My reasons behind cancelling memberships

Insandros · July 2017

Well, it's against rules etc.. but i don'T care, just hope at least one of those ZoS staff read about it and maybe their light will light up and do something... I just cancelled my membership.. for so many time i took their parts when players were yelling at them, insulting them, stating about how bad they are etc.. but now, i came to a point i get to agree those.... When Morrowind was about to come, ltos of players whined about it.. i take ZoS part etc.. but since it came out, maybe it did made lots of people leave as rumors went, cuz on NA servers, i don'T even see anymore Trial pugs going on, versus pre-Mowworind... unless all trils changed time, i don'T see much from the time i seen a lot of them...

Then, i'Ve heard about new DLC coming, proc set were sorta nerfing, thief mundus was getting nerf.... and now, i jsut made afew trimes vMA, and i'm tired of how stupid this place is and how lasy the design is, just pure synchronise *** so the players can'T actualy succeed unless he doesn't make a single mistake... now, i'm tired of going in that stupid time sink... How many times i died, because i have to *** click 10 times on X to synergise something, and it ain't my mouse, it works perfect on other games than ESO. I then came up with a thing, from all the nerf we see, all stuiff going to drop our dps, to see how they made vMA to actualy doesn't allow much a chance to the players.. i mean, did you really had to make the stupid yellow ghost always spawn besides where the boss is? ZoS doesn't work on the benefits of players, but only to get a stick in their weels....

And i'm so tired of them actualy bugging stuff that has been out for years, but as they always need to get stuff harder for us, they always need to stick their nose in working *** for years, instead of fisxing bugs... i mean, really? Banished Cells, have been out for ages, and why did it came out now bugged with the stupid boss and daederoth stucked up there... in other workds, now mainteance aren't to fix stuff, but to skrew some others...

So i then decided today, no more of my money will be directed to ZoS, unless they start using their brain... I'm now going back in games that staff actualy work so the players have now, and not get frustrated or always struggle with buggs, specialy on old stuff....

Stop adding stupid CPS on each DLC etc... you won'T then have to drop DPS, how good is negating stuff, adding CPS, but droiping DPS and nerfing ***?

The only part i was really impress in this game is the 3d modeler and enviroment designer, besides that, game design and mechanics, poor.... i'Ve spent $ 30k as for 2d graphic design classes, i think i should quit that and go in as video game designer, doesn't seems to be that good to come out with mechanics as simply adding CCs to stuff and synchronise all CC all afterthe other so the player get skrewed if he misses one...

As for RNG, got to say it's the worste RNG in game i'Ve ever seen.. again, i'm sure their RNG is mostly a trick RNG, RNG made out of crap trait stuff having a more % to generate.... normal dungeon that is, and vMA, really, how hard this place is, we still getting stupud *** like an Energised Fire Staff.... or a Defensive Lightning staff.... again, working against the player's fun... but sorry, i'm not one of those that will keep paying $17 per month to run this place to get a proper weapons... maybe one day you'll listen to players and come up with a token, but no, as usual, always working against the players, maybe some kinda of crappy maketing ***, to keep players around by making them having a hard time to get their stuff...who knows

Anyways, thanks for the years it lasted ZoS, but i am now going back to my flight sim, people actualy charging for stuff they fix and going by the common sens... just hope none of game programmer here goes into those Flight Sim world, Airplanes and helicopter flight dynamic won't be reflecting reality but more a stupid odd behavior...

And no one needs to reply about my going message guys, i won'T even log back on here to read it. I gave up topo much time already to ZoS's delirium.... Start to listen to your players instead of being stubborned.

Sigtric · July 2017

can I have your stuff?

Blacksmoke · July 2017

k bye

Doctordarkspawn · July 2017

Goodbye, my friend.
Vote with your wallet. Make them pay double the effort for every cent onward.

The_Smilemeister · July 2017

When is this post getting closed?

geonsocal · July 2017

yet one more reason to avoid the forums at all cost...

Tryxus · July 2017

Good for you

Still good for ZOS as well btw

Tandor · July 2017

Insandros wrote: »

And no one needs to reply about my going message guys, i won'T even log back on here to read it.

Now we all know that that isn't the case.

Besides, you'll be playing again before long, just as soon as you realise the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence as they say.

Unless, of course, flight sims really are your kind of game, which raises the question as to why you were even here in the first place

!

Flaminir · July 2017

Tandor wrote: »

Insandros wrote: »

And no one needs to reply about my going message guys, i won'T even log back on here to read it.

Unless, of course, flight sims really are your kind of game, which raises the question as to why you were even here in the first place !

Maybe thats the problem... he equipped a set of trinimac armour with the wing looking bits on it and tried flying off cliffs only to keep dieing to fall damage!

Slurg · July 2017

It's cool, everyone needs a break once in a while.

bloodthirstyvampire · July 2017

K bye you'll be back soon right @Ch4mpTW he knows it, the game has flaws but its a great game non the less I don't play anything else besides destiny and skyrim, on ps4 anyway

SanTii.92 · July 2017

His main issues seemed to be a dps nerf, when it's getting buffed overall, and the rng, which is alleviated with the traits rebalanced. He looks like he had a couple misconceptions, pity.

Doctordarkspawn · July 2017

Tandor wrote: »

Insandros wrote: »

And no one needs to reply about my going message guys, i won'T even log back on here to read it.

Now we all know that that isn't the case.

Besides, you'll be playing again before long, just as soon as you realise the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence as they say.

Unless, of course, flight sims really are your kind of game, which raises the question as to why you were even here in the first place !

Why is it people allways say this, whether it's an abusive relationship or a game with issues?

Chasing away people and making them regret ever seting foot in ESO isn't a way to improve it's fortunes dude. Just once, maybe you could try not telling people to go play single player games and stay out?

BigBadVolk · July 2017

Inb4 Lock

SSlarg · July 2017

<]8)

you are hereby an honorary member
of the foil hat club.

ForsakenSin · July 2017

.. why are there always people in every thread like these are saying " can i have your stuff " or " or fine go bla bla you can play other games bla bla " and yet not many people actually read everything and see that the OP has a point and reasons why he is doing what he is doing.

If you are running a business say for example a restaurant and people complain and you tell them " you know you don't need to eat here , there are plenty of other places to eat " how long will you stay open ?

As @Malacthulhu actually beautifully pointed out

"Well, actually, it is like you are eating at a restaurant and you hear another table of customers complaining about service then you telling them they do not have to eat here and asking for their leftovers. It happens bc of trolls who feel they get to decide what people are or are not allowed to post on these forums whether it is the first time it has been posted or the 100th."

The problem is , people like OP are the people who love the game and they are heart broken to see a game going the way its going , community not given any chance about changes that are needed.

imagine what would happen if the ZoS made a new post and saying " ok people here is a new pole what would you like to see first in the next update"

1) Jelwery Crafting
2) Token system for VMSA and Dungeons
3) Ability for 9 trait crafter to change the look of the any item pieces
4) Other

Also there will be a admin on servers, bots will be investigated and if they are bots perma ban, cheaters will be banned 7 days and loose all of the items gained via cheating and if caught again perma ban"

NOW imagine if we got that how much respect we would have for ZoS ?? a company that actually listens to its fan base its players its community and is asking US for UR THOUGHTS?

I actually un subed as well , i still play the game every now and then and OP is right, after so many things the community was asking for , jelwery crafting , tokens , to fix the dungeon finder , ban bots and cheaters and now i found out when using breath of life you character stops ..wtf..? so when your running with group and cast it they are way ahead of you .. and is this intended as a NERF so we play warden class ?

Allot of people have already left , the trials guilds are less and less people are slowly getting tired of nothing been done just constant problems , nerfs ect

The only way to make things better maybe is to vote with your wallet , hell me unsubing after 2 years it will not make any difference , but at least im trying to do things for the love for this game and trying to see it improved.

ZoS just listen to your community what they are begging for.

Anyways that is my opinion

disintegr8 · July 2017

So, you don't like the way the game is going, fine. Plenty of others do like the way the game is going and are happily coming on board or returning.

I think it would be far worse if the game never changed and never evolved. Just because a set or skill was the best 6 months ago doesn't mean it has to be the best now. The game would get tedious if I never had to think about changing sets or skills, never had anything new to try, or new places to go.

I don't do min/max or worry about BiS, so am happy to change things around and try new things. Have fun in whatever you move on to next.

Balsagna · July 2017

What?

Malacthulhu · July 2017

ForsakenSin wrote: »

.. why are there always people in every thread like these are saying " can i have your stuff " or " or fine go bla bla you can play other games bla bla " and yet not many people actually read everything and see that the OP has a point and reasons why he is doing what he is doing.

If you are running a business say for example a restaurant and people complain and you tell them " you know you don't need to eat here , there are plenty of other places to eat " how long will you stay open ?

The problem is , people like OP are the people who love the game and they are heart broken to see a game going the way its going , community not given any chance about changes that are needed.

imagine what would happen if the ZoS made a new post and saying " ok people here is a new pole what would you like to see first in the next update"

1) Jelwery Crafting
2) Token system for VMSA and Dungeons
3) Ability for 9 trait crafter to change the look of the any item pieces
4) Other

Also there will be a admin on servers, bots will be investigated and if they are bots perma ban, cheaters will be banned 7 days and loose all of the items gained via cheating and if caught again perma ban"

NOW imagine if we got that how much respect we would have for ZoS ?? a company that actually listens to its fan base its players its community and is asking US for UR THOUGHTS?

I actually un subed as well , i still play the game every now and then and OP is right, after so many things the community was asking for , jelwery crafting , tokens , to fix the dungeon finder , ban bots and cheaters and now i found out when using breath of life you character stops ..wtf..? so when your running with group and cast it they are way ahead of you .. and is this intended as a NERF so we play warden class ?

Allot of people have already left , the trials guilds are less and less people are slowly getting tired of nothing been done just constant problems , nerfs ect

The only way to make things better maybe is to vote with your wallet , hell me unsubing after 2 years it will not make any difference , but at least im trying to do things for the love for this game and trying to see it improved.

ZoS just listen to your community what they are begging for.

Anyways that is my opinion

Well, actually, it is like you are eating at a restaurant and you hear another table of customers complaining about service then you telling them they do not have to eat here and asking for their leftovers. It happens bc of trolls who feel they get to decide what people are or are not allowed to post on these forums wether it is the first time it has been posted or the 100th.

malcolmhagger · July 2017

ForsakenSin wrote: »

.. why are there always people in every thread like these are saying " can i have your stuff " or " or fine go bla bla you can play other games bla bla " and yet not many people actually read everything and see that the OP has a point and reasons why he is doing what he is doing.

If you are running a business say for example a restaurant and people complain and you tell them " you know you don't need to eat here , there are plenty of other places to eat " how long will you stay open ?

As @Malacthulhu actually beautifully pointed out

"Well, actually, it is like you are eating at a restaurant and you hear another table of customers complaining about service then you telling them they do not have to eat here and asking for their leftovers. It happens bc of trolls who feel they get to decide what people are or are not allowed to post on these forums whether it is the first time it has been posted or the 100th."

The problem is , people like OP are the people who love the game and they are heart broken to see a game going the way its going , community not given any chance about changes that are needed.

imagine what would happen if the ZoS made a new post and saying " ok people here is a new pole what would you like to see first in the next update"

1) Jelwery Crafting
2) Token system for VMSA and Dungeons
3) Ability for 9 trait crafter to change the look of the any item pieces
4) Other

Also there will be a admin on servers, bots will be investigated and if they are bots perma ban, cheaters will be banned 7 days and loose all of the items gained via cheating and if caught again perma ban"

NOW imagine if we got that how much respect we would have for ZoS ?? a company that actually listens to its fan base its players its community and is asking US for UR THOUGHTS?

I actually un subed as well , i still play the game every now and then and OP is right, after so many things the community was asking for , jelwery crafting , tokens , to fix the dungeon finder , ban bots and cheaters and now i found out when using breath of life you character stops ..wtf..? so when your running with group and cast it they are way ahead of you .. and is this intended as a NERF so we play warden class ?

Allot of people have already left , the trials guilds are less and less people are slowly getting tired of nothing been done just constant problems , nerfs ect

The only way to make things better maybe is to vote with your wallet , hell me unsubing after 2 years it will not make any difference , but at least im trying to do things for the love for this game and trying to see it improved.

ZoS just listen to your community what they are begging for.

Anyways that is my opinion

this ^

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

K bye you'll be back soon right @Ch4mpTW he knows it, the game has flaws but its a great game non the less I don't play anything else besides destiny and skyrim, on ps4 anyway

@bloodthirstyvampire It is indeed a pretty good game. Once you cast aside the glaring flaws and lag, it is a game that can keep you entertained for a surprising amount of time.

However, it's 1 of those games which drains you after a period time. Resulting in that you must take a prolonged series of "breaks" from it. Or else face becoming: Bitter, toxic, etc. It's a game where too much of it becomes not only a bad thing, but a dangerous thing. I learned this the hard way, and felt the full-effect of ESO's moments of negative side-effects. Even to the point where at 1 point a coffee table was smashed in a fit of rage whilst dealing with VMA's nonsense.

So my advice to you OP, would be to take a break for a while. Just completely distance yourself from any and everything ESO. And then after a few weeks/months, slowly ease back into the game (on a light note). You'll find that while incredibly infuriating at times, ESO can be quite the game to enjoy. But remember! Always take breaks. Always.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2017

Aloha .

Huyen · July 2017

You are complaining about ZoS taking your money and not giving you great content? Sorry to say but the new Assassins Creed is as expensive as I paid for the Physical CE of Morrowind, and thats just one game, with 2 dlc's. So after all considered, I still think ZoS is doing a great job. Might I suggest you take a break of a couple of weeks dear sir?

Edit: in before lock!

Fodore · July 2017

Don't care really

LadyDestiny · July 2017

I can see OP's point of view in a way. He is correct about a lot of things. No need to flame and say bye or if you can have his stuff. This game has become downright frustrating in so many ways. I have played since beta on pc and transferred to console. HUGE MISTAKE! I only did it to play with family on console. I can say that Eso has the worst bugs and lag, crashing, freezing problem than any other multiplayer game I have played on console. I really believe this game is just too much for the old xbox one to handle anymore.The drastic changes and horrible rng is another issue. I can't get all my characters geared before they decide to nerf, buff, break, and update to bring in more problems. They have had plenty of time to fix this, but they just won't. They prefer to get crown store updated so naive people will pay for broken crown crates. I won't quit eso as I have way too much invested and love the elder scrolls, but I will be taking breaks for other games. I understand where OP is coming from.

bloodthirstyvampire · July 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

K bye you'll be back soon right @Ch4mpTW he knows it, the game has flaws but its a great game non the less I don't play anything else besides destiny and skyrim, on ps4 anyway

@bloodthirstyvampire It is indeed a pretty good game. Once you cast aside the glaring flaws and lag, it is a game that can keep you entertained for a surprising amount of time.

However, it's 1 of those games which drains you after a period time. Resulting in that you must take a prolonged series of "breaks" from it. Or else face becoming: Bitter, toxic, etc. It's a game where too much of it becomes not only a bad thing, but a dangerous thing. I learned this the hard way, and felt the full-effect of ESO's moments of negative side-effects. Even to the point where at 1 point a coffee table was smashed in a fit of rage whilst dealing with VMA's nonsense.

So my advice to you OP, would be to take a break for a while. Just completely distance yourself from any and everything ESO. And then after a few weeks/months, slowly ease back into the game (on a light note). You'll find that while incredibly infuriating at times, ESO can be quite the game to enjoy. But remember! Always take breaks. Always.

Uh I know what you mean I see the symptoms all the time

Mitoice · July 2017

I unsub too my friend.. after morrowind, sustain changes and this bad event....i see myself spending my money on other games rather than this one... besides.. I have like 30k on crowns since motifs are useless... and im not buying another house unless they raise the housing limits... i will have enough crowns for like 10 more DLC... lol

And no.. after the morrowind fiasco .. not buying anoyher 40 bucks expansion.. just the Dlcs with my 30k crowns

GreenhaloX · July 2017

Don't worry.. you'll come back. They all come back. ESO is a disease with no cure. It will stick with you, plaquing you, and that little voice somewhere always whispering to you, haunting you.. come back, come back.. you belong to us..

VoodooPlatypus · July 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

But remember! Always take breaks. Always.

Work/Life Balance is very, very real.

One of the things about the current era of MMO-play is that once you have spent invested enough time into one, it becomes a kind of obligation. In the end, and for lack of better terminology, MMOs become a kind of job for many players.

Daily crafting writs, for example, become something you don't want to miss because the potential for reward is there. You have a 3pt hireling? Log in every 12 hours or screw up your cycle - in the real world, for me at least, this means I gotta get home and log in...and THEN the dogs can go out! It's ridiculous and it's admittedly the result of choices I am making, but nonetheless. The pups have lasted all day while I've been at work, but if I don't get my hireling mail at X o'clock, I won't be able to check it in the morning before I have to leave for work. It's a choice. Sometimes Real Life dictates I miss out on that choice. And that's really ok.

Many of us play games because it yields a sense of satisfaction somehow, whether that's from the accomplishment of some long-term goal or from a lucky roll of the RNG dice with the loot we receive (yes, Crown Crates, I'm including you in this example!). Sadly, however, the more we recieve that sense of satisfaction from various activities while playing, the more we want to feel it again - because that feeling is transient, fleeting, and oh, so very temporary. To get this feeling back, well, we play more. And more. And more. All the while (often) neglecting many other things in our lives that also bring general life happiness - through balance.

Many of us have what could easily be called addictive personality types. The designers know this and center nearly all of the game's content around making sure that little subconscious portion of our brains is being tagged all the time. It's our own individual choice on how we spend our time. When something we enjoy doing no longer brings joy into our lives, we should reevaluate the choice to participate in said activity and make a new decision: In this case, Play. Or don't play.

Finding a way to enjoy an MMO as immersive and long-lasting as ESO has been thus far and still managing to pull yourself away to go do some Real Life Stuff (whatever that is) is critical to the overall enjoyment level for the player. As @Ch4mpTW said, Take a break. Maybe not for very long, but definitely do take a break.

Whatever you decide, @Insandros, I hope it brings you joy. If it's playing other games in a different gaming category, that's cool. If it's taking a few days/weeks/months off from ESO before coming back to see it from a different perspective, that's cool too. Either way, just as I would say to any other part-time citizen of Nirn (myself included), don't forget to do the other things that bring happiness into your life.

Nemesis7884 · July 2017

With these topics i just always wonder why the op's think anyone cares....i guess ots the spcial media age where everyone thinks his opinion is really essential to the rest of the world...

Keep_Door · July 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

can I have your stuff?

Can I have the left overs?