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Is the bow skill line weaker than before?
Bladerunner1
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Every single bow skill relies on Hawk Eye and Long Shots for damage buffs, but I noticed that those buffs are in the same boat as execute ability buffs, they are added to the Champion system buffs instead of multiplied. Was it like this before Morrowind?
With CP:
hawk eye +18.8% (due to my CP arrangement)
long shots + 9.03% (Due to my CP arrangement)
Without CP:
Hawk Eye + 24.98%
long Shots + 11.98%
With CP:
hawk eye +18.8% (due to my CP arrangement)
long shots + 9.03% (Due to my CP arrangement)
Without CP:
Hawk Eye + 24.98%
long Shots + 11.98%
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SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »I don't know, but that could explain why my bow builds are doing so well in BG's compared to CP PVP. Very interesting.
That was always this way. Main reason I enjoyed noCP before this patch (now the sustain is bad and nobody plays noCP campaign). Bow with the weak base damage and no passives to help it gain the least amount from % damage increase of CP.
If the CP 'decrease' the value even from the % (like with executes) passive that boost only bow skills then it is just cherry on top
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Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »I don't know, but that could explain why my bow builds are doing so well in BG's compared to CP PVP. Very interesting.
That was always this way. Main reason I enjoyed noCP before this patch (now the sustain is bad and nobody plays noCP campaign). Bow with the weak base damage and no passives to help it gain the least amount from % damage increase of CP.
If the CP 'decrease' the value even from the % (like with executes) passive that boost only bow skills then it is just cherry on top
Never really did a bunch of no CP pvp before now. Did a little and enjoyed it but not much.
One of the advantages I have found with BG's is worst case scenario its 8v1 but even then the 8 are split in fighting each other as well. There is a lot more room to work if you are capable enough and position yourself well.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..5
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Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't know, but that could explain why my bow builds are doing so well in BG's compared to CP PVP. Very interesting.Edited by Toc de Malsvi on July 8, 2017 1:21AMLegendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..0 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭2.7.2 - Base damage
The base damage formula is
where
Attacker Bonus has three components
CP Bonus is typically Elemental Expert for direct damage abilities or the sum of Elemental Expert and Thaumathurge for damage over time abilities.
This came from a post by @asayre:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3761016/#Comment_3761016
If I'm reading the equation correctly, CP would have always been multiplied against the damage bonus. But I wasn't paying attention before Morrowind, was this the case for long shots and hawk eye?Toc de Malsvi wrote: »I don't know, but that could explain why my bow builds are doing so well in BG's compared to CP PVP. Very interesting.
Isn't it strange that all bow skills are 9% weaker in PVE than they are in battlegrounds PVP (*edit* when compared to other weapons)? I thought the bow burst damage was reduced in the first place to balance PVP.Edited by Bladerunner1 on July 8, 2017 1:20PM0