Javelin, Heavy Attack, Lethal Arrow

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

all in one attack, Yep, Snuggies are truly evil. Skill or modded controller?

Yeah. I'm going with the latter.

Ajaxduo · July 2017

Sounds like they are just using the delay of abilities to all hit at once. Two of those have travel time, you can also anim cancel javelin.

raasdal · July 2017

And how would a modded controller make anyone ignore GCD?

That combo is pretty easy to make, where all 3 hit at the same time.

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Sounds like they are just using the delay of abilities to all hit at once. Two of those have travel time, you can also anim cancel javelin.

Nah. Same guy did five attacks on me at once a few days ago on a different character - 2 crystal shards, 2 heavy attacks, and haunting curse.

modded controller

GreenSoup2HoT · July 2017

Sounds like Lethal Arrow>Heavy Att>Javelin. Lethal arrow has a large delay and you can basically wind up a heavy attack/jav combo and they will all hit within the stun. Not a bug. Just smart use of the long delay lethal arrow has.

GreenSoup2HoT · July 2017

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Sounds like they are just using the delay of abilities to all hit at once. Two of those have travel time, you can also anim cancel javelin.

Nah. Same guy did five attacks on me at once a few days ago on a different character - 2 crystal shards, 2 heavy attacks, and haunting curse.

modded controller

it doesn't matter if you have a modded controller. all abilities regardless have a 1 second global cooldown.

Runs · July 2017

*Lethal attack, heavy attack, Javelin... in that order should arrive at target at about the same time, no?

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Sounds like they are just using the delay of abilities to all hit at once. Two of those have travel time, you can also anim cancel javelin.

Nah. Same guy did five attacks on me at once a few days ago on a different character - 2 crystal shards, 2 heavy attacks, and haunting curse.

modded controller

it doesn't matter if you have a modded controller. all abilities regardless have a 1 second global cooldown.

Five attacks. All at once. In a single strike. No cooldown.

SodanTok · July 2017

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Sounds like they are just using the delay of abilities to all hit at once. Two of those have travel time, you can also anim cancel javelin.

Nah. Same guy did five attacks on me at once a few days ago on a different character - 2 crystal shards, 2 heavy attacks, and haunting curse.

modded controller

it doesn't matter if you have a modded controller. all abilities regardless have a 1 second global cooldown.

Five attacks. All at once. In a single strike. No cooldown.

You had lag.

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Sounds like Lethal Arrow>Heavy Att>Javelin. Lethal arrow has a large delay and you can basically wind up a heavy attack/jav combo and they will all hit within the stun. Not a bug. Just smart use of the long delay lethal arrow has.

I wrote it the order of he death recap - javelin, heavy attack, arrow.

Alucardo · July 2017

Probably a short ping spike. Sometimes you get them without even realising it. All it takes is a quick one to queue up a few attacks and kablamo.
Macros and such things don't let you attack faster, it's just a lazy way of playing.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Sounds like Lethal Arrow>Heavy Att>Javelin. Lethal arrow has a large delay and you can basically wind up a heavy attack/jav combo and they will all hit within the stun. Not a bug. Just smart use of the long delay lethal arrow has.

I wrote it the order of he death recap - javelin, heavy attack, arrow.

Listen to what people are saying ffs.

You cannot ignore the 1 second global cooldown between skills. they can't do it on PC with macro's they can't do it on console with a 'modded controller'

What would a modded controller achieve anyway?

Izaki · July 2017

Its impossible to cast skills sooner than every 1 second. Period. No form of "modded controller" or even macros can do that.

Or is this one of those: I got killed and the dude who killed me is cheating.

The combo is a pretty damn common one too: Lethal Arrow > Full Heavy Attack > Javelin. Due to travel times, Javelin (one of the fastest projectiles in the game) hits the target first and CC's the opponent, then Lethal Arrow (one of the slowest, if not the slowest, projectiles in the game) and Heavy Attack (moderate travel speed) hit roughly at the same time.

You gonna keep denying the obvious or you're going to listen to what people tell you?

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

SodanTok wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Sounds like they are just using the delay of abilities to all hit at once. Two of those have travel time, you can also anim cancel javelin.

Nah. Same guy did five attacks on me at once a few days ago on a different character - 2 crystal shards, 2 heavy attacks, and haunting curse.

modded controller

it doesn't matter if you have a modded controller. all abilities regardless have a 1 second global cooldown.

Five attacks. All at once. In a single strike. No cooldown.

You had lag.

I've played daily for two years. I know the difference between lag and something else entirely. There are about 15 payers in Vivec who use those controllers. Unless you're saying they can produce lag at will.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

Ajaxduo wrote: »

Sounds like they are just using the delay of abilities to all hit at once. Two of those have travel time, you can also anim cancel javelin.

Nah. Same guy did five attacks on me at once a few days ago on a different character - 2 crystal shards, 2 heavy attacks, and haunting curse.

modded controller

it doesn't matter if you have a modded controller. all abilities regardless have a 1 second global cooldown.

Five attacks. All at once. In a single strike. No cooldown.

You had lag.

I've played daily for two years. I know the difference between lag and something else entirely. There are about 15 payers in Vivec who use those controllers. Unless you're saying they can produce lag at will.

Well you don't know anything as your convinced these magicka controllers have somehow hacked the game server side.

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Sounds like Lethal Arrow>Heavy Att>Javelin. Lethal arrow has a large delay and you can basically wind up a heavy attack/jav combo and they will all hit within the stun. Not a bug. Just smart use of the long delay lethal arrow has.

I wrote it the order of he death recap - javelin, heavy attack, arrow.

Listen to what people are saying ffs.

You cannot ignore the 1 second global cooldown between skills. they can't do it on PC with macro's they can't do it on console with a 'modded controller'

What would a modded controller achieve anyway?

You could ask the same question about why would anyone ever play god mode.

It gives them cheap thrills.

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

Alucardo wrote: »

Probably a short ping spike. Sometimes you get them without even realising it. All it takes is a quick one to queue up a few attacks and kablamo.
Macros and such things don't let you attack faster, it's just a lazy way of playing.

Same nmes. Same set of skills. Over and over. Same names.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Probably a short ping spike. Sometimes you get them without even realising it. All it takes is a quick one to queue up a few attacks and kablamo.
Macros and such things don't let you attack faster, it's just a lazy way of playing.

Same nmes. Same set of skills. Over and over. Same names.

Give us a video.

I want to see this happen.

Izaki · July 2017

Do I need to copy paste my previous comment or what?

Here goes:

Its impossible to cast skills sooner than every 1 second. Period. No form of "modded controller" or even macros can do that.

Or is this one of those: I got killed and the dude who killed me is cheating.

The combo is a pretty damn common one too:
Lethal Arrow > Full Heavy Attack > Javelin. Due to travel times, Javelin (one of the fastest projectiles in the game) hits the target first and CC's the opponent, then Lethal Arrow (one of the slowest, if not the slowest, projectiles in the game) and Heavy Attack (moderate travel speed) hit roughly at the same time.

Basically its the same thing as: Cloak > Assassin's Scourge > Heavy Attack > Ambush (aka ganking), where all these skills hit at the same time. Its just clever timing.

You gonna keep denying the obvious or you're going to listen to what people tell you?

Deedleqwerty · July 2017

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Do I need to copy paste my previous comment or what?

Here goes:

Its impossible to cast skills sooner than every 1 second. Period. No form of "modded controller" or even macros can do that.

Or is this one of those: I got killed and the dude who killed me is cheating.

The combo is a pretty damn common one too:
Lethal Arrow > Full Heavy Attack > Javelin. Due to travel times, Javelin (one of the fastest projectiles in the game) hits the target first and CC's the opponent, then Lethal Arrow (one of the slowest, if not the slowest, projectiles in the game) and Heavy Attack (moderate travel speed) hit roughly at the same time.

Basically its the same thing as: Cloak > Assassin's Scourge > Heavy Attack > Ambush (aka ganking), where all these skills hit at the same time. Its just clever timing.

You gonna keep denying the obvious or you're going to listen to what people tell you?

It's impossible that the world is round. It's impossible that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth. It's impossible to hack a 42-bit key. It's impossible for bi banks to fail. blah blah blah.

Izaki · July 2017

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Do I need to copy paste my previous comment or what?

Here goes:

Its impossible to cast skills sooner than every 1 second. Period. No form of "modded controller" or even macros can do that.

Or is this one of those: I got killed and the dude who killed me is cheating.

The combo is a pretty damn common one too:
Lethal Arrow > Full Heavy Attack > Javelin. Due to travel times, Javelin (one of the fastest projectiles in the game) hits the target first and CC's the opponent, then Lethal Arrow (one of the slowest, if not the slowest, projectiles in the game) and Heavy Attack (moderate travel speed) hit roughly at the same time.

Basically its the same thing as: Cloak > Assassin's Scourge > Heavy Attack > Ambush (aka ganking), where all these skills hit at the same time. Its just clever timing.

You gonna keep denying the obvious or you're going to listen to what people tell you?

It's impossible that the world is round. It's impossible that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth. It's impossible to hack a 42-bit key. It's impossible for bi banks to fail. blah blah blah.

4/10 Troll and frankly if you're not trolling, then you might want to take some of that L2P and some of that L2MechanicsOfTheGameYouPlay

SodanTok · July 2017

Deedleqwerty wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Do I need to copy paste my previous comment or what?

Here goes:

Its impossible to cast skills sooner than every 1 second. Period. No form of "modded controller" or even macros can do that.

Or is this one of those: I got killed and the dude who killed me is cheating.

The combo is a pretty damn common one too:
Lethal Arrow > Full Heavy Attack > Javelin. Due to travel times, Javelin (one of the fastest projectiles in the game) hits the target first and CC's the opponent, then Lethal Arrow (one of the slowest, if not the slowest, projectiles in the game) and Heavy Attack (moderate travel speed) hit roughly at the same time.

Basically its the same thing as: Cloak > Assassin's Scourge > Heavy Attack > Ambush (aka ganking), where all these skills hit at the same time. Its just clever timing.

You gonna keep denying the obvious or you're going to listen to what people tell you?

It's impossible that the world is round. It's impossible that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth. It's impossible to hack a 42-bit key. It's impossible for bi banks to fail. blah blah blah.

Stuff you said was always possible. Just one opinion was above others.

Your problem is more akin to "it is impossible to stop Sun's rotation by modifying my solar panel"

but to give you at least 'small piece', it could be some ingame bug and they are abusing it. That is the only way you could call them cheaters while keeping it possible. Not by some controller mod.

Thogard · July 2017

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Do I need to copy paste my previous comment or what?

Here goes:

Its impossible to cast skills sooner than every 1 second. Period. No form of "modded controller" or even macros can do that.

Or is this one of those: I got killed and the dude who killed me is cheating.

The combo is a pretty damn common one too:
Lethal Arrow > Full Heavy Attack > Javelin. Due to travel times, Javelin (one of the fastest projectiles in the game) hits the target first and CC's the opponent, then Lethal Arrow (one of the slowest, if not the slowest, projectiles in the game) and Heavy Attack (moderate travel speed) hit roughly at the same time.

Basically its the same thing as: Cloak > Assassin's Scourge > Heavy Attack > Ambush (aka ganking), where all these skills hit at the same time. Its just clever timing.

You gonna keep denying the obvious or you're going to listen to what people tell you?

Actually if you really wanted to, you could throttle your own internet connection with your router to make the skills hit at the same time.

I don't think the global cooldown is necessarily server side... there have been a few times when I've lagged out and when I come back, 2-3 skills fire at once.