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Anddddd viper is dead now

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Ihatenightblades
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It now acts as a dot therefore useless against templars.

Lol oh well
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    Edited by Mashille on July 10, 2017 8:44PM
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  • OdinForge
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    It's not dead it just won't work as it did before, how it worked before was nonsense. They made a couple of other changes listed in the patch notes that may compliment how the new viper will work moving forward.
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  • Ihatenightblades
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    OdinForge wrote: »
    It's not dead it just won't work as it did before, how it worked before was nonsense. They made a couple of other changes listed in the patch notes that may compliment how the new viper will work moving forward.

    I honestly didnt mind it im happy they didnt really touch selenes >:)
  • Koolio
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    1-1500 Dot with 100% uptime isn't dead lol.
    Edited by Koolio on July 10, 2017 8:25PM
  • Ihatenightblades
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    Koolio wrote: »
    1-1500k Dot with 100% uptime isn't dead lol.

    As far as the number one burst combo for stamblades it is lol. No more incap selenes viper all at once.

    Not the craziest nerf but boy its a nerf
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    Koolio wrote: »
    1-1500k Dot with 100% uptime isn't dead lol.

    1.5 mil dot? Sounds brutal
  • Koolio
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    Ihatenightblades wrote: »
    Koolio wrote: »
    1-1500k Dot with 100% uptime isn't dead lol.

    As far as the number one burst combo for stamblades it is lol. No more incap selenes viper all at once.

    Not the craziest nerf but boy its a nerf

    Your right. Now it's viper procs and dots you down during the same combo for the same recap damage. Decent change though.
  • leepalmer95
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    'we're happy with the damage of our proc sets'

    They're happy with a base 16k selene dmg.

    17k with major beserk

    20.2k with incap buff.


    Cool.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.

    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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    Lmao time to actually know your class, scrubs.
  • Glamdring
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    Red Mountain weps on guildtrader might not sell for 100k+gold anymore lol
  • Axoinus
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    No matter. They cycle will begin anew with a new meta soon enough...And then that will get nerfed...or I should say, un-buffed.

    Business as usual in MMOs.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Viper will still be very strong. If anything it gives none dot based burst nightblade's now some sustained damage. Which means we drain stam from players blocking.
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  • Slack
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    Don't see it in the patch notes.
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    Edit: just saw the patch notes.
    A thousand sexy, young Ogrim ladies to grant you eternal pleasure.
    Edited by Slack on July 10, 2017 8:41PM
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    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    'we're happy with the damage of our proc sets'

    They're happy with a base 16k selene dmg.

    17k with major beserk

    20.2k with incap buff.


    Cool.

    Telegraphed and dodgeable. I'll reserve my judgement till testing but sounds good.
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    Viper’s String: This Item Set’s proc now deals its damage over 4 seconds instead of dealing it instantly.
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  • leepalmer95
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    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    'we're happy with the damage of our proc sets'

    They're happy with a base 16k selene dmg.

    17k with major beserk

    20.2k with incap buff.


    Cool.

    Telegraphed and dodgeable. I'll reserve my judgement till testing but sounds good.

    Can ani cancel it.

    If it procs on a cc its gonna hit hard.

    I use it on my stam nb now.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.

    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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    therefore useless against Templars? because they're the only class you're up against in the game?
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  • Vercingetorix
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    Ihatenightblades wrote: »
    OdinForge wrote: »
    It's not dead it just won't work as it did before, how it worked before was nonsense. They made a couple of other changes listed in the patch notes that may compliment how the new viper will work moving forward.

    I honestly didnt mind it im happy they didnt really touch selenes >:)

    Selene's got a nerf, too. There's a 1-sec delay and visual indicator that goes off before it gets applied. Players can react and armor up before it lands now.
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  • SanTii.92
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    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    'we're happy with the damage of our proc sets'

    They're happy with a base 16k selene dmg.

    17k with major beserk

    20.2k with incap buff.


    Cool.

    Telegraphed and dodgeable. I'll reserve my judgement till testing but sounds good.

    Can ani cancel it.

    If it procs on a cc its gonna hit hard.

    I use it on my stam nb now.

    Yeah, but it's a random proc, can't really control it. I'll have to see, but just taking away viper and red mountains burst, Selene only won't be much of an issue.
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    Overall I'm pretty happy with the changes. It will remove a lot of the burst, and everything is more telegraphed. We'll see once it hits the PTS
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    Cool
    Edited by Brutusmax1mus on July 10, 2017 8:48PM
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    For a ganking nightblade this is a buff. Heavy att> incap and now the 3 seconds after viper is increased by 20%. Looool.
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    For a ganking nightblade this is a buff. Heavy att> incap and now the 3 seconds after viper is increased by 20%. Looool.

    Yup, that isn't including other silly things like Continuous Attack, Buffs from other players, etc.
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    Why not still use viper. Dmg stays the same and the 2x crit on the set got buffed. Pffft they need to reduce the actual dmg

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  • Glamdring
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    yeah, viper, selene will still be viable, just a slower death but still a death
    Edited by Glamdring on July 10, 2017 9:04PM
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    For a ganking nightblade this is a buff. Heavy att> incap and now the 3 seconds after viper is increased by 20%. Looool.

    Lmao good point.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.

    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
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    Is it buffed by thaum now?
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  • Koolio
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    GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »
    Viper will still be very strong. If anything it gives none dot based burst nightblade's now some sustained damage. Which means we drain stam from players blocking.

    Also the ability to proc Velidreth every second
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