Ok lets do it, PC vs Console, what takes more skill...

Argah · July 2017

I see A LOT of digs from pc players at console players for reasons I don't understand, here is what I think....

PC players surely get it easier, players are generally older so slower reaction times etc. players basically auto piliot with addons , skill gap must be very narrow due to all the help.

Console must have much bigger skill gap, best excel since nothings auto better on that pad quicker reaction times you win.

That is all I have, would like to have this not be closed and have some reasonable sensible input from both sides for an awesome read and awesome thread without insulting one another, lets go and don't give mods a reason to close the thread.

phaneub17_ESO · July 2017

I recently took up playing ESO with a gamepad after suffering a shoulder injury, and I am loving it. It did take a week of trial and error with button mapping I think I got it down to how I want it. Are console players stuck with the 3 templates or do you have button keybind mapping too? I am still using Srendarr Buffs, Azurah HUD, Skyshards, Lorebooks, and Lost Treasure though; can't play without them, just can't.

Cydone · July 2017

The bait in this post is real! lol

Vipstaakki · July 2017

You don't want to open this can of worms.

Argah · July 2017

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I recently took up playing ESO with a gamepad after suffering a shoulder injury, and I am loving it. It did take a week of trial and error with button mapping I think I got it down to how I want it. Are console players stuck with the 3 templates or do you have button keybind mapping too? I am still using Srendarr Buffs, Azurah HUD, Skyshards, Lorebooks, and Lost Treasure though; can't play without them, just can't.

I dunno, not played pc just play with standard buttons on console but I'm really interested to know why pc player think we get it easy.

Maybe we do, maybe there salty we paid a couple hundred to enjoy the game they paid like 800, be interesting to read replies.

Xvorg · July 2017

They are different games... it's like comparing Tamriel with Westeros

Argah · July 2017

Xvorg wrote: »

They are different games... it's like comparing Tamriel with Westeros

So why do pc players sneer at us? is it easier or harder? that is the question.

andreasranasen · July 2017

Hmm, name a PC player who can complete vMoL without addons... *sips tea*

This thread is major bait. But at the end of the day, console made this game what it is today. And we make up for 66% of players across platforms.

Let the triggering begin!

Argah · July 2017

andreasranasen wrote: »

Hmm, name a PC player who can complete vMoL without addons... *sips tea*

This thread is major bait. But at the end of the day, console made this game what it is today. And we make up for 66% of players across platforms.

It's not bait hence the talk civil, it could be really good discussion.

Cydone · July 2017

The bait in this post is real! lol

andreasranasen wrote: »

Hmm, name a PC player who can complete vMoL without addons... *sips tea*

This thread is major bait. But at the end of the day, console made this game what it is today. And we make up for 66% of players across platforms.

Actually PC made this game, cause if it wasn't for the initial interest and support from the PC player base, this game would have died and never been put on consoles.

andreasranasen · July 2017

Cydone wrote: »

The bait in this post is real! lol

andreasranasen wrote: »

Hmm, name a PC player who can complete vMoL without addons... *sips tea*

This thread is major bait. But at the end of the day, console made this game what it is TODAY. And we make up for 66% of players across platforms.

Actually PC made this game, cause if it wasn't for the initial interest and support from the PC player base, this game would have died and never been put on consoles.

See highlighted in 'previous quote'

Argah · July 2017

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?

wolfie1.0. · July 2017

Well we wont truly know which oone is better until they allow cross platform play. But really they all require some type of skill.

Personally I prefer gaming and ESO on PC because:

1) Patches and fixes are deployed here first
2) PTS
3) I like hot keys and don't like menus
4) Mobility, i can play my laptop anywhere and i dont need to hook it up to something other than wifi
5) addons
6) i can play with a MMO mouse which expands my mapping options
7) I needed a PC for work/school and couldn't afford to have that AND a console
8) I pay for internet connection, so I shouldn't have to pay an additional service fee to connect to it
9) Steam Sales
10) I can have as many as 3 screens connected to my PC at one time, so I can multitask while playing.

Spliffo · July 2017

Every time I see this topic come up I just think of when I watch PC players running VMA on Stam sorcs and seeing that big crit surge symbol cover a quarter of their screen when it's about to run out and lol to myself

Argah · July 2017

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

Well we wont truly know which oone is better until they allow cross platform play. But really they all require some type of skill.

Personally I prefer gaming and ESO on PC because:

1) Patches and fixes are deployed here first
2) PTS
3) I like hot keys and don't like menus
4) Mobility, i can play my laptop anywhere and i dont need to hook it up to something other than wifi
5) addons
6) i can play with a MMO mouse which expands my mapping options
7) I needed a PC for work/school and couldn't afford to have that AND a console
8) I pay for internet connection, so I shouldn't have to pay an additional service fee to connect to it
9) Steam Sales
10) I can have as many as 3 screens connected to my PC at one time, so I can multitask while playing.

It's not what you prefer, it's what takes more skill.

Hippie4927 · July 2017

I have been strictly a PC gamer since around the year 2000 but I am not getting in this fight because it never ends well. I will just lurk!

Unfadingsilence · July 2017

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused I know my Xbox with all my add stuff to it is more than 600 tho and 3k on a PC you should have just made your own from the sound of it.....

Unfadingsilence · July 2017

Argah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?

Yes I think it does

Argah · July 2017

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused

100% based on which takes more user input, human element aka skill to be the best.

disintegr8 · July 2017

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I recently took up playing ESO with a gamepad after suffering a shoulder injury, and I am loving it. It did take a week of trial and error with button mapping I think I got it down to how I want it. Are console players stuck with the 3 templates or do you have button keybind mapping too? I am still using Srendarr Buffs, Azurah HUD, Skyshards, Lorebooks, and Lost Treasure though; can't play without them, just can't.

We don't have button mapping that I am aware of - which really annoys me.

I think console players might have issues affecting what they can/can't do and how they do it, but we are only playing against others with the same system. It would be different if we were trying to play cross platform. That's the price I pay for not having to maintain a PC.

We don't even have on screen maps. Do you know how annoying it is having to stop and look at the map to find the right path back to the final boss in CoS after you have been banished?

Riptide · July 2017

For the folks who have said that without PC there would be no console version, er, no. I was in the alpha test, the game was designed to be launched on consoles way, way way before day 1. The way skills are, the UI, all of it was designed with it in mind.

As far as which is better, wel, I've played extensively on both. Obviously PC is better - better graphics, mods, custom controllers, the list is very long. Its a higher quality of life,

As for which takes more skill - console, fairly obviously. I don't mean this as a shot and it shouldn't make anyone defensive, It simply does. Less quality of life in so many ways. Simply try VMA on both and it is no contest at all.

The one perk of console - can more easily play in your livingroom or mancave inexpensively.

Betsararie · July 2017

Argah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?

You're looking at it all wrong.

It's not about the price but rather the power.

The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.

Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.

They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.

I am discussing facts and nothing else.

Argah · July 2017

Blanco wrote: »

Argah wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

If my house and car is more valuable than yours does it make you a doorknob?

You're looking at it all wrong.

It's not about the price but rather the power.

The price is just an indication of how powerful the machine is.

Gaming PCs are far more powerful than consoles, and as such deliver an objectively superior experience.

They also have the superior control scheme (mouse and keyboard), and you can even plug in a controller if you wish.

I am discussing facts and nothing else.

That is common knowledge, has no relevance at all to what takes more skill to play.

PC players here sneer at console players, I thought it was based on how easy we get it, if it's because they paid more... well that's pretty pathetic.

Unfadingsilence · July 2017

Argah wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

PC is so far beyond console it's not even close.

Maybe that's why my computer costed close to $3000 and your console costs $200? Maybe that would have something to do with it

Also my computer is, you know, a computer? Can be used for many things other than gaming.

Consoles are useful as doorstops and little else.

Are they talking about the price of PC vs Console or who has more skill in the game all together I'm confused

100% based on which takes more user input, human element aka skill to be the best.

It really comes down to we play two different games really. I have played on PC and currently play on Xbox NA and even when sypherpk and KingRichard would play on Xbox or PS4 it was a whole different game for them sure it might have been because they where known players and seeing them get run over by 50+ ppl anytime they where in open world was funny "JK" but when it comes down to skill it's hard to tell. But for PVE PC has an advantage over console for one reason and one reason only PTS. They get to try and figure out the machines of a new trial or dungeon before console does and new gear before we do. Just like the most recent trial that game out sure PC beat it in one day if I'm not mistaken but those guys had over a month of practice before console did and it only took ppl on Xbox 2 days with zero practice to beat it. BUT at the same time we depend on PC to show us new gear sets in action new things on the PTS that will help with our overall game play. At least that's how I see it

eso_lags · July 2017

I think the really good pc players might be better, only because it seems like the animation canceling is more advanced on pc.. But when i watch 1vx videos that come from pc players its like nothing ive ever seen, like people standing around barely doing anything.. Also console lags so bad so its harder to play especially in solo pvp.. Oh and pc has more options for number crunching and min maxing with add ons.

Regardless my honest opinion is that, at this point, it doesnt matter. All communities have good players, the only things different that ive noticed are the things i listed above, but i dont think that makes players better over all on any platform..

Also, @ZOS_GinaBruno I will do ANYTHING for a PC transfer. Xbox is far to laggy in cyrodil ( most of the time ) and it makes solo pvp nightmarish.

Strider_Roshin · July 2017

It's the same game, except one requires you to think less due to add-ons, and the other is console.

It obviously takes more skill to play this game on console because it requires more thinking. Just like it requires more skill to play as stamina. These are simple truths that not many enjoy hearing.

Kram8ion · July 2017

Oh come on now pc's get a bit of hand holding compared to console you have to admit
I don't think it's anything to do with how powerful either is but how far you can customise to your play style

Unfadingsilence · July 2017

Kram8ion wrote: »

Oh come on now pc's get a bit of hand holding compared to console you have to admit

I would say only when it comes to the PTS they do but other than that not at all I know that there are some things I would love on Xbox like add ons for lore books and skyshards bit other than that I'm OK with the set up we have I know when my buffs run out and when to add more food or drink and things like that but lore books and skyshard add-ons would be great to have

Argah · July 2017

Kram8ion wrote: »

Oh come on now pc's get a bit of hand holding compared to console you have to admit
I don't think it's anything to do with how powerful either is but how far you can customise to your play style

From what I see from PC players they have a gazillion add ons doing everything for, barely a skill gap because, well it takes no skill but it seems from this thread its not about skill why they sneer at console users, its the price the paid... honestly next time I will share my cast iron coven from the late 1800's around my living ceiling worth thousands and say get it up you! can't buy that history nowadays buying a pc is simple.

Argah · July 2017

My fireplace is worth more than most of these gaming pc's lol

IronCrystal · July 2017

Let the leaderboards decide.

Truly the only thing you could even close to consider a comparison between platforms. And if console plebs plead the lack of addons, what makes you think the best of the best need addons?