When the destro ulti will be nerf ?

Flameheart · July 2017

When the destro ulti will be nerf ?

As a PvEer I hope never in special damagewise.

..and if Zos thinks it needs nerfing anyways, then just nerf the morph where the effect moves with you. Make it aimed and stationary and give it some other special effect and any issue (if there is one at all) is solved.

Although I am not a PvPer I damned like it when well coordinated groups farm whole zerg groups of mutagen spammers with that. In addition I play as a zergling myself often enough to get a feeling when the ultimates might be ready again and the next rush will happen. You shouldn't be suprised too, when the destro ultimate farm group vanished between the hills left from you and are suddenly rushing up to you from behind in full red-circle-glamour.

Chadak · July 2017

Nerf it in pvp only and I'll never care, because my favorite Elder Scrolls pvp is the pvp featured in Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind and Daggerfall.

Wolfenbelle · July 2017

What is with you PvP players always looking for nerfs? Seriously. Just in the last two days, someone started a thread to ask for a nerf to sorc pets. A second person posted a thread asking for a nerf to the warden fletcher fly skill. A third person posted a thread to ask for a nerf to warden cliff racer. A fourth person started a thread with a whole list of things they want, including several nerfs. Now you come along asking for a nerf to the destro ultimate. All this on top of recent whining about proc sets. And on top of the massive nerfs ZOS introduced with the Morrowind release.

When is enough, enough for you people? Just play the [blank] game as it is, not as you couch designers want it to be so your character never dies. Sheesh!!!!

lagrue · July 2017

DivinityDay wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Sorry 4 bad anglish
''When was you when Desto Ulti nerf?''
'' I was Chalman mine when Emperor call''
'' Desto Ulti is nerf''
''no''
''yes''

I feel like this is a riddle or something, how fun!

just butchery of an ancient meme

GreenSoup2HoT · July 2017

Destro ultimate will never be balanced until it returns to its pts damage model. Zos had it right the first time. PvE dps won't change but the burst will be lower and the duration longer. The way it should of been this entire time. Stacking the ultimate is what made it strong in pts but zos had to go and ruin it because 1v1/X players complained when it was suppose to be A GROUP BASED ULTIMATE.

SamboJ · July 2017

Magelight & detection pots.

No nerf required.

Vercingetorix · July 2017

You deserve to be lag-bombed if you move around in a dense zerg.

Solution: Don't zerg.

vamp_emily · July 2017

My character is not built for PvP ( very low health and resistance ) so I die often.

These are my favorite destro ulti moments

1. A NB Teleports in, Fears and then eye of storm = me dead
2. A Sorc moves my way, eye of storm, streaks = me dead

However, I am getting smarter, I keep my eyes open after taking resources now

watching for 15 EP with detro ulti's to come running out of the resource tower.

LadyDestiny · July 2017

Destro ults are hardly the worse thing to worry about in pvp.

DivinityDay · July 2017

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

DivinityDay wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

"Don't stand in red".

This.

This what?
They can gap close. It should be a ground aoe ulty or movable like Dragon Standard.

If not, a dmg reduction is a must.
People think that others are stupid. They know the skill is OP yet the provade lame counter measures.

0 skill involved in activating destro ulty.

If the ground is red, move. That.

BuddyAces · July 2017

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

What is with you PvP players always looking for nerfs? Seriously. Just in the last two days, someone started a thread to ask for a nerf to sorc pets. A second person posted a thread asking for a nerf to the warden fletcher fly skill. A third person posted a thread to ask for a nerf to warden cliff racer. A fourth person started a thread with a whole list of things they want, including several nerfs. Now you come along asking for a nerf to the destro ultimate. All this on top of recent whining about proc sets. And on top of the massive nerfs ZOS introduced with the Morrowind release.

When is enough, enough for you people? Just play the [blank] game as it is, not as you couch designers want it to be so your character never dies. Sheesh!!!!

Awesome post.

DivinityDay · July 2017

Chadak wrote: »

Nerf it in pvp only and I'll never care, because my favorite Elder Scrolls pvp is the pvp featured in Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind and Daggerfall.

Whoaaaaaa...how'd I miss the pvp in Skyrim?

GeorgeBlack · July 2017

"If the ground is red move"
Ty for the advice! Never though about moving away from red circles before!

mgNB can gap close.
mgSorc csn gap close.
magTemp can gap close.

Stupid suggestions... move out of red.

Broken skills are broken. Don't belittle others.

idk · July 2017

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

"If the ground is red move"
Ty for the advice! Never though about moving away from red circles before!

mgNB can gap close.
mgSorc csn gap close.
magTemp can gap close.

Stupid suggestions... move out of red.

Broken skills are broken. Don't belittle others.

Not that it makes a difference but all 5 classes can gap close with native skills.

Darzuk82 · July 2017

Get Gud.

Karm1cOne · July 2017

Please allow running through a negate to end it.

Pwnyridah · July 2017

Back away, dont stack and run when the red ring comes. This ult only hurts unprepared people...

O_LYKOS · July 2017

It's an ultimate. Most of them are very powerful. Works as intended.

redshirt_49 · July 2017

Crowzer wrote: »

When you dee the red zone... you already dead.

I see red, I roll-dodge. Think fast.

Enslaved wrote: »

Crowzer wrote: »

While proc sets burst a single target, destro ulti can wipe a groupe in a sec.

Now about 25k ppl will come here to tell you that you are clueless, that is bs and so on. Same ppl that yelled that CP are reason of no balance in PvP, same ppl that QQ about proc sets, same ppl that claim there are only NBs in Cyrodiil. In one word, zerglings. They like their broken ass destro ulti, since that is the peak of PvP they can comprehend.

While I see your point, "Just nerf it already!" is almost never the solution. That's going to hurt the PvEers and there'll be new threads of "dem pvpers r tryin to ruin our vet runs hurrdurr"
It's only as powerful as it is because some people are slow in reacting to it and die and others still die to it inspite of dodging because of server lag. And it's not like this only affects the destro ult.

So while some are crying to nerf this or nerf that because OPOPOPOPOPOP the real problem at the end of the day is lag.

old_mufasa · July 2017

Why do people say don't stand in red.. eye of the storm is locked to the player who cast it.. and they move just as fast as you do.. if not faster with gap closers.. so there is no getting out of red if you are the focus of such as player.. or in a tower, or other confined space..

Yes the skill is to break up zergs.. but more often is being used as the zerg to just farm AP and players. In the current meta I have died more to eye of the storm, proxy det groups then any thing else in game.. you spend more time running away from eye of the storm at times then fighting.. that's not healthy for the game.

Maybe what they need is to lower its base damage.. but have it each tick hit increase the damage of the next tick of eye of the storm but over the duration does the same amount of damage this would be for its own damage and wouldn't stack with other eye of the storms. It would lower burst while maintaining pve viability.

AshTal · July 2017

I suspect eye of the storm will get another nerf, the fact it centers on the player makes in insanely powerful as most people who use it have a few other burst abilities.

However I kinda like the fact the other morph works well against people with a battering ram. If they want to stand in it for 7 seconds its their own fault.

DHale · July 2017

Don't stand next to 20 people. Don't be a vampire if you can't take the heat. When you see a big circle..... run! Pro tip.

Diminish · July 2017

Ankael07 wrote: »

Sorry 4 bad anglish
''When was you when Desto Ulti nerf?''
'' I was Chalman mine when Emperor call''
'' Desto Ulti is nerf''
''no''
''yes''

Illuminati confirmed

murdomac101 · July 2017

It's such lame gameplay when an organised group just charge around with a dozen or more destro ultis running. It completely encourages Zerg play and is counter to the open world pvp gameplay that ESO pvp was built for

QuebraRegra · July 2017

maybe a better question is: "when will ZOS wake up and balance PVP seperately"... which is in many ways already the approach they have chosen (battlespirit, crit nerf, etc.).

Like ***, "just do it".

zcripturez · July 2017

Ankael07 wrote: »

Sorry 4 bad anglish
''When was you when Desto Ulti nerf?''
'' I was Chalman mine when Emperor call''
'' Desto Ulti is nerf''
''no''
''yes''

I read this in Yoda's voice

TequilaFire · July 2017

You people that keep saying to not stand in red are forgetting the destro ult user is spamming his gap closer to follow you.
Serious case of not actually playing what you preach to l2p.

seedubsrun · July 2017

if you get targeted by an ultimate you're probably going to die. If your group gets targeted by a group of ultimates, they're probably going to die. They're ultimates and as such are ultimate attacks. This makes sense. Res and try again. If anything though I could see a movement speed penalty applied when the one that follows the player is activated or make the dot into several dots shaped like deadric minefield when it's placed to give players a bit more chance to get out of the way/ miss some damage. Really though all classes have some kind of a gap closer. If you're being chased by a destro ulti gap closing then gap close on outta there, accept your death, or use one of several other skills to mitigate the damage, escape, or kill the ulti user.

TequilaFire · July 2017

seedubsrun wrote: »

if you get targeted by an ultimate you're probably going to die. If your group gets targeted by a group of ultimates, they're probably going to die. They're ultimates and as such are ultimate attacks. This makes sense. Res and try again. If anything though I could see a movement speed penalty applied when the one that follows the player is activated or make the dot into several dots shaped like deadric minefield when it's placed to give players a bit more chance to get out of the way/ miss some damage. Really though all classes have some kind of a gap closer. If you're being chased by a destro ulti gap closing then gap close on outta there, accept your death, or use one of several other skills to mitigate the damage, escape, or kill the ulti user.

Most of the people who are specializing in bombing with destro ult are actually stacking speed buffs as well.
Not all classes are sorcs with streak to escape.
I am not calling for a nerf just pointing out that the Eye morph is not so easy to avoid as some might suggest.
I usually roll out but a lot of the time the DK running with the bomb group has already spammed talons on you so unless you can out heal the destro you are dead.

PVE players don't experience the problems with the Eye morph, be hilarious to give mobs Eye of the flame though! lol

Uriel_Nocturne · July 2017

It's a *** Ultimate.

It should absolutely punish Players/NPC's in combat.

If it gets nerfed down like the suggestions for nerfing it in this thread, it will be no better than any other run-of-the-mill Skill. And then it would be just something else that sucks all the damn fun out of this game.

There's enough removal of "fun" at the hands of ZOS's incompetent developers and leadership as it is, they don't need help eviscerating what little fun is left in this game.

Also: I don't PvP at all, but those ... people advocating that Destro Ulti gets nerfed into oblivion would just ruin it in PvE. And yeah, I use Eye of the Storm in PvE, and quite a lot. It's extremely useful for my Main, who is a front-line DPS Mag character; and that Ultimate comes in extremely handy when facing off against World Bosses, Delve Bosses, Public Dungeon Bosses/Champions, etc.

The nerf suggestions are cancerous, and I pray that ZOS will never even consider them.