Malacthulhu wrote: »Elitism has positive an neg conotation in the gaming communities. Good on you for not being a jerk and helpìng someone develòp in the game and not excluding them.
We do not know the other persons story and maybe they only have so mucj game time. While that does not excuse the behavior as they can always drop and jump back in que or actually find a good guild. Good on you again for not enabling them.
Pug Proof Priestess... one must always carry food that scales.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/dark-priestess-pug-proof/
A true elitist doesnt need a specific build to carry a group
Pug Proof Priestess... one must always carry food that scales.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/dark-priestess-pug-proof/
A true elitist doesnt need a specific build to carry a group
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stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »I stopped paying attention when you mentioned "console"...lol
actually, good on you for keeping the player on!
I have truly never understood why people look down upon us lowly peasants for using a different platform to play the SAME DAMN GAME.
Ill never understand the whole console vs PC argument.
stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »I stopped paying attention when you mentioned "console"...lol
actually, good on you for keeping the player on!
I have truly never understood why people look down upon us lowly peasants for using a different platform to play the SAME DAMN GAME.
Ill never understand the whole console vs PC argument.
PC = master race and console = well, it's there.
Malacthulhu wrote: »Elitism has positive an neg conotation in the gaming communities. Good on you for not being a jerk and helpìng someone develòp in the game and not excluding them.
We do not know the other persons story and maybe they only have so mucj game time. While that does not excuse the behavior as they can always drop and jump back in que or actually find a good guild. Good on you again for not enabling them.
Based on the very first reply to my post, it seems there are even forum elitists! I wouldve never guessed.
Malacthulhu wrote: »Elitism has positive an neg conotation in the gaming communities. Good on you for not being a jerk and helpìng someone develòp in the game and not excluding them.
We do not know the other persons story and maybe they only have so mucj game time. While that does not excuse the behavior as they can always drop and jump back in que or actually find a good guild. Good on you again for not enabling them.
Aww but you see if he was worried about time he had no reason to even complain. Like i said, up to the point he called out the low cp guy, we had been doing fine. it was wayrest for gods sake.
the low cp guy hadnt died or ran the boss around in circles or anything like that. if cp 400 had just kept quiet we wouldve flown thru it like we did without him.
Yes when we got to last boss, low cp guy wouldve gotten one shot repeatedly and I wouldve swapped to tank just like I did without cp 400.
Nothing changed whatsoever except Mr cp 400 didnt get to complete it with us bc he had a terrible attitude towards the low cp guy for no reason whatsoever.
Malacthulhu wrote: »Malacthulhu wrote: »Elitism has positive an neg conotation in the gaming communities. Good on you for not being a jerk and helpìng someone develòp in the game and not excluding them.
We do not know the other persons story and maybe they only have so mucj game time. While that does not excuse the behavior as they can always drop and jump back in que or actually find a good guild. Good on you again for not enabling them.
Based on the very first reply to my post, it seems there are even forum elitists! I wouldve never guessed.Malacthulhu wrote: »Elitism has positive an neg conotation in the gaming communities. Good on you for not being a jerk and helpìng someone develòp in the game and not excluding them.
We do not know the other persons story and maybe they only have so mucj game time. While that does not excuse the behavior as they can always drop and jump back in que or actually find a good guild. Good on you again for not enabling them.
Aww but you see if he was worried about time he had no reason to even complain. Like i said, up to the point he called out the low cp guy, we had been doing fine. it was wayrest for gods sake.
the low cp guy hadnt died or ran the boss around in circles or anything like that. if cp 400 had just kept quiet we wouldve flown thru it like we did without him.
Yes when we got to last boss, low cp guy wouldve gotten one shot repeatedly and I wouldve swapped to tank just like I did without cp 400.
Nothing changed whatsoever except Mr cp 400 didnt get to complete it with us bc he had a terrible attitude towards the low cp guy for no reason whatsoever.
Mr Cp 400 should have taken a chill pill.and enjoyed the gravy train lol. I like doing randoms to meet new people and if we dont get through it there is always next time. Enjoy the social aspect have some laughs. Have also used it as an opportunity to recruit to guild.
Malacthulhu wrote: »Malacthulhu wrote: »Elitism has positive an neg conotation in the gaming communities. Good on you for not being a jerk and helpìng someone develòp in the game and not excluding them.
We do not know the other persons story and maybe they only have so mucj game time. While that does not excuse the behavior as they can always drop and jump back in que or actually find a good guild. Good on you again for not enabling them.
Based on the very first reply to my post, it seems there are even forum elitists! I wouldve never guessed.Malacthulhu wrote: »Elitism has positive an neg conotation in the gaming communities. Good on you for not being a jerk and helpìng someone develòp in the game and not excluding them.
We do not know the other persons story and maybe they only have so mucj game time. While that does not excuse the behavior as they can always drop and jump back in que or actually find a good guild. Good on you again for not enabling them.
Aww but you see if he was worried about time he had no reason to even complain. Like i said, up to the point he called out the low cp guy, we had been doing fine. it was wayrest for gods sake.
the low cp guy hadnt died or ran the boss around in circles or anything like that. if cp 400 had just kept quiet we wouldve flown thru it like we did without him.
Yes when we got to last boss, low cp guy wouldve gotten one shot repeatedly and I wouldve swapped to tank just like I did without cp 400.
Nothing changed whatsoever except Mr cp 400 didnt get to complete it with us bc he had a terrible attitude towards the low cp guy for no reason whatsoever.
Mr Cp 400 should have taken a chill pill.and enjoyed the gravy train lol. I like doing randoms to meet new people and if we dont get through it there is always next time. Enjoy the social aspect have some laughs. Have also used it as an opportunity to recruit to guild.
He who lives in a glass house shouldnt throw stones.
Modern translation: He with low CP in heavy armor and a 2H should not attack the humble low CP in heavy armor/2H ..while Im around.
So a friend and I que for the pledges. We are both near 1000 CP, all hardmode trials completed, leaderboard regulars blah blah blah...what some would describe as...dun dun dun..an elitist.
We were bored. I needed the skill points on my warden and he..he just goes where I drag him typically.
We land in Wayrest 1 Veteran. Easy peasy, right?.
I, on my trial geared warden healer, Swagg is on an OP magsorc, one dps and one tank we dont know. We start blowing thru adds paying no mind to either of the 2 randoms.
Then I see this pop up in group chat from the CP 400 DD.
Whyyyyy are you doing vet dungeons??
Now at first, I dont know what or who he is referring to. So I ask, what do you mean?
Well...he is not talking to me. He is talking to the poor CP 94 tank with a two hand weapon, yes, but is actually holding taunt and staying ALIVE.
I couldve easily asked Mr CP 400 the same thing.
And so our conversation begins..
I decide at this moment...I am going to show him just what a REAL elitist is...I explain to this "elite" CP 400 DPS in heavy armor and a 2H that my friend Swagg and I top leaderboards so we should be more than capable of carrying someone thru Wayrest except...unfortunately we are not going to be carrying HIM.
I vote to kick him and of course, it passes immediately. The CP 94 is apologizing profusely in group and area chat.
We reassure him that he is doing fine, give him a few pointers on tanking and continue. We were fine until last boss who one shotted him repeatedly thru his 16k health.
But in this moment I WAS DEDICATED.
I decided to switch to my tank. My tank who has tanked Vmol while I breastfed.
*Meanwhile, I notice Mr CP 400 has whispered me...and called me a "console pleb".
I swap from my healer to tank and respond to Mr CP 400.
Apparently, he doesn't realize that he is whispering me on console as well which makes him also a...console pleb.
But! Mr CP 400 inspired me. I was going to carry this low-level through whatever dungeon showed up for pledges today because I was inspired!
Yes! I am an elitist and I am proud of it, but I am an elitist with a heart and the memory..of when I too..was a noob. (It was last week, I think) A noob hard casting crystal frags in heavy reinforced non set armor.
So I got on my BIS DK tank with Ebon and Alkosh and I tanked the ever loving hell out of that final boss while CP 94 heavy attacked like his life depended on it.
Did she oneshot him every 3.5 seconds? Yes. Did she enrage? Yes. Did her soul tether instakill him? Good god YES.
But he got back up, (I made Swagg res him after every death even though we didnt need him, it was the principle of the matter, I wanted him on his FEET and ALIVE when she died dammit) and he continued to be a team player (I told him not to taunt) until she died.
It was his first clear ever in a vet dungeon. And we 3 manned it. Well, technically 2 cause he didnt count but whatever.
It was the funnest, most absurd predicament and I loved every moment of it.
I loved it so much, I drug him along to do the 2nd pledge (Not the DLC, I may have my saint moments but Im not Mother Theresa) and he heavy attacked his way to another skill point in BC.
Could I have kicked him in Wayrest and run it in 5 mins flat? Yes. Could I have chosen not to drag him thru a 2nd dungeon? Yes.
But he inspired me. To rub it in Mr CP 400's face that a true elitist..a real elitist? They can carry anyone thru just about anything (except the twins, dear god no).
So, if you are complaining or you are worried about having ONE low CP noob in your easy peasy level 1 veteran dungeon..well, then you're probably not as much of an elitist as you think you are.
Word of advice, if you are going to single out someone for being low level, make sure you are at the very least MAX level your damned self.
Shoutout to that CP 94(now 96 after the pledges!) for hanging in there. There ARE elitists out there that are helpful and willing to play as a team.
bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »So a friend and I que for the pledges. We are both near 1000 CP, all hardmode trials completed, leaderboard regulars blah blah blah...what some would describe as...dun dun dun..an elitist.
We were bored. I needed the skill points on my warden and he..he just goes where I drag him typically.
We land in Wayrest 1 Veteran. Easy peasy, right?.
I, on my trial geared warden healer, Swagg is on an OP magsorc, one dps and one tank we dont know. We start blowing thru adds paying no mind to either of the 2 randoms.
Then I see this pop up in group chat from the CP 400 DD.
Whyyyyy are you doing vet dungeons??
Now at first, I dont know what or who he is referring to. So I ask, what do you mean?
Well...he is not talking to me. He is talking to the poor CP 94 tank with a two hand weapon, yes, but is actually holding taunt and staying ALIVE.
I couldve easily asked Mr CP 400 the same thing.
And so our conversation begins..
I decide at this moment...I am going to show him just what a REAL elitist is...I explain to this "elite" CP 400 DPS in heavy armor and a 2H that my friend Swagg and I top leaderboards so we should be more than capable of carrying someone thru Wayrest except...unfortunately we are not going to be carrying HIM.
I vote to kick him and of course, it passes immediately. The CP 94 is apologizing profusely in group and area chat.
We reassure him that he is doing fine, give him a few pointers on tanking and continue. We were fine until last boss who one shotted him repeatedly thru his 16k health.
But in this moment I WAS DEDICATED.
I decided to switch to my tank. My tank who has tanked Vmol while I breastfed.
*Meanwhile, I notice Mr CP 400 has whispered me...and called me a "console pleb".
I swap from my healer to tank and respond to Mr CP 400.
Apparently, he doesn't realize that he is whispering me on console as well which makes him also a...console pleb.
But! Mr CP 400 inspired me. I was going to carry this low-level through whatever dungeon showed up for pledges today because I was inspired!
Yes! I am an elitist and I am proud of it, but I am an elitist with a heart and the memory..of when I too..was a noob. (It was last week, I think) A noob hard casting crystal frags in heavy reinforced non set armor.
So I got on my BIS DK tank with Ebon and Alkosh and I tanked the ever loving hell out of that final boss while CP 94 heavy attacked like his life depended on it.
Did she oneshot him every 3.5 seconds? Yes. Did she enrage? Yes. Did her soul tether instakill him? Good god YES.
But he got back up, (I made Swagg res him after every death even though we didnt need him, it was the principle of the matter, I wanted him on his FEET and ALIVE when she died dammit) and he continued to be a team player (I told him not to taunt) until she died.
It was his first clear ever in a vet dungeon. And we 3 manned it. Well, technically 2 cause he didnt count but whatever.
It was the funnest, most absurd predicament and I loved every moment of it.
I loved it so much, I drug him along to do the 2nd pledge (Not the DLC, I may have my saint moments but Im not Mother Theresa) and he heavy attacked his way to another skill point in BC.
Could I have kicked him in Wayrest and run it in 5 mins flat? Yes. Could I have chosen not to drag him thru a 2nd dungeon? Yes.
But he inspired me. To rub it in Mr CP 400's face that a true elitist..a real elitist? They can carry anyone thru just about anything (except the twins, dear god no).
So, if you are complaining or you are worried about having ONE low CP noob in your easy peasy level 1 veteran dungeon..well, then you're probably not as much of an elitist as you think you are.
Word of advice, if you are going to single out someone for being low level, make sure you are at the very least MAX level your damned self.
Shoutout to that CP 94(now 96 after the pledges!) for hanging in there. There ARE elitists out there that are helpful and willing to play as a team.
very Honerable - i too would never remove any1 from a vet dungeon... regardless of their cp, best way for them to realise their probably undergeared is to run them thro it..
But the bit that maybe me laugh,, call your self elitest - but u switched to your tank, elitest solo Wayrest sewers 1, one of the easily to solo..so with your elite partner aswell .. chuckle ;D...
but GG for being proper gamer and sticking with it
Now you know the real end-game: vPUGs.
Next time, for more challenge, can pug alone each in different groups. I recomend Direfrost keep last boss, Darkshade Cavern the Netch and CoA2 is also much fun overall.
When you are done and want moar there is real HARDCORE end-game: pugs in vDLC dungeons. Have fun!
Now you know the real end-game: vPUGs.
Next time, for more challenge, can pug alone each in different groups. I recomend Direfrost keep last boss, Darkshade Cavern the Netch and CoA2 is also much fun overall.
When you are done and want moar there is real HARDCORE end-game: pugs in vDLC dungeons. Have fun!
That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. I've been there and done all that.
Ep1kMalware wrote: »
Shardan4968 wrote: »So not all elitists are bad guys? I thought this is someone who exclude other players in order to make her/himself feel important. If you are very good player and high CP then you are automatically "elitist"?
Its the wannabes that are giving the elitists the bad name!
johnnified wrote: »Not an elitist, you are barely one.
Elitists don't give a crap about helping anyone, and mock anyone who doesn't fit their fantasy meta of "DPS/TANK" range of expectations.
Elitists don't give anyone the time of day because they can't learn to have fun..
You did the opposite. You are not an elitist
No no do not be mistaken. I am a min/maxer elitist to the core. BUT I have a heart and I am not unnecessarily cruel. They are not mutally exclusive
People arent black and white. We are grey.
Ep1kMalware wrote: »
Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
I wasnt after anything. I dont know if i could have made myself any clearer, I ENJOYED this encounter. I wasnt complaining about it; I loved it. Smh.
It was the CP 400 who was complaining..did you even read it? I dont believe you did.
Dude I your your stupid post. I don't think bragging about it here and narcassistically demanding a gold star for an every day encounter for most people qualifies you to magically know who did and did not read your 'hey look at me' mantra.
I don't know what you're after, because 'elitests' and even lowbies are having to carry people this patch. There's alot of new and rejoining players now. Carrying is the meta. What do you want? Attention? There, you got it.
We wont agree so theres no point to even engage in a discussion. Cheers.
maybe its also elittists calling themselves as elitists, that give this all a bad name. i mean, did u ever look up in the dictionary what it means? so u think about urself ur better than the rest. thats what you are basically saying. because u are good in a game...
EDIT: elitism sucks in general.
So a friend and I que for the pledges. We are both near 1000 CP, all hardmode trials completed, leaderboard regulars etc...what some would desribe as an elitist.
We were bored. I needed the skill points on my warden and he..he just goes where I drag him typically.
So we land in Wayrest 1 Veteran. Easy peasy. I on my warden healer, he is on a magsorc, one dps and one tank we dont know. We start blowing thru adds paying no mind to either of the 2 randoms.
Then I see this pop up in group chat from the CP 400 DD.
Whyyyyy are you doing dungeons??
Now at first, I dont know what or who he is referring to. So I ask, what do you mean?
Well...he is not talking to me. He is talking to the poor CP 94 tank with a two hand weapon, yes, but is actually holding taunt and staying ALIVE.
And so our conversation begins..
I decide at this moment...I am going to show him just what a REAL elitist is...I explain to this "elite" CP 400 DPS in heavy armor and a 2H that my friend Swagg and I top leaderboards and we are more than capable of carrying someone thru Wayrest except...we are not going to be carrying HIM.
I vote to kick him and of course, it passes immediately. The CP 94 is apologizing profusely in group and area chat.
We reassure him that he is doing fine, give him a few pointers on tanking and continue. We were fine until last boss who one shotted him repeatedly thru his 16k health.
But in this moment I WAS DEDICATED.
I decided to switch to my tank. My tank who has tanked Vmol while I breastfed.
*Meanwhile, I notice Mr CP 400 has whispered me...and called me a "console pleb".
I swap from my healer to tank and respond to Mr CP 400.
Apparently, he doesn't realize that he is whispering me on console as well which makes him also a...console pleb.
But! Mr CP 400 inspired me. I was going to carry this low-level through whatever dungeon showed up for pledges today because I was inspired!
Yes! I am an elitist and I am proud of it, but I am an elitist with a heart and the memory..of when I too..was a noob. (It was last week, I think) A noob hard casting crystal frags in heavy reinforced non set armor.
So I got on my BIS DK tank with Ebon and Alkosh and I tanked the ever loving hell out of that final boss while CP 94 heavy attacked like his life depended on it.
Did she oneshot him every 3.5 seconds? Yes. Did she enrage? Yes. Did her soul tether instakill him? Good god YES.
But he got back up, (I made Swagg res him after every death even though we didnt need him, it was the principle of the matter, I wanted him on his FEET and ALIVE when she died dammit) and he continued to be a team player (I told him not to taunt) until she died.
It was his first clear ever in a vet dungeon. And we 3 manned it. Well, technically 2 cause he didnt count but whatever.
It was the funnest, most absurd predicament and I loved every moment of it.
I loved it so much, I drug him along to do the 2nd pledge (Not the DLC, I may have my saint moments but Im not Mother Theresa) and he heavy attacked his way to another skill point in BC.
Could I have kicked him in Wayrest and run it in 5 mins flat? Yes. Could I have chosen not to drag him thru a 2nd dungeon? Yes.
But he inspired me. To rub it in Mr CP 400's face that a true elitist..a real elitist? They can carry anyone thru just about anything (except the twins, dear god no).
And if you are complaining or you are worried about having ONE low CP noob in your veteran dungeon..well, then you're probably not as much of an elitist as you think you are.
Shoutout to that CP 94 for hanging in there.
Nice job.
It's good to know some people are fighting back against these "wannabe elitists" who keep kicking people from easy dungeons for no good reason. Because it's been annoying me pretty bad lately.
Its the wannabes that are giving the elitists the bad name!
come on, i really read that [snip] wall of text and i am quite sure, while that a lot of brain cells died.
maybe its also elittists calling themselves as elitists, that give this all a bad name. i mean, did u ever look up in the dictionary what it means? so u think about urself ur better than the rest. thats what you are basically saying. because u are good in a game...
so okay, that cp 400 guy was an idiot. and you are such a generous guy, coming down to the lowbies....from your high elitary toprank status....helpfull, pulling those noobs through the dungeons, wrote a novel in forums about your greatness....
you are such an awesome guy, and thanks for letting us know. *clapclap*
EDIT: wait...did that one word look like elitits.... hmmmmmm........
EDIT2: did i write that word even one time right? :O
EDIT3: it must be elitists....but i prefer ellistits...
EDIT4: elitism sucks in general.
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Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
I wasnt after anything. I dont know if i could have made myself any clearer, I ENJOYED this encounter. I wasnt complaining about it; I loved it. Smh.
It was the CP 400 who was complaining..did you even read it? I dont believe you did.
Dude I your your stupid post. I don't think bragging about it here and narcassistically demanding a gold star for an every day encounter for most people qualifies you to magically know who did and did not read your 'hey look at me' mantra.
I don't know what you're after, because 'elitests' and even lowbies are having to carry people this patch. There's alot of new and rejoining players now. Carrying is the meta. What do you want? Attention? There, you got it.
We wont agree so theres no point to even engage in a discussion. Cheers.
even answering this kind of post like u did makes u look like your nose is very very high up in the sky...
AoDD33pfri3d wrote: »I was on my healer cp 220 at the time and I was standing near a dungeon and a low lv invited me to group and asked to help him thru the dungeon so I joined and got 2 other low lv in. I healed the crap out of them. End story was they finished it and was happy.
Ep1kMalware wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
I wasnt after anything. I dont know if i could have made myself any clearer, I ENJOYED this encounter. I wasnt complaining about it; I loved it. Smh.
It was the CP 400 who was complaining..did you even read it? I dont believe you did.
Dude I your your stupid post. I don't think bragging about it here and narcassistically demanding a gold star for an every day encounter for most people qualifies you to magically know who did and did not read your 'hey look at me' mantra.
I don't know what you're after, because 'elitests' and even lowbies are having to carry people this patch. There's alot of new and rejoining players now. Carrying is the meta. What do you want? Attention? There, you got it.
We wont agree so theres no point to even engage in a discussion. Cheers.
even answering this kind of post like u did makes u look like your nose is very very high up in the sky...
So if I answer your post does that also mean my nose is high in the sky? What kind of backward logic is that? I responded to him and said that we weren't going to agree so there wasn't even a point to the conversation.
I guess I saw that as being the mature thing to do as opposed to fighting and disagreeing over several more pages and then having it end with absolutely neither person seeing the other side.