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Should 2h weapons be counted as 2 pieces of set?

  • Vapirko
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    They need to pin a statement to the forums: ZOS IS ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THIS. ONE HAND AND RUNE IS BEING DISCUSSED. THAT WILL BE ALL FOR NOW.
  • Drachenfier
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    You're not going to like the nerf, if they do this....otherwise staff and 2h will be vastly superior to every other weapon set
  • ScytheNL
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    SilverWF wrote: »
    ScytheNL wrote: »
    Ok, let's do it. BUT:

    Since I have to farm for TWO weapons with the right traits, droprates on all 2H gear are halved.

    Fair, no?

    No, because you can use crafted one, also you can have 2 enchants and use different sets and traits.
    I can agree, that crafting 2h would require more resourses tho.
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    Simple as it is: should or not?

    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...

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    Because?

    You can use a CRAFTED 2H as well, which won't be influenced by droprates, so my proposition still stands.
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  • ScytheNL
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    Ladislao wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Simple as it is: should or not?

    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...

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    Why is that two boots and two gloves count as "one piece" but not two swords?

    Or are you going to try and tell me that a bow and arrows it uses for ammunition are "one item"?

    Yay, I have unlimited arrows!!!! That means I can have every single bonus set in the game at 5/5!!!!!
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  • SilverWF
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    Shardaxx wrote: »
    No, because nobody would duel wield if it did.
    This argument popped here pretty often already.
    I'll answer: so what?
    Are you can breathe only if someone still using 2w or what? Sure you aren't, so why you are care?
    The problem of damage output and "weaker" skills and whatever is a DESIGN problem and not any relevant to the number of sets items.
    2w >>> 2h in PVE.
    2h usable in PVP only because this skill line has: charge (not all classes has it), weapon dmg buff (the same) and spammable skill with in-build exection (2w doesn't have). Mostly because of this spammable strike - nothing else.
    And this all is design problem, so ZOS can change it in some way.

    And in the future patch weapon enchants becomes very strong and usable, so take your cry about 2w "weakness" and put it into the trash basket.

    Still no any valid points against this change. Are you all playing this game or just like trolling at forums?
    Edited by SilverWF on July 17, 2017 9:13PM
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  • lillybit
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    Voted for yes because there wasn't an 'Other'

    I do think this is the fairest way of working it. It could even work the same as Robe and Breeches - you have the one visible part and another hidden set item that gives you the extra bonus. That way you'd keep the extra grind for the second set bonus so you're not getting it easier than DWers.

    But there have been so many arguments about this issue on here that I've lost the will to hope!

    Really, I'd be happy with a magical version of DW (tho I realise that'd probably mean a new weapon and skill line so there's probably even less chance of that happening) so my poor Magplar doesn't have to use stam weapons for the extra bonus and completely miss out on a whole skill line and it makes regen a real faff

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    Edited by lillybit on July 17, 2017 9:54PM
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  • Bam_Bam
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    I don't really care - would they or not
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    I don't really care - would they or not
    Ladislao wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Simple as it is: should or not?

    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...

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    This! Although I don't really gaf.
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  • SilverWF
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    lillybit wrote: »
    Voted for yes because there wasn't an 'Other'

    I do think this is the fairest way of working it. It could even work the same as Robe and Breeches - you have the one visible part and another hidden set item that gives you the extra bonus. That way you'd keep the extra grind for the second set bonus so you're not getting it easier than DWers.

    But there have been so many arguments about this issue on here that I've lost the will to hope!

    Really, I'd be happy with a magical version of DW (tho I realise that'd probably mean a new weapon and skill line so there's probably even less chance of that happening) so my poor Magplar doesn't have to use stam weapons for the extra bonus and completely miss out on a whole skill line and it makes regen a real faff

    [Edited for typos]

    I'm up for 1-hand magical weapons too (wands, chakrams etc) but chances for this even lesser than for 2h count as 2 pieces...
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  • Sheezabeast
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    Please for the love of god stop giving Zos bad ideas!

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  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    This would make mag even stronger than it is already. No just deal with it
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  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Well they dooooo take up two slots, main hand and off hand, so technically both hands are occupied and should probably count...
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    Well they dooooo take up two slots, main hand and off hand, so technically both hands are occupied and should probably count...

    It's a set item bonus not a set slot bonus.

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  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    My opinion has been that the flexibility of putting 2 different sets as weapons was a huge bit of flexibility as if I go 2 dropped sets, I essentially have to gimp the armor bonuses in my monster helm to get the 5/1/1. That said, 2h has already been brought in line with dw a couple patches ago. Imho, I can see some skill tweaking needing to happen but dw gives the largest increase to base weapon damage and 1h&s gives an extra armor slot (love tbs with divine shield)
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  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    And why the hell does the bow have same weapon damage as a dagger?!
  • STEVIL
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    And why the hell does the bow have same weapon damage as a dagger?!

    Why does a dagger have the same base dmg as sword or mace or axe?

    Basically it works like this...

    2h has neither range nor two slots so it has higher base dmg before passives.

    Every other wpn has either range or two slots and the ssme dmg before passives.

    There is a lot more to it as each package is more than dmg before passives but since you chose to zero in on that, there you go.
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  • Wolfenbelle
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    This is an old debate that goes back to the very beginning of the game. Personally, I'm in favor of letting all six weapon types in ESO use both slots, but ZOS has never agreed to do it. So I doubt they ever will given that the debate goes back to beta days in late 2013 and has continued off and on ever since.

    I just have never understood why four of the six weapon types in the game can't use both slots. I've read all the arguments in favor of keeping it this way, but not a single one has persuaded me that denying use of both slots to two-thirds of the available weapons makes any sense whatsoever.

    Oh, and to those who say a staff, bow or great weapon are one item, that's weakest argument about this issue. It would be so easy to create a scabbard, quiver, over-the-shoulder tie, etc., for these weapons to make two items. Heck, ZOS wouldn't even need to design such items. They could be invisible items like jewelry.
    Edited by Wolfenbelle on July 18, 2017 12:33AM
  • gepe87
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    An oportunity to 2H wields could use 2 full 5 set pieces? More power to spammable dizzying swing, reverse slice and executioner? No thanks.
    Edited by gepe87 on July 18, 2017 12:46AM
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  • Night_Child
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    You're not going to like the nerf, if they do this....otherwise staff and 2h will be vastly superior to every other weapon set

    Why? How? Is it because you get a set bonus while wielding one weapon with 2 hands? Instead of item set bonus, rename them slot set bonus or something else. Also, slightly reduce the base damage to these weapons so that they are more on par with other weapons. Staves should be one handed anyway as the character uses one hand to wield it. They should add crossbows, and then add runes/totems to carry as primary off hand weapons along-side shields.
  • W0lf_z13
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    @Night_Child u're responding to a post that was made almost a year ago.....
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  • SugaComa
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    Yakidafi wrote: »
    I mainly pvp so I know that 2h is already a lot better than 2w so this would skew the balance even more.
    Well in pve use what you like the monsters will go down. I dunno what to say, but to enable this would probably make things overall worse.
    2h = pvp
    2w = pve

    ... You're right but have you considered magic builds in this scenario... Because what you actually should be saying is two handed melee weapons are over performing ... Not 2h in general
  • SugaComa
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    Ladislao wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    Because?

    Because 2H weapon is one item. You do not propose to consider a robe as two parts of set, right?

    No cos a robe only takes up one item slot
  • damdamjel
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    I would say NO if they pushed 2h 2pc for no drawbacks.. Yes. Because new META.. dont forget about jewelry traits, This will compensate for DW.
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  • Night_Child
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    W0lf_z13 wrote: »
    @Night_Child u're responding to a post that was made almost a year ago.....

    And? You misspelled "you're." The point is who cares? Moreover, people do it all the time.
    Edited by Night_Child on April 15, 2018 4:37AM
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    It's simple - if you want to use 2 pieces - either 2 one-handed weapons or 1 one-handed weapon and a shield - you have to deal with the downsides of this choice, but you get as well the bonus of having a second trait and enchantment slot. If 2h weapons would get as well 2 slots for this, why would someone want to choose one-handed weapons then?- You get already special boni for using 2h weapons, but you have to deal with the downside of it as well. Each weapon choice has its advantages and disadvantages - this trade-off is what makes it interesting.
  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    Didn't read all the replies, so not sure if anyone has mentioned this, But........
    It is a moot case as it has been confirmed by testers 2 wks ago that, YES, 2 hand IS going to count as 2 slots..
    So debate is redundant. It done already.
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  • Banana
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    Its great news
  • Pink_Violinz
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    Not - I'm strongly against it, because...
    Didn't read all the replies, so not sure if anyone has mentioned this, But........
    It is a moot case as it has been confirmed by testers 2 wks ago that, YES, 2 hand IS going to count as 2 slots..
    So debate is redundant. It done already.

    Because this was made a year ago and someone genius necro'd it.
  • Spottswoode
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    Yes - let 2h weapons would counts as 2 parts from set
    Either yes or an applicable offhand needs to be added. The current setup is just stupidly unfair for mage tanks, especially after they took the time to rework ice staves into tanking and taunting weapons.
    Didn't read all the replies, so not sure if anyone has mentioned this, But........
    It is a moot case as it has been confirmed by testers 2 wks ago that, YES, 2 hand IS going to count as 2 slots..
    So debate is redundant. It done already.

    Because this was made a year ago and someone genius necro'd it.

    I was actually about to suggest this again (but add in that every heavy armor set for tanking needs to have staves added) tomorrow.
    Edited by Spottswoode on April 15, 2018 7:21AM
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