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Holy cow! Weapon traits

Waffennacht
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Prosperous gives Regen?

Sharpened and defending cut in half?

Precise gives 9%

Thief nerfed?

Wow, proc sets changing individually too!

Thoughts?
Edited by Waffennacht on July 10, 2017 8:42PM
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  • GrumpyDuckling
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    Just crafted gold sharpened/defending staves for my Templar this morning. Wish I knew these changes were coming before I did that. Still happy in the long run, though, sharpened was too strong.

    Another big change is that armor sets with crit bonuses got a 55% buff - that's huge!
    "Weapon Critical or Spell Critical rating has been increased by 55%" (from PTS notes)
    I'm going for 100% crit chance on my Nightblade Khajiit (don't care that it's not optimal, I just want those sweet sweet yellow numbers on every attack).
  • Tryxus
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    Sharpened was def needed, since it was way better than both Precise and Nirnhoned.

    Perhaps now, we have multiple options for our weapons. And we simply have to alter our CP setup a bit depending on the weapon trait?

    I think Sharpened will still a great trait nonetheless

    Edit: Ooh, but with the buffs to Wep and Spell Crit on armor sets, won't that make Precise a bit useless?
    Edited by Tryxus on July 10, 2017 9:27PM
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  • Glamdring
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    infused maelstrom bow looks good
  • Lexxypwns
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    Prosperous gives Regen?

    Sharpened and defending cut in half?

    Precise gives 9%

    Thief nerfed?

    Wow, proc sets changing individually too!

    Thoughts?

    Everyone should be running precise+shadow for Pvp under these cicrumstances
  • Subversus
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    @Lexxypwns what about nirn?
  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    Subversus wrote: »
    @Lexxypwns what about nirn?

    I'll be continuing to run nirn main hand and sharp in secondary hand. I think this goes back to the optimal build for DW unless you are crit and then its a question of going double precise or nirn/precise which i will channel @Asayre and off hand say that it's dependant on your base crit level.

    Overall I think this update reverts the weapon re-itemization changes in update 9(?). Overall I think this is a solid patch.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Just crafted gold sharpened/defending staves for my Templar this morning. Wish I knew these changes were coming before I did that. Still happy in the long run, though, sharpened was too strong.

    Another big change is that armor sets with crit bonuses got a 55% buff - that's huge!
    "Weapon Critical or Spell Critical rating has been increased by 55%" (from PTS notes)
    I'm going for 100% crit chance on my Nightblade Khajiit (don't care that it's not optimal, I just want those sweet sweet yellow numbers on every attack).

    Doesn't this make Juli BiS hands down?
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  • SirAndy
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    Thoughts?
    Yes ...
  • Waffennacht
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Thoughts?
    Yes ...

    Lol, also, hurry buy up the precise weapons now while they're still cheap!
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  • Malic
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    This makes sharpened more in line with other traits for PVP, its a good change, but not a great one.
  • Tryxus
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    TBS?
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  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Prosperous gives Regen?

    Sharpened and defending cut in half?

    Precise gives 9%

    Thief nerfed?

    Wow, proc sets changing individually too!

    Thoughts?

    Everyone should be running precise+shadow for Pvp under these cicrumstances

    I don't know about that...

    Precise weapons + Thief Mundus will still be very strong...

    I haven't run the math yet, but my net Spell Crit may actually increase (current build features around 73% Spell Crit on both bars)...

    Gotta see how much stronger Mothers Sorrow will be now; before these changes, I had a build that I experimented with that had a hair over 85% Spell Crit; gonna be interesting to see what I will be able to obtain now...

    :)
    Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on July 11, 2017 12:32AM
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Thoughts?
    Yes ...

    Lol, also, hurry buy up the precise weapons now while they're still cheap!

    Looking to grab precise necro right now. Someone bought up all the lightning and inferno staves under 50k on the market (every TTC listing is sold lol).
  • Morgul667
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    Is Julianos going to outperform Netch due to the important bonus on crit ?
  • Waffennacht
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Thoughts?
    Yes ...

    Lol, also, hurry buy up the precise weapons now while they're still cheap!

    Looking to grab precise necro right now. Someone bought up all the lightning and inferno staves under 50k on the market (every TTC listing is sold lol).

    Damn, of course before I get a chance to play
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  • STEVIL
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    Even with up coming tweaks,likely,precise and its smh+heal crit will move to top dog for many.
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  • tunepunk
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    Is there any patch notes or official info about the changes?
  • Waffennacht
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    @tunepunk yes, at the top of the page https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/358541/

    Infused Oblivion or nirnhoned for PvP? Precise for heals?
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  • leepalmer95
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    I was thinking precise + shadow

    More heals + more dmg.

    Can make up some of the sharp loss in cp.
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  • Tezlakipuka
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    Infused: Increased the bonus value granted to the applied enchantment to 30% from 20%, and increased the cooldown reduction to the applied enchantment to 50% from 40%.

    Infused: Fixed an issue where the Infused Weapon Trait was not reducing the cooldown on Oblivion Damage enchantments.

    Reduced the damage on the Damage Health (Oblivion) weapon enchantment by approximately 6%.

    Looks like a massive buff to Infused Oblivion weapons for PVP with that halved cooldown fixed, damage should also slightly increase.

    Need to test out infused Crusher enchantment later on PTS, gotta love that on Alkosh :smile:
  • Glamdring
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    A question. Infused bow on backbar with wepdamage enchant. When i proc it and swap to my frontbar do i keep the buffed wepdamage?
  • Tezlakipuka
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    Glamdring wrote: »
    A question. Infused bow on backbar with wepdamage enchant. When i proc it and swap to my frontbar do i keep the buffed wepdamage?

    Yes, you keep the buff for its duration. When using a bow backbar for PVE, you don't switch to you bow often enough to proc it on cooldown tho, better to use it on an infused dual wield weapon.
    Edited by Tezlakipuka on July 11, 2017 12:46PM
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