This ability is definitely overperforming. It is barely slower than other abilities like Flying Blade, hits hard, has an enormous range, and has no actual counters. "Block" is not a counter to it because blocking puts you at huge disadvantage. It stops your stam regen and it slows you down significantly. That might be fine for someone who built themselves to get hit, but it's a death sentence for everyone else. Trying to run towards the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely backpedal. Trying to run away from the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely advance.

Really the projectile should just be sped up, and then made dodgeable and reflectable. I don't want to hear crap about it being unrealistic to reflect a conjured fake bird, I literally reflect summoned weird crystals and fiery beach balls all the time and it makes about as much sense as that. Besides, mechanics trumps sense 100% of the time.

devs seem to be very twisted,
on 7th day, devs rested, and devs said let us make our meanness to annoy players and multiply the bugs, and then they decided it was good.

sorry for that funny quote. it sound like they have problems and not often communicated with players like 10-15 yrs ago when those past other game devs really cares about, and now the moderators are middleman, it give us feeling that we have been sundered and lost the way, making players get meaner and toxic saying devs dont listen, all they did was checking bug reports and we all dont dont how long it will get fix, then slowly the players start to leave.

i remembered devs for asheron's call were more prolific on forums and more social with players, and often play in game with us until WB bought them and laid them off or put on gag-order and went silent. there was lot of understandings and allow devs to have time to fix, and now some angry players start to demanding and to work faster, lot of intolerant attitudes.

bug list are becoming huge and often not a word from devs and we dont know what or which was devs' priorities., i think "Gag-order" is too much and not heard, hurting real social interaction between devs and players.

*ZOS reads this thread*

ZOS Response: "So what you're saying is.. the cliff racer ability needs a huge damage buff and also needs to be shot at rapid fire speed?"

:0

Darlgon wrote: »

At least I can reflect it...

lol edit that because people will stop reading the thread and think it's true.

Recremen wrote: »

This ability is definitely overperforming. It is barely slower than other abilities like Flying Blade, hits hard, has an enormous range, and has no actual counters. "Block" is not a counter to it because blocking puts you at huge disadvantage. It stops your stam regen and it slows you down significantly. That might be fine for someone who built themselves to get hit, but it's a death sentence for everyone else. Trying to run towards the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely backpedal. Trying to run away from the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely advance.

Really the projectile should just be sped up, and then made dodgeable and reflectable. I don't want to hear crap about it being unrealistic to reflect a conjured fake bird, I literally reflect summoned weird crystals and fiery beach balls all the time and it makes about as much sense as that. Besides, mechanics trumps sense 100% of the time.

Agree, speed up the traveltime and make it dodgeable or leave it undodgable but add a cast time like frags or flare has.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

This ability is definitely overperforming. It is barely slower than other abilities like Flying Blade, hits hard, has an enormous range, and has no actual counters. "Block" is not a counter to it because blocking puts you at huge disadvantage. It stops your stam regen and it slows you down significantly. That might be fine for someone who built themselves to get hit, but it's a death sentence for everyone else. Trying to run towards the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely backpedal. Trying to run away from the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely advance.

Really the projectile should just be sped up, and then made dodgeable and reflectable. I don't want to hear crap about it being unrealistic to reflect a conjured fake bird, I literally reflect summoned weird crystals and fiery beach balls all the time and it makes about as much sense as that. Besides, mechanics trumps sense 100% of the time.

Agree, speed up the traveltime and make it dodgeable or leave it undodgable but add a cast time like frags or flare has.

allready has a cast time. if you cant see it coming and block or cloak then your that special snowflake that only plays on sorc or stam dks.If the devs nerf this wardens will be the worst magic class,it will become the new swallow soul:everyone will just run force pulse instead.besides dodging needs a counter after the mag dk root nerf.

Countcalorie wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

This ability is definitely overperforming. It is barely slower than other abilities like Flying Blade, hits hard, has an enormous range, and has no actual counters. "Block" is not a counter to it because blocking puts you at huge disadvantage. It stops your stam regen and it slows you down significantly. That might be fine for someone who built themselves to get hit, but it's a death sentence for everyone else. Trying to run towards the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely backpedal. Trying to run away from the enemy? Sorry, get cliff racer spam while they safely advance.

Really the projectile should just be sped up, and then made dodgeable and reflectable. I don't want to hear crap about it being unrealistic to reflect a conjured fake bird, I literally reflect summoned weird crystals and fiery beach balls all the time and it makes about as much sense as that. Besides, mechanics trumps sense 100% of the time.

Agree, speed up the traveltime and make it dodgeable or leave it undodgable but add a cast time like frags or flare has.

allready has a cast time. if you cant see it coming and block or cloak then your that special snowflake that only plays on sorc or stam dks.If the devs nerf this wardens will be the worst magic class,it will become the new swallow soul:everyone will just run force pulse instead.besides dodging needs a counter after the mag dk root nerf.

Animation and cast time are diferent things, razzers DO NOT have cast time.

wrobel has to go

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Fishoscandi wrote: »

How does one dodge a high speed flying bird from the sky? I'll give you some time to think about it...

How does one dodge a f***ing lightning bold from the sky (fury and morphs), and a god damn elementally infused beam of light (force shock and morphs). I'll give you some time to think about it...

Actually I'll tell you. You press the dodge key. That's right, you can dodge a freaking beam of light in this game, yet you try to make a sarcastic point about being unable to dodge a "high speed flying bird from the sky?" I'm pretty sure light and discharging electricity outrun your bird.

Ummm... that was supposed to be a joke...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/profile/Krayzie

Hey, your quote is wrong, I never said that

cpuScientist wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Fishoscandi wrote: »

How does one dodge a high speed flying bird from the sky? I'll give you some time to think about it...

How does one dodge a f***ing lightning bold from the sky (fury and morphs), and a god damn elementally infused beam of light (force shock and morphs). I'll give you some time to think about it...

Actually I'll tell you. You press the dodge key. That's right, you can dodge a freaking beam of light in this game, yet you try to make a sarcastic point about being unable to dodge a "high speed flying bird from the sky?" I'm pretty sure light and discharging electricity outrun your bird.

Cause with those you are aiming them so human error can cause them to miss or elf error or beast error. But his is a bird... It can course correct itself and slam into you. And it's size is a but bigger too so just trying to shift your body a little will still make you take a bird to the chest....

Stop being that guy and trying to argue with logic in this game ffs.

This game has no logic.