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Solo Play Question
So I entered Cold Harbour quest to kill the worm cult in a castle at the Harborage. The quest is designated as Solo. I keep getting killed at the last phase of the quest. I invited somebody to Group with me but they cannot get thru the Main door. I was under the impression that you can group with somebody even in Solo dungeon. Are Solo quests strictly Solo?
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tommalmm✭✭✭You're one of the players that got tricked by ZOS into believing you can play the way you want. Happens all the time. Equip destro and resto staff, change to light armor (preferably with one piece of heavy and medium, or five light and two heavy for more tankiness), put all points into magicka, get some bistat food (double bloody mara is magicka + health and is not level restricted, so no need to craft new pots every 10-20 champion points. Put some HOTs on yourself and you can faceroll main quest heavy attacking without any offensive skill whatsoever. Or just use siphoning attacks, sap essence. Magicka nightblade has so many options to heal themselves, that you should never worry about your health when fighting anything in the game. There is also a shield in light armor tree... Just in case all the heals are not enough. It's actually quite hard to believe, you might be dying despite heavy armor and all that you have at your disposal.
But most of all, don't just stay in place, letting bosses hit you while you're trying to attack. Move, block, dodge.
PS. Since you're still leveling, ask someone to craft you 5 seducer and three pieces of something else, put all magicka glyps on your gear - or one health on big piece if you have problems surviging, sustain will never be an issue).Edited by tommalmm on July 21, 2017 9:43AM9 -
MrBetadine✭✭✭✭I know which quest you are talking about. Just stay away from the edge of that arena, because the wall insta kills you7
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Yes, remember died 5 times there until i understood that you have to stay close to center.MrBetadine wrote: »I know which quest you are talking about. Just stay away from the edge of that arena, because the wall insta kills you
Reading looking at the death log is useful as it showed it was mechanic,Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.5 -
Bonzodog01✭✭✭✭✭Just an actual detail of that particular boss:
Stay in the middle of the room, within melee range. If I'm right you are talking about the quest in the Castle of the Worm, where cadwell has been helping you to get to the room to free Abnur Tharn.
That top room - Giant visage of Mannimarco, he summons a Bone Lord creature that itself then summons skeletons with bows. You need to tank the arrow hits, keep moving BUT DO NOT LEAVE THE CIRCLE. The circle has a 20K+ barrier around it thats an instakill. Just concentrate on the Bone Lord and kill him. The skeletons will die when he dies. Dodge, move, kite him.
Trust me, there are plenty more fights around tamriel involving Bone Lords who then summon skeletons firing arrows.
And like others have said, your build needs serious revision.
Either go Magicka OR stamina. High elves are best suited for mage-like builds with robes and staves. Magicka Nightblades are lethal, but require a bit of skill to play right, more so than Sorcerors or Templars. They are still far easier than Stamina Nightblades though.
I have always said the best way to learn this game is to play it through doing all the quests on a Templar (they basically cannot die....), then once you have the more complex details down and have learnt a playstyle and know what you are doing build a more challenging character.
Look for Build guides - just google "ESO Magicka Nightblade build", and there is a few people who have posted some very nice and easy to use builds.
Xbox One - EU - EP/DCTrying and failing to hold the walls of his Templar house up since 20157
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✭✭If it's a main story quest then you have to do it solo, nobody can group with you.0 -
So you are saying that if your character cannot defeat the bad guys in a Main Story quest - then you cannot continue the game? The game prides itself on group play - this makes no sense.0
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JasonSilverSpring✭✭✭✭✭BattleShipGray1 wrote: »So you are saying that if your character cannot defeat the bad guys in a Main Story quest - then you cannot continue the game? The game prides itself on group play - this makes no sense.
Post some details about your character including race and skills and someone will give you some advice on how to beat the quest.2 -
I have the High Elf character Night Blade AldMeri Dominion with the Blade of Woe. I have all the Assassin skills = Level 50 and Shadow skills = Level 41. Siphoning = Level 50. My character is a Level 50 Champion. Majicka and Health = 17 each Stamina = 30 Destruction Staff and Heavy Armor = Level 50.1
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BattleShipGray1 wrote: »I have the High Elf character Night Blade AldMeri Dominion with the Blade of Woe. I have all the Assassin skills = Level 50 and Shadow skills = Level 41. Siphoning = Level 50. My character is a Level 50 Champion. Majicka and Health = 17 each Stamina = 30 Destruction Staff and Heavy Armor = Level 50.
Your stats are all over the place.
Dump all your attribute points into either magicka or stamina (high elf is better suited for magicka). Eat some food for more health. Just generic bread you can pick up from tables in the game is fine. You don't need to craft proper food for story line quests.
Then make sure that all your skills are morphed to the correct resource type (so if you put all your attribute points into magicka, make sure all your abilities are morphed to scale off magicka). If you don't know what morphing is, it's the choice you get when you level an ability to level IV.
If you went with all magicka attributes, then make sure you're wearing at least 5 light armour pieces. If you went with stamina, then go with at least 5 medium pieces. You don't need to worry about gear sets or traits right now. Any 5 light pieces or any 5 medium pieces are fine for solo quests.
For weapons, use destruction staves if you are magicka (lightning or inferno are the best), and swords/daggers/bow if you're stamina.
And if you go magicka, make sure to unlock the skill "Anullment" in the light armour skill line (and morph it into "Harness Magicka"). This is a damage shield that makes it almost impossible for you to die.Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 21, 2017 9:53AM8 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭BattleShipGray1 wrote: »So I entered Cold Harbour quest to kill the worm cult in a castle at the Harborage. The quest is designated as Solo. I keep getting killed at the last phase of the quest. I invited somebody to Group with me but they cannot get thru the Main door. I was under the impression that you can group with somebody even in Solo dungeon. Are Solo quests strictly Solo?
What part of solo do you not understand? Is this one of those 'doh moments?3 -
Everstorm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BattleShipGray1 wrote: »I have the High Elf character Night Blade AldMeri Dominion with the Blade of Woe. I have all the Assassin skills = Level 50 and Shadow skills = Level 41. Siphoning = Level 50. My character is a Level 50 Champion. Majicka and Health = 17 each Stamina = 30 Destruction Staff and Heavy Armor = Level 50.
I had a chuckle when I read this but this game is pretty horrible at explaining basic stuff like this. Do some reading, ask some questions and pretty soom you will wonder how you ever got stuck there. Good luck!4 -
seedubsrun✭✭✭✭Yeah I actually just did this one with my magwarden a couple days ago. Post above is right on. You have to stay towards the middle. It's a stupid fight. Also, though take note of the other advice here. You seem to have a faux hybrid kind of thing going which isn't really viable anymore or really ever. If you're a High Elf then do yourself a favor and be magicka based. They have very strong bonuses to magic and will help you out and increase your damage.1 -
BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nightblades are squishy, which makes them hard to solo tough bosses or large groups. Do yourself a favor and figure out a method of healing. Either pick up resto staff or make sure you're using your siphoning line (in which case you should do as above posters suggested and restat to a magicka build), or double down on stamina and hop into Cyrodiil to get Vigor.
NIghtblades are a tough class to master, so you really need to build them optimally if you expect to get much out of them. Hybrid builds are not easy to pull off on NBs. It's worth it once you've got a strategy going, because NBs are fun... but for solo PvE? Yeah, you're going to get squished a couple times before you figure it out.Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)0 -
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✭✭✭Yep. Stay away from the walls, and take out the caster skeletions first. It can be a pain, but it is doable with a nightblade. Food for boosts to health/magic or health/stamina helps, too.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭BattleShipGray1 wrote: »So you are saying that if your character cannot defeat the bad guys in a Main Story quest - then you cannot continue the game? The game prides itself on group play - this makes no sense.
No. That quest does not prevent you from doing quests elsewhere. But what the game is telling you is something could use an improvement. Your build or you are missing a mechanic.1 -
seedubsrun✭✭✭✭bottleofsyrup wrote: »
I'm quite certain it says it right on the case for the Xbox version of the game. Not at home right now to confirm but I'm 99% positive
Edited by seedubsrun on July 21, 2017 1:07PM0 -
seedubsrun✭✭✭✭Yep, just double checked. I'm clearly terrible at using the other functions on here or I'd post a pic
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✭seedubsrun wrote: »bottleofsyrup wrote: »
I'm quite certain it says it right on the case for the Xbox version of the game. Not at home right now to confirm but I'm 99% positive
All good. I found an image. http://i.imgur.com/7lNbObn.jpg
"PLAY THE WAY YOU LIKE
Battle, craft, fish, steal, siege, or explore. The choice is yours to make in a persistent Elder Scrolls world."
So they meant as in what you do, not necessarily how you do it.2 -
seedubsrun✭✭✭✭bottleofsyrup wrote: »seedubsrun wrote: »bottleofsyrup wrote: »
I'm quite certain it says it right on the case for the Xbox version of the game. Not at home right now to confirm but I'm 99% positive
All good. I found an image. http://i.imgur.com/7lNbObn.jpg
"PLAY THE WAY YOU LIKE
Battle, craft, fish, steal, siege, or explore. The choice is yours to make in a persistent Elder Scrolls world."
So they meant as in what you do, not necessarily how you do it.
lol so you can do what you want as long as it fits with how Zos wants you to do it. Got it1 -
bottleofsyrup✭✭✭✭✭
✭seedubsrun wrote: »bottleofsyrup wrote: »seedubsrun wrote: »bottleofsyrup wrote: »
I'm quite certain it says it right on the case for the Xbox version of the game. Not at home right now to confirm but I'm 99% positive
All good. I found an image. http://i.imgur.com/7lNbObn.jpg
"PLAY THE WAY YOU LIKE
Battle, craft, fish, steal, siege, or explore. The choice is yours to make in a persistent Elder Scrolls world."
So they meant as in what you do, not necessarily how you do it.
lol so you can do what you want as long as it fits with how Zos wants you to do it. Got it
Pretty much, lol. That's the problem with scaling everything off of one damage resource or another.1 -
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✭✭✭Putting all your points into magicka and spamming Swallow Soul/Funnel Health should get you through any quest. I'd also advise you to switch out heavy armor for light, but that's not necessary for questing.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA0 -
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✭✭BattleShipGray1 wrote: »So I entered Cold Harbour quest to kill the worm cult in a castle at the Harborage. The quest is designated as Solo. I keep getting killed at the last phase of the quest. I invited somebody to Group with me but they cannot get thru the Main door. I was under the impression that you can group with somebody even in Solo dungeon. Are Solo quests strictly Solo?
Castle of the worm was the most annoying quest I did in my first days...
though there's a trick: Sneak. Skeletons are stupid and a bow can take them easilySarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique1 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BlackSparrow wrote: »Nightblades are squishy, which makes them hard to solo tough bosses or large groups. Do yourself a favor and figure out a method of healing. Either pick up resto staff or make sure you're using your siphoning line (in which case you should do as above posters suggested and restat to a magicka build), or double down on stamina and hop into Cyrodiil to get Vigor.
NIghtblades are a tough class to master, so you really need to build them optimally if you expect to get much out of them. Hybrid builds are not easy to pull off on NBs. It's worth it once you've got a strategy going, because NBs are fun... but for solo PvE? Yeah, you're going to get squished a couple times before you figure it out.
let say they are squishy when build towards dmg. When build towards survival they have 9 livesSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BattleShipGray1 wrote: »I have the High Elf character Night Blade AldMeri Dominion with the Blade of Woe. I have all the Assassin skills = Level 50 and Shadow skills = Level 41. Siphoning = Level 50. My character is a Level 50 Champion. Majicka and Health = 17 each Stamina = 30 Destruction Staff and Heavy Armor = Level 50.
Your build is your problem. You should not be failing main story quests at CP50. At. All.
1. Reset your attribute points and skill points (in the Aldmeri Dominion, you can find the skill/attribute shrines just outside the Elden Root wayshrine).
2. Ensure that MOST or ALL of your attribute points are in magicka. You can put 5 or so points into health if you absolutely must. Your damage is based on your primary stat (which, in your case, should be magicka, since you're an Altmer).
3. Either craft for yourself (or have someone craft for you) at least five pieces of light armour. The Julianos set will help.
4. Read some guides on how to properly set up your magicka nightblade skills.
5. Profit, and feel aghast that you ever struggled with a main story quest.2 -
Thank you all for your constructive input. I will tweak my character's skills and fighting strategy.0
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Tomg999✭✭✭✭One other point for nb's - you can use Shadow Cloak (or the morph Dark Cloak) as a nice way to get safe when things get hairy. On my nb I just keep it handy. It can be helpful when i'm under attack to just hit it and step aside and watch the mobs kind of look around blankly. Gives you a little heal time, and you can get a sneak strike in.0
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Sixsixsix161✭✭✭As a solo player myself (magsorc, warden, templar), I finally had to use a resto staff against the skeletons. You have to take them out first.
Do not step off the area surrounding that center spot, instant death.
There are some good posts above that provide info for your rotation and stuff. You can also Google ESO xxx build (where xxx is your character build).
From what I've read, you shouldn't have too much of a problem when properly outfitted.
Wish I could help you, but I guess that's really a solo quest. And there are others coming up (Angof, etc.) that will test your play ability. There is not much place to deviate from in regards to builds, not a lot of freedom if you want to be successful.
Good luck.
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Moonscythe✭✭✭✭✭I have done that quest several times at level 20 or so with no CP or buffy sets other than Seducer as a magsorc with a destro staff. There is only one trick and that is to stay glued to the pedestal Mannimarco is on. Zap stuff at a distance but don't ket yourself be pulled out of the circle. Once you get the rhythm it isn't hard. I say this with confidence because I am not a power player and only solo.
As an aside, solo only means just that.Scura di Notte - Altmer Nightblade (gear)
Lalin del Sombra - Bosmer Sorcerer (alchemy/enchanting)
Angevin Sarkany - Bosmer Dragonknight
Alkemene Velothi - Dunmer Warden (Morrowind)
Sanna yos'Phalen - Altmer Sorcerer (provisioning)
Cosima di Mattina -Altmer Sorcerer
Naria Andrano - Dunmer Templar
Luca della Serata - Redguard Templar0
