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Dont nerf proc sets too bad @ZoS
Ihatenightblades
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Not a proc set guy in pvp but i happen to run proc sets on all of my pve toons because they help with dps and its 2 pieces that give u 2 bonus.
If u nerf them any more than you have i dont see a reason to run monster sets for dps .
Which would limit different play styles even more.
Although we have no idea what the actual changes will be or when they are coming but dont Screw this up by overdoing it
Its been over a year people have complained about procs but in that time i havnt heard ONE GOOD SUGGESTION on how to make them more balanced.
Only descent one i heard is if u are wearing more than one proc and one happens to go off all procs are on a 5 sec cool down that way you cant get hit with more than one proc in 5 seconds.
Any suggestion on how to improve them instead of demanding nerfs with no backup plan?
Btw i hope they don't nerf em only time i have trouble with procs is in non cp bg which is mainly why everybody is crying for nerf
Cp pvp i can take proc damage all day as long as you are in heavy armor or shield stacking in light. If you are in medium u better be dodge rolling so you dont get hit xD .
Edited by Ihatenightblades on July 8, 2017 9:21PM If u nerf them any more than you have i dont see a reason to run monster sets for dps .
Which would limit different play styles even more.
Although we have no idea what the actual changes will be or when they are coming but dont Screw this up by overdoing it
Its been over a year people have complained about procs but in that time i havnt heard ONE GOOD SUGGESTION on how to make them more balanced.
Only descent one i heard is if u are wearing more than one proc and one happens to go off all procs are on a 5 sec cool down that way you cant get hit with more than one proc in 5 seconds.
Any suggestion on how to improve them instead of demanding nerfs with no backup plan?
Btw i hope they don't nerf em only time i have trouble with procs is in non cp bg which is mainly why everybody is crying for nerf
Cp pvp i can take proc damage all day as long as you are in heavy armor or shield stacking in light. If you are in medium u better be dodge rolling so you dont get hit xD .
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭they will nerf them just enough so the devs will still be able to rely on them as a crutch to say "we play the game"13 -
soll✭✭✭I think they will make it like DOTs, so it will not hurt much PVE, but will remove insane burst from PVP.
At least thats what I hope to seeEU PC
I like to heal
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think they will make it like DOTs, so it will not hurt much PVE, but will remove insane burst from PVP.
At least thats what I hope to see
Making proc sets dot based is a little unfair to the classes who dont have access to purge. It also homogenises proc sets in general since there is also a bunch of dot based proc sets already.
This is not the correct solution.
The correct solution is to return critical hits on procs but make it so they scale according to your weapon/spell damage, weapon/spell critical, weapon/spell penetration only. That way heavy users wont be getting that much value from procs unless they stack weapon damage which may hurt sustain. Same thing goes for medium or light users, they will have stronger procs then heavy builds due to higher crit and weapon/spell damage but they cannot stack multiple procs because it will net low proc based damage due to the scaling requiring high stats.
That means it will be advantageous to use 1 proc set, 1 damage set and either 1 tank or sustain set. Gankers will gravitate to either 2 procs + 1 damage or 1 proc + 2 damage sets to get more value out of the proc based damage by reducing overall sustain or tankiness for more scaling onto proc's.
This in my opinion is the best way to balance out proc sets.PS4 NA DC5 -
Nyghthowler✭✭✭✭✭
✭If they would just pull their collective heads out and separate PvE and PvP all er, most of the nerf drama would die down.I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone equally !4 -
MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭This generalization of proc sets will kill what little build variety we have. If we have 65-70 sets that procs damage or healing only 8-9 of them are overperforming right now
I don't think there is any intention on doing a blanket Nerf to all proc sets. Obviously a bunch of them already suck. It's those eight or nine that need tweaking. Many sets already perform differently between PVE and PVP. This needs to be applied to the over-performing proc sets.
My suggestion is that on those sets simply add the language:
Damage dealt to enemy players is reduced by 50%“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”5 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
✭I PVE and I want them destroyed and never to be used again.I also want anyone who like proc sets to quit the game and never return we don't need your kind here.3 -
Malic✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's too late, people have been crying about them for a long time now. The horse has left the barn, ZOS like other *** MMO companies always water down their content and make things much easier for the casual crowd.
It never fails, follow the money.2 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You know what would be fun? Remove the 5pc proc sets, but buff the crap out of the monster ones, however give them a good delayed telegraph (Like Nerien'eth).
This would make them useful in PVE, while making them excellent zerg destroyers in PVP and less effective in small scale.4 -
Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭You know what would be fun? Remove the 5pc proc sets, but buff the crap out of the monster ones, however give them a good delayed telegraph (Like Nerien'eth).
This would make them useful in PVE, while making them excellent zerg destroyers in PVP and less effective in small scale.
"Buff the crap out of em" lol i dont know bout that
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Rikkof✭✭✭No, they must nerf those the same way they nerfed burning spellweave and other magika sets
to the ground, pls, burn down the house ZOS1 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You know what would be fun? Remove the 5pc proc sets, but buff the crap out of the monster ones, however give them a good delayed telegraph (Like Nerien'eth).
This would make them useful in PVE, while making them excellent zerg destroyers in PVP and less effective in small scale.
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BohnT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, they must nerf those the same way they nerfed burning spellweave and other magika sets
to the ground, pls, burn down the house ZOS
Oh hey, it's you again i thought you left the game and the forums with 2 posts where you announced your resign from eso.
If they nerf any proc set the same they did with bsw they'll still be op. Remember bsw was nerfed from 600 to 525 spelldmg and had its proc chance reduced by 5%. A set that absolutely dominated the game and was the go to set for any build except for pet sorc because stamina chars where pure garbage.
Good luck with this patch @Rikkof the gankers came back and now they are everywhere and they are stronger than before.
Before you open the next discussion about gankers let me pick up some popcorn and a cold beer
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Rikkof✭✭✭No, they must nerf those the same way they nerfed burning spellweave and other magika sets
to the ground, pls, burn down the house ZOS
Oh hey, it's you again i thought you left the game and the forums with 2 posts where you announced your resign from eso.
If they nerf any proc set the same they did with bsw they'll still be op. Remember bsw was nerfed from 600 to 525 spelldmg and had its proc chance reduced by 5%. A set that absolutely dominated the game and was the go to set for any build except for pet sorc because stamina chars where pure garbage.
Good luck with this patch @Rikkof the gankers came back and now they are everywhere and they are stronger than before.
Before you open the next discussion about gankers let me pick up some popcorn and a cold beer
yes they come back but ZOS is already going to nerf their playstyle hard, in case you did not watched the latest ZOS streams, from gear to abilities they will get nerfed all across the board (it will lead to a healthy pvp environment)
I play mag sorc and all nerfs to stamina classes are ok min my book, kk tnx bye
Also, one more dude to add to my ignore list, tnx for poping in this thread (BohnT is now on ignore.)Edited by Rikkof on July 9, 2017 1:48AM0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I am expecting an insignificant change to proc sets. Like an across the board 2% damage nerf.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭so pve will once again bear the brunt of the neverending pvp and whine chorus.
marvelous.
once this nerf goes through, they'll immediately find something else to yap and snap about.
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭so pve will once again bear the brunt of the neverending pvp and whine chorus.
marvelous.
once this nerf goes through, they'll immediately find something else to yap and snap about.
You obviously missed the part where pvpers ask for it to be tied to battle spirit so it doesn't affect you. But I keep forgetting you guys like to whine at us instead of the people actually making the changes.2 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭disable them in battlegrounds.
bg, liso pve will once again bear the brunt of the neverending pvp and whine chorus.
marvelous.
once this nerf goes through, they'll immediately find something else to yap and snap about.
You obviously missed the part where pvpers ask for it to be tied to battle spirit so it doesn't affect you. But I keep forgetting you guys like to whine at us instead of the people actually making the changes.
you guys?
you assume i don't pvp.
that'd be 2 mike, in the dirt.
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭disable them in battlegrounds.
bg, liso pve will once again bear the brunt of the neverending pvp and whine chorus.
marvelous.
once this nerf goes through, they'll immediately find something else to yap and snap about.
You obviously missed the part where pvpers ask for it to be tied to battle spirit so it doesn't affect you. But I keep forgetting you guys like to whine at us instead of the people actually making the changes.
you guys?
you assume i don't pvp.
that'd be 2 mike, in the dirt.
You did say "they'll", indicating you're not one of them, so yeah, I assumed that.1 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭disable them in battlegrounds.
bg, liso pve will once again bear the brunt of the neverending pvp and whine chorus.
marvelous.
once this nerf goes through, they'll immediately find something else to yap and snap about.
You obviously missed the part where pvpers ask for it to be tied to battle spirit so it doesn't affect you. But I keep forgetting you guys like to whine at us instead of the people actually making the changes.
you guys?
you assume i don't pvp.
that'd be 2 mike, in the dirt.
You did say "they'll", indicating you're not one of them, so yeah, I assumed that.
you know what they say about assuming.
and 'they' will find something to *** about; you know it as well as i do.0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭disable them in battlegrounds.
bg, liso pve will once again bear the brunt of the neverending pvp and whine chorus.
marvelous.
once this nerf goes through, they'll immediately find something else to yap and snap about.
You obviously missed the part where pvpers ask for it to be tied to battle spirit so it doesn't affect you. But I keep forgetting you guys like to whine at us instead of the people actually making the changes.
you guys?
you assume i don't pvp.
that'd be 2 mike, in the dirt.
You did say "they'll", indicating you're not one of them, so yeah, I assumed that.
and 'they' will find something to *** about; you know it as well as i do.
Oh I'm not arguing with you there0 -
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✭If proc sets are still a thing, it will be a problem.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?2 -
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✭✭You know guys, you really need to start playing the game instead of your armor doing it for you.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?6 -
mewcatus✭✭✭In PvP, all set bonuses should be fully nullified, so it will just be class vs class. This will remove all this meaningless debate on nerfs. Problem solved.2
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭so pve will once again bear the brunt of the neverending pvp and whine chorus.
marvelous.
once this nerf goes through, they'll immediately find something else to yap and snap about.
You obviously missed the part where pvpers ask for it to be tied to battle spirit so it doesn't affect you. But I keep forgetting you guys like to whine at us instead of the people actually making the changes.
And you don't understand that these devs can't/wont separate the 2 playstyles in changes.0 -
Trinity_Is_My_Name✭✭✭✭✭
✭They could easily turn off proc sets in Cyrodil and Battlegrounds. Done.5
