Evil Hunter or Deadly Cloak?

wesmont65 · July 2017

Hi all,

Question for all the more experienced guys. Ok, so I am an Orc stamsorc at 440cp now, i still don't have any monster sets, i'll go for Krag'h/ Velidreth, i am currently running 5 Hundings / 5 Spriggan's.

Main bar: Rending Slashes, Rapid strikes, Deadly Cloak, Hurricane, Bound Armaments
Back Bar: Hail., Trap, Injection, Armaments, Surge.

On the training skeleton I am at 20k dps right now but if i replace Cloak with Hunter my dps does up 2-3k. My question is if Cloak is absolutely necessary on a vet dungeon or normal trial or should i keep Hunter on my front bar. Another question is: with my current set up is it possible to get higher dps or do i have to use something else like TFS / Hundings or I just need to get better on my rotation.

Thanks in advance.

Ghettokid · July 2017

Wow you're very handsome fellow.

wesmont65 · July 2017

Ghettokid wrote: »

Wow you're very handsome fellow.

lol

Vapirko · July 2017

That's just one of those personal preferences. If you can get more dps with the higher crit then run that if you have a good group. If you're going solo, have a shoddy group or are clearing adds you may want to go blade cloak. It's probably going to be a difference in single target vs trash pulls.

Asardes · July 2017

It depends. You need to slot camouflaged hunter you get major savagery, which boosts your critical chance by 10% and adds 3% to your weapon damage from skill line passive. That means at least 5% more DPS, probably much more if you have invested CP in precise strikes. If you have more critical rating you also get more heals out of surge.

You can indeed drop hunter if you use major brutality & savagery stamina potions, which also save your surge slot from back bar. Then you can slot deadly cloak on your front bar and move hurricane to the back bar. But that's more a setup for trials and harder vet dungeons, where you have full support from your group and don't need to have a self heal, but need to do maximum DPS and also have mitigation to avoid one-shots.

wesmont65 · July 2017

Asardes wrote: »

It depends. You need to slot camouflaged hunter you get major savagery, which boosts your critical chance by 10% and adds 2% to your weapon damage from skill line passive. That means at least 5% more DPS, probably much more if you have invested CP in precise strikes. If you have more critical rating you also get more heals out of surge.

You can indeed drop hunter if you use major brutality & savagery stamina potions, which also save your surge slot from back bar. Then you can slot deadly cloak on your front bar and move hurricane to the back bar. But that's more a setup for trials and harder vet dungeons, where you have full support from your group and don't need to have a self heal, but need to do maximum DPS and also have mitigation to avoid one-shots.

awesome!! Yes i was thinking what to do when i am not using pots to get brutality & savagery. On the other hand, on my second question, do you think i can squeeze out more dps with my current set up or i should go for the BIS gear plus the vma bow to get to the 30-35k dps level.

Asardes · July 2017

wesmont65 wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

It depends. You need to slot camouflaged hunter you get major savagery, which boosts your critical chance by 10% and adds 2% to your weapon damage from skill line passive. That means at least 5% more DPS, probably much more if you have invested CP in precise strikes. If you have more critical rating you also get more heals out of surge.

You can indeed drop hunter if you use major brutality & savagery stamina potions, which also save your surge slot from back bar. Then you can slot deadly cloak on your front bar and move hurricane to the back bar. But that's more a setup for trials and harder vet dungeons, where you have full support from your group and don't need to have a self heal, but need to do maximum DPS and also have mitigation to avoid one-shots.

awesome!! Yes i was thinking what to do when i am not using pots to get brutality & savagery. On the other hand, on my second question, do you think i can squeeze out more dps with my current set up or i should go for the BIS gear plus the vma bow to get to the 30-35k dps level.

I think the best setup ATM is 5 TFS 5 VO 2 Krag'h/Velidreth, with Maelstrom bow on the back bar. You need the full VO for sustain, but getting sharp weapons can be a pain because of RNG. Or you can get one sharp, one precise or infused, and put a few CP in penetration to make up for it. In any case TFS is best on body because you don't want the bonus to drop when you swap bars, so the weapons and preferably the jewelry need to be VO. VO gold jewelry is actually easy to get, because it drops far more often than the specific trial sets.

wesmont65 · July 2017

Thanks mate, i think i have 2-3 TFS pieces, now i need to farm the rest and especially the vma bow.

DRXHarbinger · July 2017

Stam sorc doesn't need cloak outside of vet trials with mass aoe damage.

Asardes · July 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Stam sorc doesn't need cloak outside of vet trials with mass aoe damage.

I would also add vCoS HM to that list. It's really nasty for any stamina DD with the bombs from the statue being almost one shot even when blocked.

wesmont65 · July 2017

great!! thank you guys, so I'll go with Hunter and change to Cloak depending on the difficulty of the task.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2017

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Stam sorc doesn't need cloak outside of vet trials with mass aoe damage.

Unless you like running into eye of the storm zergs .

wesmont65 · July 2017

Actually i was thinking:

If i replace Cloak with Hunter on my front bar I'll have: Rending Slashes, Rapid Strikes, Hunter, Hurricane, Armaments
on my bow bar: Hail, Trap, Injection, Armaments and Surge.
Now, we all know that our hardest hitting skill is Endless Hail and if I go for that configuration then there's a big difference in WD and Critical Chance between the 2 bars.

So I was thinking to move Hunter on my back bar and Surge on the front to close the gap.