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Racial passives don't unlock until level 5???
AefionBloodclaw
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So my friend started a new character, and was wondering why his Argonian racial passives were not available. But then he found out they only unlock at level 5. Why is that, why aren't they available from as soon as you exit the Wailing Prison? It's not like everyone is some formless amoeba, and you're only officially racially designated when you get to level 5. You are of that race as soon as you're born.
'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'
Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You can only get your first passive when you're lvl 5 anyways"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »
Yup, but you don't have to put a point in it, do you?"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »
Yup, but you don't have to put a point in it, do you?
No, it's just weird that Argonians don't learn how to swim until they turn 5.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »
Yup, but you don't have to put a point in it, do you?
No, it's just weird that Argonians don't learn how to swim until they turn 5.
Levels = age in eso apparently.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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ScytheNL✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »
Yup, but you don't have to put a point in it, do you?
No, it's just weird that Argonians don't learn how to swim until they turn 5.
Levels = age in eso apparently.
Yes. So many people are 630 years oldIngame:
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✭leepalmer95 wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »
Yup, but you don't have to put a point in it, do you?
No, it's just weird that Argonians don't learn how to swim until they turn 5.
Levels = age in eso apparently.
Yes. So many people are 630 years old
630 its the new 30!4 -
emily3989✭✭✭✭✭Can't wait the 20 Minutes or so it takes to get to level 5? Also I can never remember thinking about passive at that point anyway. First priority was always filling 5 ability slots for me.Thasi - V16 Magblade Vampire PC/NA1
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bebynnag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Can't wait the 20 Minutes or so it takes to get to level 5? Also I can never remember thinking about passive at that point anyway. First priority was always filling 5 ability slots for me.
people are begining to notice because more people are making argonians. and no we cant wait to start swimming super fast!1 -
Darlgon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ahh.. yep. Apparently, you are raceless until you are five.Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
Where is new content? Sigh.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭puffytheslayer wrote: »Can't wait the 20 Minutes or so it takes to get to level 5? Also I can never remember thinking about passive at that point anyway. First priority was always filling 5 ability slots for me.
people are begining to notice because more people are making argonians. and no we cant wait to start swimming super fast!
I think Argonians still swim fast from the start, but it has been nearly 2 months since I rolled an argonian so memory could be tainted. It is part of the passive that was always with us from creation of the character.0 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭I kind of like this. Before, when you create a new toon, all skills and passives were immediately available, but just need to be unlocked. Now, you have to find or acquire a skill before it pops up on your character screen. After finally getting my free character slot back (again, thank you Zen/ZOS/dev or whoever that power may be for finally emplacing that back), I recently created a new toon and was dumbfounded for a few on the emptiness on my character skill screen. I thought, oh man, another freaking bug.. sheesh, but then as continued playtime rolls on, I started getting skills/passives popping up. That's when I realize the change that you have to find and acquire those. Yes, I was also dumbfounded (initially) about the missing racial passive, until it popped up when I reached level 5.
Ehh, not a bad change. Would be nice if I knew about these changes beforehand, though. I don't know.. was there a piece about this on ZOS's posting or something somewhere?0 -
Giraffon✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't much care for this mechanic. I think racial and gear skill lines should be visible immediately. Guild related, Vampire, and WW should not be visible until applicable. Basically I think they should have left it the way it was.Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!1 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@GreenhaloX This change was noted in the Morrowind patch notesLone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord1 -
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✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »Can't wait the 20 Minutes or so it takes to get to level 5? Also I can never remember thinking about passive at that point anyway. First priority was always filling 5 ability slots for me.
people are begining to notice because more people are making argonians. and no we cant wait to start swimming super fast!
I think Argonians still swim fast from the start, but it has been nearly 2 months since I rolled an argonian so memory could be tainted. It is part of the passive that was always with us from creation of the character.
no, not until i reached level 5 (rolled an argonian warden & started leveling it maybe 2/3 weeks ago)
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✭GreenhaloX wrote: »I kind of like this. Before, when you create a new toon, all skills and passives were immediately available, but just need to be unlocked. Now, you have to find or acquire a skill before it pops up on your character screen. After finally getting my free character slot back (again, thank you Zen/ZOS/dev or whoever that power may be for finally emplacing that back), I recently created a new toon and was dumbfounded for a few on the emptiness on my character skill screen. I thought, oh man, another freaking bug.. sheesh, but then as continued playtime rolls on, I started getting skills/passives popping up. That's when I realize the change that you have to find and acquire those. Yes, I was also dumbfounded (initially) about the missing racial passive, until it popped up when I reached level 5.
Ehh, not a bad change. Would be nice if I knew about these changes beforehand, though. I don't know.. was there a piece about this on ZOS's posting or something somewhere?
it was mentioned in the patch notes , discussed on the forums & therefore considered adequatley publicised - of course in reality nobody knoew, just like nobody knew when a taunt was added to an ice staff heavy attack....1 -
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✭AefionBloodclaw wrote: »So my friend started a new character, and was wondering why his Argonian racial passives were not available. But then he found out they only unlock at level 5. Why is that, why aren't they available from as soon as you exit the Wailing Prison? It's not like everyone is some formless amoeba, and you're only officially racially designated when you get to level 5. You are of that race as soon as you're born.
Why is this a problem? You can hit level 10 in like 30 minutes.0 -
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✭notimetocare wrote: »What confuses me it to why 20m of gameplay is worth being annoyed over lolAefionBloodclaw wrote: »So my friend started a new character, and was wondering why his Argonian racial passives were not available. But then he found out they only unlock at level 5. Why is that, why aren't they available from as soon as you exit the Wailing Prison? It's not like everyone is some formless amoeba, and you're only officially racially designated when you get to level 5. You are of that race as soon as you're born.
Why is this a problem? You can hit level 10 in like 30 minutes.
because people love to complain
and argonians love to swim really really really really fast!0 -
AefionBloodclaw✭✭✭✭Its not lore friendly that racial passives aren't available from level 1.'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'
Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
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AshTal✭✭✭✭His an Argonian his racial passives are worthless he should be happy he can't see them until his invested in the character
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Ir0nB34r✭✭✭Seriously? We are talking level 5, not level 50. You will get that almost immediately after you start playing. What is so important that you need your racial passives as soon as you start?[XBOX][NA]
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AefionBloodclaw✭✭✭✭You're so wrapped up in the mechanics, you don't care about the lore, do you.'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'
Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
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Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"If you're nothing without this racial passive then you shouldn't have it."
- Some Guy From House Starksigning off1 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You see the racial skills 5 levels later, but you're going to unlock the last passive at around level 45 instead of level 50 so the new curve is more effective. There's no negative consequence of the change unless you refuse to play the game over it.
Also, remember for a moment that Stella needed to learn how to get her groove back. Not all things one is capable of are immediately present. Unless you're whistle-blowing lore and calling people trolls. We all know how that turns out. It's basically the rage-quit starter pack at this point.signing off0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭On the one hand, it mystifies me how few people bother to even glance at the patch notes whenever a major update comes out.
On the other hand, I look at all the whining on the forum and think how much happier players would be if fewer of them read the patch notes.
I still haven't quite managed to square that particular circle!0
