New 10-49 Battlegrounds!

The_Old_Goat · July 2017

I am super excited about this!

Turelus · July 2017

I would imagine it's going to be a lot more enjoyable for those in that bracket.

Well done ZOS on this one.

Koensol · July 2017

Thank god. No more lowbies.

Morgul667 · July 2017

This is nice

vyndral13preub18_ESO · July 2017

Hopefully they fixed the queue but if they didn't maybe splitting the queue will help it out some as well. Since most seem to say the queue works better when not as crowded.

But hopefully they fixed it...

Alcast · July 2017

Nice, but 8 weeks too late sadly.

laksikus · July 2017

get ready to get spanked

Asmael · July 2017

Wud have been nice to introduce it before all the new players ragequit due to being instarekt by just about anyone.

IwakuraLain42 · July 2017

As has been mentioned during the PTS cycle this will not change to much. There are way to many CP players that create and keep chars in that bracket (mostly in the CP enabled campaigns). Even if CP are disabled they *will* crush normal/starting players due to the fact that they know the mechanics of the game inside-out.
The only way to prevent this is to disallow players that have any CP chars to queue here.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

Wonder how many noobs have already gave up with pvp considering they've been feeding and getting stomped for a month.

Well done zos? Nah this should of been there on release, can't believe it took over a month.

Junkkis · July 2017

more interest new exp gain. hope its good nuff for pvp leveling...

Rex-Umbra · July 2017

Ruined the new players experience trying them out already.

Vapirko · July 2017

Still need pre made and pug queues.

Iyas · July 2017

Alcast wrote: »

Nice, but 8 weeks too late sadly.

exactly

GreenhaloX · July 2017

Awesome.. good for those wanting this. Now, can you also implement the same for dolmen and dungeons/undaunted dailies, etc. Now, I'm not hating on non-cp toons. Hey, we were all there once. However, just a conversation piece. Take dolmen, for example, when any non-CP toon shows up, the scene/dolmen will scale to the level and they will only be interacting at the dolmen with only other same non-cp toons.. vice versa with CP toons at a dolmen. Similar circumstances such as for a quest. If you had already done the quest in a certain area, but come upon it, that area/scene will scale to reflect such, etc.. I guess I'm rabbling..

Slurg · July 2017

When is this coming? I'd like to take my lowbie warden in before she graduates to veteran levels.

Iyas · July 2017

Slurg wrote: »

When is this coming? I'd like to take my lowbie warden in before she graduates to veteran levels.

Already arrived. Its in todays patchnotes

casparian · July 2017

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

As has been mentioned during the PTS cycle this will not change to much. There are way to many CP players that create and keep chars in that bracket (mostly in the CP enabled campaigns). Even if CP are disabled they *will* crush normal/starting players due to the fact that they know the mechanics of the game inside-out.
The only way to prevent this is to disallow players that have any CP chars to queue here.

Yes, that would be considerably friendlier to new players. But why should Battlegrounds be friendly to new players? I suppose that it might be better for ZOS if they were -- fewer newbies getting discouraged by losing might lead to more new players sticking around -- but I have nothing against learning curves.

It's good that new players won't be disadvantaged by being put up against max-level players with max-level gear in BGs anymore. But it's a bad idea to try to keep them from being disadvantaged solely by their lack of experience -- lack of experience ought to be a disadvantage.

MyKillv2.0 · July 2017

This is actually awesome news, is this just on PC or consoles as well?

Reverb · July 2017

edit - posted in wrong thread in error. Low level BG are an awesome idea. That is all.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · July 2017

It's on PC now but will be coming to consoles on the next patch/incremental for Xbox/ps4.

Stovahkiin · July 2017

Oh, when I read the thread title I thought you meant that they were making new BGs that could hold 10-49 players... was about to go on a rant about already having Cyrodiil for that. Bai bai

IwakuraLain42 · July 2017

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

It's on PC now but will be coming to consoles on the next patch/incremental for Xbox/ps4.

So this will be available the day after tomorrow (that's when the next incremental patch drops) ?

Chufu · July 2017

Good decision to bring in Level 10-49 Battlegrounds

Sausage · July 2017

Finally we're rocking it, it seems.

Sylosi · July 2017

casparian wrote: »

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

As has been mentioned during the PTS cycle this will not change to much. There are way to many CP players that create and keep chars in that bracket (mostly in the CP enabled campaigns). Even if CP are disabled they *will* crush normal/starting players due to the fact that they know the mechanics of the game inside-out.
The only way to prevent this is to disallow players that have any CP chars to queue here.

Yes, that would be considerably friendlier to new players. But why should Battlegrounds be friendly to new players? I suppose that it might be better for ZOS if they were -- fewer newbies getting discouraged by losing might lead to more new players sticking around -- but I have nothing against learning curves.

It's good that new players won't be disadvantaged by being put up against max-level players with max-level gear in BGs anymore. But it's a bad idea to try to keep them from being disadvantaged solely by their lack of experience -- lack of experience ought to be a disadvantage.

Lack of experience ought to be a disadvantage, on the other hand games, sports, etc that are actually successful (as opposed to the failed joke that PvP largely is in MMORPGs) for the most part don't place massively experienced participants up against newbies, or even place not so good experienced participants against very good experienced participants, because it frankly isn't fun for anyone who isn't a scrubcake, which is why they have things like leagues, ranking, systems, etc to try and avoid that.

Tsute · July 2017

Good. I have a still-not-leveled warden and have been hesitant to drop them into BGs for this exact reason. With a 10-49 bracket I can at least dip my toe into the pool.

Elvenpath · July 2017

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

It's on PC now but will be coming to consoles on the next patch/incremental for Xbox/ps4.

Ok, you put lowbie battleground but the question is, are they forced to join it or they still can queue for 50+ ???

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

idk · July 2017

Alcast wrote: »

Nice, but 8 weeks too late sadly.

Zos tends to not think things through.

Sallington · July 2017

Alcast wrote: »

Nice, but 8 weeks too late sadly.

I'm really hoping it's not too late to save battlegrounds. They should have NEVER been released in the state they were in, and it turned off just about every single person I've talked to to the idea of caring about BGs at all.

One of my guildies even started a guild specifically for BGs once they were announced. He was super excited about this, and was all-in with this new guild. Then, they were released..... and that was that. No point in a BG guild if no one wants to play BGs because they are broken and awful.

DaveMoeDee · July 2017

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

As has been mentioned during the PTS cycle this will not change to much. There are way to many CP players that create and keep chars in that bracket (mostly in the CP enabled campaigns). Even if CP are disabled they *will* crush normal/starting players due to the fact that they know the mechanics of the game inside-out.
The only way to prevent this is to disallow players that have any CP chars to queue here.

Yeah, seems like an easy way to farm new players.