Unfadingsilence wrote: »PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....
That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?
You're looking at it all wrong.
It's not about the price but rather the power.
The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.
Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.
They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.
I am discussing facts and nothing else.
PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.
IronCrystal wrote: »Let the leaderboards decide.
Truly the only thing you could even close to consider a comparison between platforms. And if console plebs plead the lack of addons, what makes you think the best of the best need addons?
phaneub17_ESO wrote: »I recently took up playing ESO with a gamepad after suffering a shoulder injury, and I am loving it. It did take a week of trial and error with button mapping I think I got it down to how I want it. Are console players stuck with the 3 templates or do you have button keybind mapping too? I am still using Srendarr Buffs, Azurah HUD, Skyshards, Lorebooks, and Lost Treasure though; can't play without them, just can't.
I dunno, not played pc just play with standard buttons on console but I'm really interested to know why pc player think we get it easy.
Maybe we do, maybe there salty we paid a couple hundred to enjoy the game they paid like 800, be interesting to read replies.
Unfadingsilence wrote: »PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....
Didn't buy prebuilt.That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?
You're looking at it all wrong.
It's not about the price but rather the power.
The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.
Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.
They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.
I am discussing facts and nothing else.
PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.
I usually like to argue about which one is better.....
As for which one takes more skill, I don't think that can be said definitively.
For example I have friends on PC who play with a controller who are some of the best players I know. Does that count as PC or console because they're using a console controller?
I don't think it's a worthwhile argument or something that can really be proven.
Add ons are not considered an advantage, either, they are for QoL. They are designed to not give unfair advantages (they don't).
phaneub17_ESO wrote: »I recently took up playing ESO with a gamepad after suffering a shoulder injury, and I am loving it. It did take a week of trial and error with button mapping I think I got it down to how I want it. Are console players stuck with the 3 templates or do you have button keybind mapping too? I am still using Srendarr Buffs, Azurah HUD, Skyshards, Lorebooks, and Lost Treasure though; can't play without them, just can't.
I dunno, not played pc just play with standard buttons on console but I'm really interested to know why pc player think we get it easy.
Maybe we do, maybe there salty we paid a couple hundred to enjoy the game they paid like 800, be interesting to read replies.
Who said Console players get it easy? The reason why people say "pc master race" isn't because they think you get it easy. They think consoles are peasants picking up the scraps left after the pc players are done. I have yet to see someone claim console was "easy". Less maintenance? yes. More immature? Probably. There *may* be more multitasking when playing on pc than what is perceived as "mindlessness" while playing console.
Unfadingsilence wrote: »PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....
Didn't buy prebuilt.That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?
You're looking at it all wrong.
It's not about the price but rather the power.
The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.
Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.
They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.
I am discussing facts and nothing else.
PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.
I usually like to argue about which one is better.....
As for which one takes more skill, I don't think that can be said definitively.
For example I have friends on PC who play with a controller who are some of the best players I know. Does that count as PC or console because they're using a console controller?
I don't think it's a worthwhile argument or something that can really be proven.
Add ons are not considered an advantage, either, they are for QoL. They are designed to not give unfair advantages (they don't).
If on PC using controller with no addons macros etc. and is basically console enviroment then yeah, put them in console category and if they are some of the best you know facing pc players maybe that says console players are more skilled than pc.
Unfadingsilence wrote: »PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....
Didn't buy prebuilt.That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?
You're looking at it all wrong.
It's not about the price but rather the power.
The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.
Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.
They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.
I am discussing facts and nothing else.
PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.
I usually like to argue about which one is better.....
As for which one takes more skill, I don't think that can be said definitively.
For example I have friends on PC who play with a controller who are some of the best players I know. Does that count as PC or console because they're using a console controller?
I don't think it's a worthwhile argument or something that can really be proven.
Add ons are not considered an advantage, either, they are for QoL. They are designed to not give unfair advantages (they don't).
If on PC using controller with no addons macros etc. and is basically console enviroment then yeah, put them in console category and if they are some of the best you know facing pc players maybe that says console players are more skilled than pc.
I see A LOT of digs from pc players at console players for reasons I don't understand, here is what I think....
[1] PC players surely get it easier, players are generally older so slower reaction times etc. [2]players basically auto piliot with addons , skill gap must be very narrow due to all the help.
Console must have much bigger skill gap, best excel since nothings auto better on that pad quicker reaction times you win.
That is all I have, would like to have this not be closed and have some reasonable sensible input from both sides for an awesome read and awesome thread without insulting one another, lets go and don't give mods a reason to close the thread.
I see A LOT of digs from pc players at console players for reasons I don't understand, here is what I think....
[1] PC players surely get it easier, players are generally older so slower reaction times etc. [2]players basically auto piliot with addons , skill gap must be very narrow due to all the help.
Console must have much bigger skill gap, best excel since nothings auto better on that pad quicker reaction times you win.
That is all I have, would like to have this not be closed and have some reasonable sensible input from both sides for an awesome read and awesome thread without insulting one another, lets go and don't give mods a reason to close the thread.
1. PC probably has the highest average age, but it also has the most players so still the most young players. Also noting the fact that age really doesn't matter, there are plenty of quick older people and sluggish younger people.
2. Such addons are against the TOS, so no. PC has more tools to help them get better, such as dps meters, but addons can't fight for you in any way (legally).
Not sure why you bothered writing this post if those are the only two things you could come up with... (aka "you're old!" and "you're a cheater!" QQ)
Unfadingsilence wrote: »PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....
Didn't buy prebuilt.That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?
You're looking at it all wrong.
It's not about the price but rather the power.
The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.
Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.
They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.
I am discussing facts and nothing else.
PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.
I usually like to argue about which one is better.....
As for which one takes more skill, I don't think that can be said definitively.
For example I have friends on PC who play with a controller who are some of the best players I know. Does that count as PC or console because they're using a console controller?
I don't think it's a worthwhile argument or something that can really be proven.
Add ons are not considered an advantage, either, they are for QoL. They are designed to not give unfair advantages (they don't).
If on PC using controller with no addons macros etc. and is basically console enviroment then yeah, put them in console category and if they are some of the best you know facing pc players maybe that says console players are more skilled than pc.
Unfadingsilence wrote: »PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....
Didn't buy prebuilt.That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?
You're looking at it all wrong.
It's not about the price but rather the power.
The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.
Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.
They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.
I am discussing facts and nothing else.
PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.
I usually like to argue about which one is better.....
As for which one takes more skill, I don't think that can be said definitively.
For example I have friends on PC who play with a controller who are some of the best players I know. Does that count as PC or console because they're using a console controller?
I don't think it's a worthwhile argument or something that can really be proven.
Add ons are not considered an advantage, either, they are for QoL. They are designed to not give unfair advantages (they don't).
If on PC using controller with no addons macros etc. and is basically console enviroment then yeah, put them in console category and if they are some of the best you know facing pc players maybe that says console players are more skilled than pc.
No, to me it doesn't say that at all.
It's not a worthwhile argument. Can't be proven.
Unfadingsilence wrote: »PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....
Didn't buy prebuilt.That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.
Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it
Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.
Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.
If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?
You're looking at it all wrong.
It's not about the price but rather the power.
The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.
Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.
They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.
I am discussing facts and nothing else.
PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.
I usually like to argue about which one is better.....
As for which one takes more skill, I don't think that can be said definitively.
For example I have friends on PC who play with a controller who are some of the best players I know. Does that count as PC or console because they're using a console controller?
I don't think it's a worthwhile argument or something that can really be proven.
Add ons are not considered an advantage, either, they are for QoL. They are designed to not give unfair advantages (they don't).
If on PC using controller with no addons macros etc. and is basically console enviroment then yeah, put them in console category and if they are some of the best you know facing pc players maybe that says console players are more skilled than pc.
No, to me it doesn't say that at all.
It's not a worthwhile argument. Can't be proven.
What does that even mean? I'm just stating facts, you already said console reqires more skil in the very first post and that's clearly your opinion. Why bother answering that?
That's like me asking what race is best then going on about how awesome khajiits are and calling all other races ugly and weak.
wtlonewolf20 wrote: »Well we wont truly know which oone is better until they allow cross platform play. But really they all require some type of skill.
Personally I prefer gaming and ESO on PC because:
1) Patches and fixes are deployed here first
2) PTS
3) I like hot keys and don't like menus
4) Mobility, i can play my laptop anywhere and i dont need to hook it up to something other than wifi
5) addons
6) i can play with a MMO mouse which expands my mapping options
7) I needed a PC for work/school and couldn't afford to have that AND a console
8) I pay for internet connection, so I shouldn't have to pay an additional service fee to connect to it
9) Steam Sales
10) I can have as many as 3 screens connected to my PC at one time, so I can multitask while playing.
It's not what you prefer, it's what takes more skill.
I'm coop500 in game too, FYI.
And stop saying PC players like we all do it, only the noisy minority do it, the rest of us don't give a darn if you use mud and sticks or gold bars and chocolate to play.
But oh GOD please don't have PC and console players on the same server, from what I am reading here PC players will be quickly villianized for cheating and having the easy way. (And the spam of nerf PC player threads.)
So far I'm mainly seeing console players look down at PC players for us having it 'too easy'
Since I was roped into this anyway, I feel the need to point out something EVERYONE here is neglecting. Not speaking for controller PC players, but for Keyboard and Mouse, it's extremely easy to lose track of where your fingers are and hit the wrong key, this requires SKILL to avoid, prevent and recover quickly from if done.
You can die easy with just one wrong keyboard press, as it can mess up your entire rotation. Consoles have less buttons so to me seems like this will happen much less.
That's my two cents on the original question, continue with the calling all PC players cheaters now. I'm gonna go to bed.
On the videos I've seen about console playing, console players make and forgive a lot of mistakes. Theres a dual wield build on a mDK that works pefect on console but by no way it will ever work on PC. Anyway, you need a lot of skill to do that.
Different games, different builds, different playing styles.