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Any news on fixing the dye issues for "Holiday in Balmora" costume??
Recremen
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It looks absolutely gorgeous but I just can't bring myself to get it if it's going to look so drab! From what's been shown on the forums and in game to me, it looks like it has the worst dyeing capacity of any costume in the history of the game, completely unable to take dark or vibrant tones whatsoever. Even the recent Argonian costumes do better than that, if only just barely!! Please let us know when this will be fixed, it's very important not just to be able to get fun costumes but to set them apart with colors that reflect our own individual tastes!
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lientier✭✭✭✭I am actually quite happy how my argonian costumes turned out, since when you wear an argonian costume less vibrant colours (so muddy colours) are fitting. I am often annoyed by the stronger (eg darker) colours also starting to glisten as if my character is gvered i glitter and oil.
As for the balmora costume.. its really a bit too light and colours seems on the front as if nearly not applied.PC-EU @lientier1 -
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✭Agreed. It's such a shame too, as it was the one I was looking forward to.Edited by bottleofsyrup on July 5, 2017 4:45PM0 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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faerigirl✭✭✭✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
this may be true but...
the top part dyed Venom (green) is gray, dyed any shade of blue it's gray, dyed any shade of red it's slightly pinkish gray (a tad darker pink from behind)2 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
this may be true but...
the top part dyed Venom (green) is gray, dyed any shade of blue it's gray, dyed any shade of red it's slightly pinkish gray (a tad darker pink from behind)
They may well have wanted this costume to be muted, sort of fitting the whole aesthetic of Vvardenfell if you ask me. Truth of the matter is we don't know one way or the other with out official statement.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
Show Me Your Dunmer
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Ghanima_Atreides✭✭✭✭✭
✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
No, but the point of having dyes is giving the players a choice of whether something is saturated or not. This isn't the first outfit with such an issue (undyeable brown girdle on Dunmer robes, I'm looking at you) but it's quite a drawback for those who envisioned having a dark/richly-coloured corset for their character.[The Beauty of Tamriel] My collection of ESO screenshots
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✭✭✭✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
this may be true but...
the top part dyed Venom (green) is gray, dyed any shade of blue it's gray, dyed any shade of red it's slightly pinkish gray (a tad darker pink from behind)
They may well have wanted this costume to be muted, sort of fitting the whole aesthetic of Vvardenfell if you ask me. Truth of the matter is we don't know one way or the other with out official statement.
The holiday crown stamp dyes don't grey out at all...
Almost every unlocked dye gets greyed out into unrecognizable territory...Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
this may be true but...
the top part dyed Venom (green) is gray, dyed any shade of blue it's gray, dyed any shade of red it's slightly pinkish gray (a tad darker pink from behind)
They may well have wanted this costume to be muted, sort of fitting the whole aesthetic of Vvardenfell if you ask me. Truth of the matter is we don't know one way or the other with out official statement.
The holiday crown stamp dyes don't grey out at all...
Almost every unlocked dye gets greyed out into unrecognizable territory...
Those are super saturated colors (look at how bright they are on other costumes) and if you look at those specific dyes on the pants/boots you can see that the top is indeed muted comparatively.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
Show Me Your Dunmer
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faerigirl✭✭✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
this may be true but...
the top part dyed Venom (green) is gray, dyed any shade of blue it's gray, dyed any shade of red it's slightly pinkish gray (a tad darker pink from behind)
They may well have wanted this costume to be muted, sort of fitting the whole aesthetic of Vvardenfell if you ask me. Truth of the matter is we don't know one way or the other with out official statement.
The holiday crown stamp dyes don't grey out at all...
Almost every unlocked dye gets greyed out into unrecognizable territory...
Oh. So if you purchase dyes on the crown store they don't gray out?0 -
Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭The problem with fixing it is that a lot of people have bought it and dyed it how they like it. If you change how it dyes it might make you happy but also make them unhappy.
Personally I am happy with it. I like how on the back the color is darker on the midline and then fades.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault0 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
@Sigtric
There is no need for the costume itself to take dyes badly. If people want muted colors there are literally dozens of great choices. Not everything is or should be super saturated with color, but that really comes down to individual taste, doesn't it? I enjoy extremely vibrant colors on my main character because that's his thing. For other characters it varies a great deal, but this is really only an outfit I'd use on my main anyway. Really, there's no reason not to give players control over this, it's not like it will horribly clash with Vvardenfell's aesthetics any more than the most recently holiday dyes do.Edited by Recremen on July 5, 2017 5:32PMMen'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
@Sigtric
There is no need for the costume itself to take dyes badly. If people want muted colors there are literally dozens of great choices. Not everything is or should be super saturated with color, but that really comes down to individual taste, doesn't it? I enjoy extremely vibrant colors on my main character because that's his thing. For other characters it varies a great deal, but this is really only an outfit I'd use on my main anyway. Really, there's no reason not to give players control over this, it's not like it will horribly clash with Vvardenfell's aesthetics any more than the most recently holiday dyes do.
No need is personal opinion.
All I am saying is this could be working as intended. If that's the case then no fix needed. Do people want different? Some do, but that's asking for something that's already been sold to be changed.
I was just using Vvardenfell aesthetics as a possible reason it may have been designed this way, if that is indeed the case. Other costumes dye-ability have no bearing on this.
Again it comes down to the truth is we don't know. Only ZOS knows if WAI or not.
At this point I have to agree with this Osteos above.
The big matter at hand as I see it is they need to add dye preview to the crownstore preview.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
Show Me Your Dunmer
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DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
this may be true but...
the top part dyed Venom (green) is gray, dyed any shade of blue it's gray, dyed any shade of red it's slightly pinkish gray (a tad darker pink from behind)
They may well have wanted this costume to be muted, sort of fitting the whole aesthetic of Vvardenfell if you ask me. Truth of the matter is we don't know one way or the other with out official statement.
The holiday crown stamp dyes don't grey out at all...
Almost every unlocked dye gets greyed out into unrecognizable territory...
Oh. So if you purchase dyes on the crown store they don't gray out?
At least the holiday dyes, yeah. But they are garishly bright by design, so it's hardly conclusive.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub0 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Before anything can be fixed, it requires that it actually be broken.
It might be working exactly as intended. Not everything is super saturated with color.
@Sigtric
There is no need for the costume itself to take dyes badly. If people want muted colors there are literally dozens of great choices. Not everything is or should be super saturated with color, but that really comes down to individual taste, doesn't it? I enjoy extremely vibrant colors on my main character because that's his thing. For other characters it varies a great deal, but this is really only an outfit I'd use on my main anyway. Really, there's no reason not to give players control over this, it's not like it will horribly clash with Vvardenfell's aesthetics any more than the most recently holiday dyes do.
No need is personal opinion.
All I am saying is this could be working as intended. If that's the case then no fix needed. Do people want different? Some do, but that's asking for something that's already been sold to be changed.
I was just using Vvardenfell aesthetics as a possible reason it may have been designed this way, if that is indeed the case. Other costumes dye-ability have no bearing on this.
Again it comes down to the truth is we don't know. Only ZOS knows if WAI or not.
At this point I have to agree with this Osteos above.
The big matter at hand as I see it is they need to add dye preview to the crownstore preview.
@Sigtric
They change things after selling them all the time, I don't see that as being a barrier. And again, you'd be able to reproduce what I've seen the outfit dyed as using existing dyes in the game, so changing it to take dyes properly would only be a benefit. Even if someone somehow didn't already have the dye they wanted to reproduce their current effect, it would be easy to go grab that dye because low-tier dyes are easy as cake to come by.
Point is, even if it were working as intended, which seems remarkably unlikely just due to how striking and unprecedented its poor dye performance is, the art team has been overall quite good at responding to problems related to costume aesthetics. Anyone remember how the old Trinimac light armor looked on female models? They changed that to be more in line with player expectations. There has been quite a lot of chatter on the forums regarding how this dyes, so I believe that it's a candidate for similar treatment. And again, people who already like how it dyes can easily reproduce their current effect using low-tier, easy-to-obtain dyes.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Tecorsuh✭✭The problem with fixing it is that a lot of people have bought it and dyed it how they like it. If you change how it dyes it might make you happy but also make them unhappy.
Personally I am happy with it. I like how on the back the color is darker on the midline and then fades.
No color looks right. For example, In the screen caps I took, Viridian Venom, Voidstone Violet, and Coldharbor Ash Black, all look identical. Magnus Setting Red, looks purple. Blade Master Mauve is blue instead of purple. In general, all of the "rare" dyes look dull, muted, or discolored. The less vibrant, more muted dyes work better, but even some of those are dull, muted, or discolored.
I really do wish that they would change it so colors look right. I wouldn't care if there was a slight gradient on the front, but the discoloration of the dyes is what peeves me.
Here is my post from a different Holiday in Balmora Costume thread with the screen caps.Just to drive home that this costume doesn't dye very well here is a comparison to 2 other costumes that do dye well.
"Holiday in Balmora" Costume:
http://imgur.com/a/sina0
Cyrod Patrician Formal Gown:
http://imgur.com/a/1XEQt
Regalia of the Scarlet Judge:
http://imgur.com/a/XSvux
I'm only picking on this costume because it is new, there are plenty of other costumes and armor that suffer a similar fate.
EDIT: Fixed some wordingEdited by Tecorsuh on July 5, 2017 7:37PM0 -
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✭✭It took some trial and error, but I was eventually able to come up with a look I liked for it.
I agree that most colors are a bit too washed out on it though.Playing since beta...0 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The problem with fixing it is that a lot of people have bought it and dyed it how they like it. If you change how it dyes it might make you happy but also make them unhappy.
Personally I am happy with it. I like how on the back the color is darker on the midline and then fades.
yah changing the way the dye behaves will anger all 18 of the people that like the dyes that way2 -
kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The problem with fixing it is that a lot of people have bought it and dyed it how they like it. If you change how it dyes it might make you happy but also make them unhappy.
Personally I am happy with it. I like how on the back the color is darker on the midline and then fades.
yah changing the way the dye behaves will anger all 18 of the people that like the dyes that way
For me I would be happy to re-dye it if more of the colors looked good on it.Playing since beta...2 -
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✭I knew it dyed weird. But I bought it anyways hoping I could come up with something that I would like for one of my characters. Didn't work out.
I know plenty of people are happy with it, or found color combinations that worked for them. And I know there are costumes that I think are amazing that other people cannot stand, Its just personal preference, a matter of opinion. I don't expect this outfit to be changed.PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts0 -
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✭Was kinda bummed I can't dye it any shade of green, even a grayish green. Just turns out gray.0 -
Moonscythe✭✭✭✭✭Was kinda bummed I can't dye it any shade of green, even a grayish green. Just turns out gray.
My greens are green some even fairly bright. The blues can be blu, particularly Indoril, the reds not so much but I don't have any deep reds. I like that I can get white that's white and I sort of like the pastel tops I made. the current dye stamps use Indoril Blue and Birch White which are easy to get.
Edited by Moonscythe on July 5, 2017 9:25PMScura di Notte - Altmer Nightblade (gear)
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✭✭*dumps bucket of black paint over holiday outfit*
*outfit stays gray*
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✭✭✭✭✭Stovahkiin wrote: »*dumps bucket of black paint over holiday outfit*
*outfit stays gray*
wtf
Yeah that's basically what I'm worried about. Like, I have Legate Black, I want it to show up properly so that my glorious white chestruff can stand out in that much more contrast!! Like a luxurious fur pillow in the middle of a slick, decadent oil spill.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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✭Moonscythe wrote: »Was kinda bummed I can't dye it any shade of green, even a grayish green. Just turns out gray.
My greens are green some even fairly bright. The blues can be blu, particularly Indoril, the reds not so much but I don't have any deep reds. I like that I can get white that's white and I sort of like the pastel tops I made. the current dye stamps use Indoril Blue and Birch White which are easy to get.
Are you using greens from crown store or ones unlocked from achievements. I tried every one I have, and they were all gray.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Can we get any kind of official word on this? @ZOS_GinaBruno or otherwise?Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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