 9:36PM
  • Nelson_Rebel
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno Do you mind looking into why it is that CC immunity has disappeared in both PvE and PvP? Or is that not as important as this? :|

    Yep, making some rotations to various threads now. ;)

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  • YoloWizard
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    It does work, it just can not be tracked by other players (the Magicka return ticks)

    But since we are at the subject of bugs, PLEASE FIX THE SYNERGY CLUSTERF***. Holly molly this bugs existed since Thieves guild and still not getting any interest. THE WHOLE ABILITY SYNERGY SYSTEM is busted to the max level, it is frustrating asking our supports to throw some Orbs so we can use them and while you are attacking it pops up and you get so happy, the moment you press X to synergies it just vanishes, like why?!! Same thing with almost every single ability synergy in this game apart from Purify which I believe works reliably but only because it has a proc condition (being affected by negative ability) afaik.

    Please please please for the love of god do something! if you cant fix it np just revert the change that casued it! But you fixed HOF 2nd boss synergy button upstairs so why not do the same with the whole thing @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • Love Wizard
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    YoloWizard wrote: »
    It does work, it just can not be tracked by other players (the Magicka return ticks)

    But since we are at the subject of bugs, PLEASE FIX THE SYNERGY CLUSTERF***. Holly molly this bugs existed since Thieves guild and still not getting any interest. THE WHOLE ABILITY SYNERGY SYSTEM is busted to the max level, it is frustrating asking our supports to throw some Orbs so we can use them and while you are attacking it pops up and you get so happy, the moment you press X to synergies it just vanishes, like why?!! Same thing with almost every single ability synergy in this game apart from Purify which I believe works reliably but only because it has a proc condition (being affected by negative ability) afaik.

    Please please please for the love of god do something! if you cant fix it np just revert the change that casued it! But you fixed HOF 2nd boss synergy button upstairs so why not do the same with the whole thing @ZOS_GinaBruno

    You're asking for alot here yolo.
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  • Coilbox
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    So, elemental drain the minor magickasteal only works for the actual caster now. Well done ZoS. Can you please stop breaking absolutely everything? It's bad enough that magicka is far behind in balance terms, but now you break our regen aswell. Thanks!

    Can easily be tested by having a friend using elemental drain, you drain your magicka, you do damage / light attacks to the target, then check combat metrics for minor magickasteal.
    Get your s**t together seriously.

    Like... such a polite manner to address a problem to the Devs not even checking if it's your stupid addon *** up everything... xD

    But what really made me laugh was the 'It's bad enough that magicka is far behind in balance terms' seriously, im still rolling on the floor, you are killing me dude :smiley:
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  • Feanor
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno Do you mind looking into why it is that CC immunity has disappeared in both PvE and PvP? Or is that not as important as this? :|

    Yep, making some rotations to various threads now. ;)

    I don't believe people at ZOS use rotations. ;)
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  • Krayzie
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno Do you mind looking into why it is that CC immunity has disappeared in both PvE and PvP? Or is that not as important as this? :|

    Yep, making some rotations to various threads now. ;)

    While you're doing your rounds could you check out the weapon dye thread? I know it's been about the zillionith one by now and some Quality of life threads have been ignored

    What a waste of time
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  • Solinur
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    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    Hey I'm going to check today, but from the answers I'd suspect that the EVENT_COMBAT_EVENT with the parameter result = ACTION_RESULT_POWER_ENERGIZE is not firing anymore when someone else applied Elemental Drain. This would cause all the addons (like my Combat Metrics) that watch these events to simply not recognize it at all even if it is actually applied. If so I'd consider it an API bug. I probably could make a crude workaround for that, but lets see.
    Edited by Solinur on July 26, 2017 2:43PM
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  • Solinur
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    Solinur wrote: »
    This issue was mentioned the other day in this thread, and it was reported that the LUI Extended and Combat Metrics addons were causing this to appear broken. We just double checked real quick and the ability does appear to still work properly (without using addons). We'll continue to dig just in case, but in the meantime, try disabling addons and check again?

    Hey I'm going to check today, but from the answers I'd suspect that the EVENT_COMBAT_EVENT with the parameter result = ACTION_RESULT_POWER_ENERGIZE is not firing anymore when someone else applied Elemental Drain. This would cause all the addons (like my Combat Metrics) that watch these events to simply not recognize it at all even if it is actually applied. If so I'd consider it an API bug. I probably could make a crude workaround for that, but lets see.

    I can confirm this now @ZOS_GinaBruno. The API event isn't showing the tick of regenerating if Elemental Drain is cast by someone else. The Magicka is actually returned though. So I hope this is considered a bug and fixed soon.

    Edit: Since this is mostly an API bug I also posted this on the ESOUI forums
    Edited by Solinur on July 26, 2017 9:56PM
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  • Vizikul
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    It's bad enough that magicka is far behind in balance terms, but now you break our regen aswell.

    What are you talking about? Magicka is superior to stamina. Especially because there is no such thing as a stamina steal spell.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Thanks, @Solinur! Passing this info along to the team to take a look.
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  • WeylandLabs
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    And the verdict @ZOS_GinaBruno is ?

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