Absolutly stuck on the last boss in VMA

peoplecallmeleo · July 2017

Ok, so I'm having the hardest time killing this ***. I am running 5 Julianos 4 Moondancer 2 Grothdarr. I am having a hard time destroying the crystals and I've been able to get them a few times, but then lose it when I go back down. When I go back down I try to wait for the boss to teleport so I can drop a destro ulti on him but he ends moving out of it anyways. Then eventually the Skulls and Daedroth just mess me the *** up. I've gotten him down to 3.4% and died, you can imagine the rage I did after that run. is there anything specific that I am missing or anything I should focus on first? If you have the time to read the rotation Ill type it down for anyone that has a few spare minutes

Power Surge
Liquid Lightning
Unstable wall
Haunting Curse
Heavy attack
Force pulse(Crystal frag when proc)
--Boss Teleports---
Interrupt boss
Destro Utli
Liquid lightning
unstable wall
haunting curse
Hardened Ward through the Daedroth flames
--Boss goes up top after this__

I pop the Power surge before going up because it's usually down by this time.
on the second floor I hit the first crystal with
Liquid Lightning
Unstable wall
Haunting Curse
Heavy attack
Force pulse(Crystal frag when proc)
If im lucky the wall will spawn headed to the first crystal then I can usually keep hitting it mean while the wall shows up and just continue to follow the wall
I do the same for the other 2 crystals.

when I go back down to the bottom floor I pick up the power sigil and hit the boss with the destro ulti and just let him have it, but I can never seem to kill him.

Idk if im doing something wrong here or whats going on.

notimetocare · July 2017

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

GrumpyDuckling · July 2017

Consider Unstable Familiar in place of Curse. Curse takes too long for my liking.

I do crystals with:
- Unstable Familiar
- Liquid Lightning
- Elemental Blockade
- Heavy weave

Also, I have Streak and Boundless Storm (major expedition on cast) to get myself situated behind and stay with the rock wall. Streak also helps get the golden ghosts before they reach the boss.

When you reach the bottom floor again, I'd wait until you get three golden ghosts (make sure you kill summoners in middle) and then use the spectral explosion when the daedroth spawns. Then drop your ult and snag power sigil on boss and daedroth. You should be pretty close to killing them so you can finish them off after the ultimate.

Edit: Added more detail.

DocFrost72 · July 2017

notimetocare wrote: »

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

This, but grab d sigil and DO NOT INTERUPT. His channel reflects (:

bebynnag · July 2017

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peoplecallmeleo · July 2017

puffytheslayer wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

This, but grab d sigil and DO NOT INTERUPT. His channel reflects (:

so much this

This is Interesting I didn't know that the Sigil did this. I hadn't used or even thot of using sigils until this fight lol

peoplecallmeleo · July 2017

puffytheslayer wrote: »

your gear is good - assuming you play in melee range
if you play at range go valkyn skoria (the extra health will help) or illambris

you dont mention Light Attack weaving, i hope when you are in there you are light attack weaving, it increases your damage, ult generation & procs your weapons enchantment.

you may or may not have received this advice before - but the best defence in vMA on a mag sorc (and other classes) is a strong offence.

but shielding through the daedroth isnt going to kill it faster - you could use infernal guardian which would mean you are dealing damage while shielding (which wouldnt be the worst option while you are still learning the mechanics) but the best way to stop the daedroth killing you is to kill it. save your ultimates for when the daedroth is out (you will learn where & when they come in)

I throw in some light attacks occasionally but not as much tbh. and yes I for some reason play in mele range, tried to play at a distance but I didnt lie the feel of it. I like to be up close and personal

peoplecallmeleo · July 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

This, but grab d sigil and DO NOT INTERUPT. His channel reflects (:

This is VERY interesting I didn't know that sigil refelected the damage to the boss. so essentially I won't have to worry about having to block through his skull attack

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

This, but grab d sigil and DO NOT INTERUPT. His channel reflects (:

This is VERY interesting I didn't know that sigil refelected the damage to the boss. so essentially I won't have to worry about having to block through his skull attack

No. See. You should block that, as you'll still get knocked down and slide across the floor. Lol.

peoplecallmeleo · July 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

This, but grab d sigil and DO NOT INTERUPT. His channel reflects (:

This is VERY interesting I didn't know that sigil refelected the damage to the boss. so essentially I won't have to worry about having to block through his skull attack

No. See. You should block that, as you'll still get knocked down and slide across the floor. Lol.

So the defence sigil only reflects his channel but not the skull? or does it also reflect that skull?

bebynnag · July 2017

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Waffennacht · July 2017

Why no roll Dodge skull?

peoplecallmeleo · July 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Why no roll Dodge skull?

Might have to, not used to roll dodging since I have very little stam

Taleof2Cities · July 2017

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Why no roll Dodge skull?

Might have to, not used to roll dodging since I have very little stam

Roll-dodging and blocking both work. I tend to use block more ... especially upstairs when it's possible to roll-dodge off the platform entirely.

But it seems like you have the fight mechanics down pretty well if the boss was at 3.4% before you died. Don't forget to get the three (3) gold ghosts ... hitting the synergy to stun the boss makes that last part of the fight easy mode.

Niuby · July 2017

puffytheslayer wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

This, but grab d sigil and DO NOT INTERUPT. His channel reflects (:

This is VERY interesting I didn't know that sigil refelected the damage to the boss. so essentially I won't have to worry about having to block through his skull attack

No. See. You should block that, as you'll still get knocked down and slide across the floor. Lol.

yes as champ says there are 2 tipes of attacks he does - the orbs & the skulls.

the defence sigil will reflect the orbs back at him (dealing a lot of damage)
the skull you need to block or even roll dodge to avoid the CC

peoplecallmeleo wrote: »

puffytheslayer wrote: »

your gear is good - assuming you play in melee range
if you play at range go valkyn skoria (the extra health will help) or illambris

you dont mention Light Attack weaving, i hope when you are in there you are light attack weaving, it increases your damage, ult generation & procs your weapons enchantment.

you may or may not have received this advice before - but the best defence in vMA on a mag sorc (and other classes) is a strong offence.

but shielding through the daedroth isnt going to kill it faster - you could use infernal guardian which would mean you are dealing damage while shielding (which wouldnt be the worst option while you are still learning the mechanics) but the best way to stop the daedroth killing you is to kill it. save your ultimates for when the daedroth is out (you will learn where & when they come in)

I throw in some light attacks occasionally but not as much tbh. and yes I for some reason play in mele range, tried to play at a distance but I didnt lie the feel of it. I like to be up close and personal

i strongly suggest you weave in light attacks - there is no animation canceling necessary, and it really is very easy to do
as i said it benefits you in many ways

regarding to AC
there is a situation going on with weaving the light attacks, not sure if this happen to others, I will got skill stuck or bar swap lag, I have to recast the skill often, sometime I have to swap the bar back to recast the skill, so dont dare to do it much, just few times maybe, and I have to rly slow down my rotation to do it, then just feeling there is no point to weave light attack when you have to slow down the rotation...so for me (btw I am getting lag spike in vMA ) as a stamsorc, also stuck with the lastboss, bring him down to 10% sometimes, I have spend sometime to circle around to kill daedroth, and I think it is rly abt the dps problem. Switching to magsorc atm, really tire with melee in vMA XD

Darnathian · July 2017

notimetocare wrote: »

When you first go back down grab the defense sigil. Interrupt boss and catch up on any adds.
Get all gold ghosts. Grab the power sigil once you get your thrid ghost. Use stunning with boss and daedroth stacked. Burn

Wrong. Dont interupt the boss after u get defense sigil. It eill reflect back to him. And u will get most of the destro ulti begore he moves

If u cant get all the stones up top, get as much damage as u can until second stone wall. Then drop down after in control. Destro in middle. Get resources up. Then go back up top begore CG respawns

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Why no roll Dodge skull?

@Waffennacht It's actually more sustain-friendly to block the skull, rather than dodge rolling the skull. This is because blocking it will consume far less stamina than dodge rolling. You also don't have to worry about rolling off the platform (if upstairs), or placing yourself in a bad position. You simply block, and keep on about your business.

Brutusmax1mus · July 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Why no roll Dodge skull?

@Waffennacht It's actually more sustain-friendly to block the skull, rather than dodge rolling the skull. This is because blocking it will consume far less stamina than dodge rolling. You also don't have to worry about rolling off the platform (if upstairs), or placing yourself in a bad position. You simply block, and keep on about your business.

Something about the skull makes me want to dodge roll

peoplecallmeleo · July 2017

These are all great tips guys, thanks. Currently going to switch from Julianos to Netch since I have a Sharpened Moodancer Lightning staff.