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  • Stopnaggin
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    StormWylf wrote: »
    This is simply click bait.

    Maybe, but prove one point i made wrong.

    1. PVE is not all heavy attacks
    2. Groupfinder works, at least for me
    3. 3 month for fixes, nah some have been years


    Nice to see that you don't try to disprove that almost everything is bugged, but for the rest you may want to look up what a prove is.
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    How is sad attempt of a post still not closed.

    People like you keep this post alive. Making absolut useless posts in here and most of the people who are posting didn't even bother to read my original post.

    It was just a random rage post after being stuck in a que and after getting in bg to get a endless loading screen, which resulted in getting a 20 min penalty to join again. So i made a rage post about everything that is pissing me off.

    No *** is plenty bugged, but not to the point of being unplayable. And sorry but rage post acomplish nothing. I'm not going to fan boy and I'm not going to lose my *** either. When you start a thread like this expet it to turn bad very quickly.

    If you would like to have an adult discussion, then perhaps start acting like an adult. I haveany problems with eso and ZOS. But I choose to have "discussions" in a clear and coherent manor. Follow the Earthtear cavern thread, and see how discussing something actually works. From experience no one takes you serious if all you do is rant.
  • Stopnaggin
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?
  • Rickter
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    Amen @Stopnaggin

    also just noticed that your name is in fact "stop nagging" touche good sir!
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  • Zer0oo
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?


    Thank you for moving the thread again to page one.Tell me when was the last time when you got not a single bug while doing a trial or playing pvp. I am not talking about solo questing or rping that works great in this game. One bug is not so bad but if there are so many in the game it becomes unplayable. If you don't belief me just think about why player though it is needed to make a whole thread about bugs in this game. Those bugs stay for ages in the game and will not getting fixed anytime soon.


    Yes i used L2R way to often in this thread, because i am amazed that so many forum users simply can NOT read. At this point i want you to go to page one and read what i wrote again, please.
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  • Waffennacht
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    You don't have to quit to send me your gold. I'll appreciate it all the same
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  • Stopnaggin
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?


    Thank you for moving the thread again to page one.Tell me when was the last time when you got not a single bug while doing a trial or playing pvp. I am not talking about solo questing or rping that works great in this game. One bug is not so bad but if there are so many in the game it becomes unplayable. If you don't belief me just think about why player though it is needed to make a whole thread about bugs in this game. Those bugs stay for ages in the game and will not getting fixed anytime soon.


    Yes i used L2R way to often in this thread, because i am amazed that so many forum users simply can NOT read. At this point i want you to go to page one and read what i wrote again, please.

    I run dungeons all the time with my guild, a few times we get lag. I will say that since morrowind it has become more noticable. But again not to the point of raging.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.
    Almost everything? Really, only 3 examples below
    Zer0oo wrote: »

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    Define broken, flawed very much so. But I can use it.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    Simply not true, I can sustain myself just fine, had to adjust to the new chages but still works.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!

    Balance is to hard to achieve. Proc sets have been a bane since release, you should know how to counter them by now.


    Edited by Stopnaggin on June 30, 2017 9:11PM
  • LiquidPony
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    StormWylf wrote: »
    This is simply click bait.

    Maybe, but prove one point i made wrong.

    OK!

    PvE is nothing close to a "heavy attack only meta" or whatever ridiculous claim you made in the OP. Do you even play the game? Even your understanding of the reason for the shift in sustain meta is wrong.

    I've run just about every bit of difficult PvE content in the game since Morrowind dropped, on multiple builds, and I can assure you that I do a lot more than heavy attack.

    /thread

    FYI, the burden of proof is on you to establish that your claims are true. Making a bunch of hyperbolic claims and then shifting the burden of proof to people who disagree with you is what we call a logical fallacy.
    Edited by LiquidPony on June 30, 2017 9:27PM
  • Countcalorie
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    can I have your stuff?
  • Zer0oo
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?


    Thank you for moving the thread again to page one.Tell me when was the last time when you got not a single bug while doing a trial or playing pvp. I am not talking about solo questing or rping that works great in this game. One bug is not so bad but if there are so many in the game it becomes unplayable. If you don't belief me just think about why player though it is needed to make a whole thread about bugs in this game. Those bugs stay for ages in the game and will not getting fixed anytime soon.


    Yes i used L2R way to often in this thread, because i am amazed that so many forum users simply can NOT read. At this point i want you to go to page one and read what i wrote again, please.

    I run dungeons all the time with my guild, a few times we get lag. I will say that since morrowind it has become more noticable. But again not to the point of raging.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.
    Almost everything? Really, only 3 examples below
    Zer0oo wrote: »

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    Define broken, flawed very much so. But I can use it.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    Simply not true, I can sustain myself just fine, had to adjust to the new chages but still works.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!

    Balance is to hard to achieve. Proc sets have been a bane since release, you should know how to counter them by now.


    I assume you don't do veteran trial? Even before you start a raid you will see the first bug: Player are invisible and have to port again. After that you will per hear ppl complain about getting the snare bug(healing/lightning staff user). Ppl can't be rezzed. The grp is stuck in combat after a wipe and can rez. Mechanics are invisible to some player......... i really can go on and the sad part most of the bugs have been in the game for ages and they will happen every raid.


    Bugs, bugs and even more bugs:https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/213734/the-bug-notes-compendium-of-current-bugs-exploits/p1 you can also look at the subforum to see how many bugs are still not fixed

    The grp tool is simply not working right for most ppl: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/349867/battlegrounds-still-broken/p1 They even said it them self that it is not working will.

    Go ahead and post a build for a mag sorc that doesn't relay on heavy attacking alot. (17khp and selfbuffed ~40k dps)

    You got me with that i really had to laugh really loud. A counter to proc sets. Great joke

    Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
    - Update 23
  • Zer0oo
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    StormWylf wrote: »
    This is simply click bait.

    Maybe, but prove one point i made wrong.

    OK!

    PvE is nothing close to a "heavy attack only meta" or whatever ridiculous claim you made in the OP. Do you even play the game? Even your understanding of the reason for the shift in sustain meta is wrong.

    I've run just about every bit of difficult PvE content in the game since Morrowind dropped, on multiple builds, and I can assure you that I do a lot more than heavy attack.

    /thread

    FYI, the burden of proof is on you to establish that your claims are true. Making a bunch of hyperbolic claims and then shifting the burden of proof to people who disagree with you is what we call a logical fallacy.

    Putting up dots and heavy attacking is for mag sorc the meta. But i would be happy if you can prove me wrong since i really don't enjoy it. And yes i play the game and like you i have done every vet trial.
    That they basically removed or extremly simplified the ressource support from the healer with the nerf to orbs is a fact.
    Edited by Zer0oo on June 30, 2017 9:50PM
    Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
    - Update 23
  • Zer0oo
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    can I have your stuff?

    careful you may get banned :D
    "we don't allow discussions where players request trades, sell items, or request gold/items. In-game transaction requests should be handled through in-game chat or through guild functions. Please take a moment to review the forum rules so you are aware of what else is not allowed on the forums."

    Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
    - Update 23
  • Stopnaggin
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?


    Thank you for moving the thread again to page one.Tell me when was the last time when you got not a single bug while doing a trial or playing pvp. I am not talking about solo questing or rping that works great in this game. One bug is not so bad but if there are so many in the game it becomes unplayable. If you don't belief me just think about why player though it is needed to make a whole thread about bugs in this game. Those bugs stay for ages in the game and will not getting fixed anytime soon.


    Yes i used L2R way to often in this thread, because i am amazed that so many forum users simply can NOT read. At this point i want you to go to page one and read what i wrote again, please.

    I run dungeons all the time with my guild, a few times we get lag. I will say that since morrowind it has become more noticable. But again not to the point of raging.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.
    Almost everything? Really, only 3 examples below
    Zer0oo wrote: »

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    Define broken, flawed very much so. But I can use it.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    Simply not true, I can sustain myself just fine, had to adjust to the new chages but still works.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!

    Balance is to hard to achieve. Proc sets have been a bane since release, you should know how to counter them by now.


    I assume you don't do veteran trial? Even before you start a raid you will see the first bug: Player are invisible and have to port again. After that you will per hear ppl complain about getting the snare bug(healing/lightning staff user). Ppl can't be rezzed. The grp is stuck in combat after a wipe and can rez. Mechanics are invisible to some player......... i really can go on and the sad part most of the bugs have been in the game for ages and they will happen every raid.


    Bugs, bugs and even more bugs:https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/213734/the-bug-notes-compendium-of-current-bugs-exploits/p1 you can also look at the subforum to see how many bugs are still not fixed

    The grp tool is simply not working right for most ppl: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/349867/battlegrounds-still-broken/p1 They even said it them self that it is not working will.

    Go ahead and post a build for a mag sorc that doesn't relay on heavy attacking alot. (17khp and selfbuffed ~40k dps)

    You got me with that i really had to laugh really loud. A counter to proc sets. Great joke

    Sorry man your a lost cause. You assume way too much, and no matter what proof anyone show you, you refuse to hear it. If you hate the game that much just quit. Find something better. Have fun out there.
  • Zer0oo
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?


    Thank you for moving the thread again to page one.Tell me when was the last time when you got not a single bug while doing a trial or playing pvp. I am not talking about solo questing or rping that works great in this game. One bug is not so bad but if there are so many in the game it becomes unplayable. If you don't belief me just think about why player though it is needed to make a whole thread about bugs in this game. Those bugs stay for ages in the game and will not getting fixed anytime soon.


    Yes i used L2R way to often in this thread, because i am amazed that so many forum users simply can NOT read. At this point i want you to go to page one and read what i wrote again, please.

    I run dungeons all the time with my guild, a few times we get lag. I will say that since morrowind it has become more noticable. But again not to the point of raging.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.
    Almost everything? Really, only 3 examples below
    Zer0oo wrote: »

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    Define broken, flawed very much so. But I can use it.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    Simply not true, I can sustain myself just fine, had to adjust to the new chages but still works.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!

    Balance is to hard to achieve. Proc sets have been a bane since release, you should know how to counter them by now.


    I assume you don't do veteran trial? Even before you start a raid you will see the first bug: Player are invisible and have to port again. After that you will per hear ppl complain about getting the snare bug(healing/lightning staff user). Ppl can't be rezzed. The grp is stuck in combat after a wipe and can rez. Mechanics are invisible to some player......... i really can go on and the sad part most of the bugs have been in the game for ages and they will happen every raid.


    Bugs, bugs and even more bugs:https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/213734/the-bug-notes-compendium-of-current-bugs-exploits/p1 you can also look at the subforum to see how many bugs are still not fixed

    The grp tool is simply not working right for most ppl: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/349867/battlegrounds-still-broken/p1 They even said it them self that it is not working will.

    Go ahead and post a build for a mag sorc that doesn't relay on heavy attacking alot. (17khp and selfbuffed ~40k dps)

    You got me with that i really had to laugh really loud. A counter to proc sets. Great joke

    Sorry man your a lost cause. You assume way too much, and no matter what proof anyone show you, you refuse to hear it. If you hate the game that much just quit. Find something better. Have fun out there.

    Nice try, but no one has shown me some kind of disprove.
    All that what i wrote aren't assumptions all that bugs are in the game and i haven't found one person in game who is defending it that much like the forum warriors here on the forums. At least i have some amusement while being in the queue.

    All ingame friends and guildmates, who are playing the game for a longer time, are sick and tired of the mess ZOS did make out of the game.
    Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
    - Update 23
  • RGFors
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!


    And yes this is another rage thread. If anyone from ZOS reads that pls try your best to make this game great again.

    It's like we are playing completely different games. Do you REALLY experience everything you're whining about? Or is this just another typical "I'm outrageous and people will think I'm cool" thread?
  • Zer0oo
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    RGFors wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!


    And yes this is another rage thread. If anyone from ZOS reads that pls try your best to make this game great again.

    It's like we are playing completely different games. Do you REALLY experience everything you're whining about? Or is this just another typical "I'm outrageous and people will think I'm cool" thread?

    Yes i do. The only thing that works fine in this game right now is solo questing/RPing and maybe some dungeons.
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    If anyone is upset about the game I'll be sure you take your gold and mats before you leave tho
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    Kinda agree with the OP. Just a really small example. You can't zoom in on the map on console like you used to be able to. Really annoying. That was never in any of the "fixes or improvements" anywhere in any of the DLC's, expansions, chapters etc.
    yet, it doesn't work anymore. Where's the fix for that ? Exactly, nowhere to be found anywhere.
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    Zuboko wrote: »
    I don't see the evidence of them breaking anything. I was able to solo my first world boss after they made the changes. So if I can do that then it seems the game is definitely not broken as a whole.

    Hmmm apparently you see that as a good thing.

    I see it as a bad thing.

    I really liked it when you had to call for help with world bosses. When you had to avoid those "Big Bosses" in IC (even including the flag-bearing guys) cause you ran/avoided or died and if enough folks came together to kill them it was a big deal.

    I miss that.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?


    Thank you for moving the thread again to page one.Tell me when was the last time when you got not a single bug while doing a trial or playing pvp. I am not talking about solo questing or rping that works great in this game. One bug is not so bad but if there are so many in the game it becomes unplayable. If you don't belief me just think about why player though it is needed to make a whole thread about bugs in this game. Those bugs stay for ages in the game and will not getting fixed anytime soon.


    Yes i used L2R way to often in this thread, because i am amazed that so many forum users simply can NOT read. At this point i want you to go to page one and read what i wrote again, please.

    I run dungeons all the time with my guild, a few times we get lag. I will say that since morrowind it has become more noticable. But again not to the point of raging.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.
    Almost everything? Really, only 3 examples below
    Zer0oo wrote: »

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    Define broken, flawed very much so. But I can use it.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    Simply not true, I can sustain myself just fine, had to adjust to the new chages but still works.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!

    Balance is to hard to achieve. Proc sets have been a bane since release, you should know how to counter them by now.


    I assume you don't do veteran trial? Even before you start a raid you will see the first bug: Player are invisible and have to port again. After that you will per hear ppl complain about getting the snare bug(healing/lightning staff user). Ppl can't be rezzed. The grp is stuck in combat after a wipe and can rez. Mechanics are invisible to some player......... i really can go on and the sad part most of the bugs have been in the game for ages and they will happen every raid.


    Bugs, bugs and even more bugs:https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/213734/the-bug-notes-compendium-of-current-bugs-exploits/p1 you can also look at the subforum to see how many bugs are still not fixed

    The grp tool is simply not working right for most ppl: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/349867/battlegrounds-still-broken/p1 They even said it them self that it is not working will.

    Go ahead and post a build for a mag sorc that doesn't relay on heavy attacking alot. (17khp and selfbuffed ~40k dps)

    You got me with that i really had to laugh really loud. A counter to proc sets. Great joke

    Sorry man your a lost cause. You assume way too much, and no matter what proof anyone show you, you refuse to hear it. If you hate the game that much just quit. Find something better. Have fun out there.

    Nice try, but no one has shown me some kind of disprove.
    All that what i wrote aren't assumptions all that bugs are in the game and i haven't found one person in game who is defending it that much like the forum warriors here on the forums. At least i have some amusement while being in the queue.

    All ingame friends and guildmates, who are playing the game for a longer time, are sick and tired of the mess ZOS did make out of the game.

    Ok, one last time, why do you resort assuming someone hasn't run certain content when they dissagree? Hard to stay on topic when you are all over the place.

    The group finder works much better on xbox than it has in the last year or so. I haven't had any problems using it effectively. I repeat, no problems lately.

    I haven't seen the need to resort to a heavy attack playground. I made a few cp changes and a couple if glyph changes and I haven't noticed some god awful burn the house down problems. Sorry I just havent. So I may lose a small amount of dps, it wasn't enough for me to have some major rework of my toons.

    And yeah you act like proc sets can't be defeated, again, hasn't made me change my play style. Proc sets have been around long enough for most people to have learned how to counter them. So I don't understand why that would make you laugh.

    Yes I have done vet trials, other than the new HoF, most of the problems I had seem to be fixed. Do things glitch every now and again, yeah sure does. Is that something unique to eso, no.

    But I'm sure there no way for you to believe any counter argumen. But the above is what I have noticed.
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    Not me I think I did pretty good ever since I came back last December, came back with only about 800k and 1.0 motifs since I quit 3 months after launch.

    Now I have nearly 4m in gold on me, spent 6m or so on Hundings + Daggerfall overlook, have every single motif in game besides the 2 crown store exclusives, 850 furniture recipes, and more.
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    I am ashamed to admit I really do enjoy this game and posting about it in a rage thread :blush:
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    @Zer0oo what platform do you play on?
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    itzTJ wrote: »
    @Zer0oo what platform do you play on?

    PC EU
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    Smepic wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
    @Rickter

    The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

    While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

    Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

    Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.

    Ok you use the L2R thing way to much. When someone contradicts some thing and you haven't even completed x content. Sorry clown move. The first useless comment was given at the top of the thread. Everything sucks etc etc. Then from everything to 2 issues. Again this goes back to having a coherent discussion over raging. You want real responses and not smart ass comments then explain your issues. But I hate blah blah and blah and they did blah blah blah. Seriously?


    Thank you for moving the thread again to page one.Tell me when was the last time when you got not a single bug while doing a trial or playing pvp. I am not talking about solo questing or rping that works great in this game. One bug is not so bad but if there are so many in the game it becomes unplayable. If you don't belief me just think about why player though it is needed to make a whole thread about bugs in this game. Those bugs stay for ages in the game and will not getting fixed anytime soon.


    Yes i used L2R way to often in this thread, because i am amazed that so many forum users simply can NOT read. At this point i want you to go to page one and read what i wrote again, please.

    I run dungeons all the time with my guild, a few times we get lag. I will say that since morrowind it has become more noticable. But again not to the point of raging.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.
    Almost everything? Really, only 3 examples below
    Zer0oo wrote: »

    The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

    Define broken, flawed very much so. But I can use it.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

    Simply not true, I can sustain myself just fine, had to adjust to the new chages but still works.
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!

    Balance is to hard to achieve. Proc sets have been a bane since release, you should know how to counter them by now.


    I assume you don't do veteran trial? Even before you start a raid you will see the first bug: Player are invisible and have to port again. After that you will per hear ppl complain about getting the snare bug(healing/lightning staff user). Ppl can't be rezzed. The grp is stuck in combat after a wipe and can rez. Mechanics are invisible to some player......... i really can go on and the sad part most of the bugs have been in the game for ages and they will happen every raid.


    Bugs, bugs and even more bugs:https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/213734/the-bug-notes-compendium-of-current-bugs-exploits/p1 you can also look at the subforum to see how many bugs are still not fixed

    The grp tool is simply not working right for most ppl: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/349867/battlegrounds-still-broken/p1 They even said it them self that it is not working will.

    Go ahead and post a build for a mag sorc that doesn't relay on heavy attacking alot. (17khp and selfbuffed ~40k dps)

    You got me with that i really had to laugh really loud. A counter to proc sets. Great joke

    Sorry man your a lost cause. You assume way too much, and no matter what proof anyone show you, you refuse to hear it. If you hate the game that much just quit. Find something better. Have fun out there.

    Nice try, but no one has shown me some kind of disprove.
    All that what i wrote aren't assumptions all that bugs are in the game and i haven't found one person in game who is defending it that much like the forum warriors here on the forums. At least i have some amusement while being in the queue.

    All ingame friends and guildmates, who are playing the game for a longer time, are sick and tired of the mess ZOS did make out of the game.

    Ok, one last time, why do you resort assuming someone hasn't run certain content when they dissagree? Hard to stay on topic when you are all over the place.

    The group finder works much better on xbox than it has in the last year or so. I haven't had any problems using it effectively. I repeat, no problems lately.

    I haven't seen the need to resort to a heavy attack playground. I made a few cp changes and a couple if glyph changes and I haven't noticed some god awful burn the house down problems. Sorry I just havent. So I may lose a small amount of dps, it wasn't enough for me to have some major rework of my toons.

    And yeah you act like proc sets can't be defeated, again, hasn't made me change my play style. Proc sets have been around long enough for most people to have learned how to counter them. So I don't understand why that would make you laugh.

    Yes I have done vet trials, other than the new HoF, most of the problems I had seem to be fixed. Do things glitch every now and again, yeah sure does. Is that something unique to eso, no.

    But I'm sure there no way for you to believe any counter argumen. But the above is what I have noticed.

    Never said you can't have an opinion if you haven't done some content. But it would help to know since a standpoint can really differ if someone does just solo pve or does active trials now. Solo pve works really nice in this game.

    Great for you if the group finder works for you, but it really does not work for most other people. I am at this point too lazy to link the thread, but just go to page one of general discussion.

    There aren't too many things you can do with cp to get better sustain in this patch(reg+heavy attack). As for the idea to use reg or cost reduction glyphs, it doesn't give you enough sustain and you lose really a lot of damage if you go that way. A heavy attack build doesn't suffer under sustain problems and has great dps even more as a light attack build if you have to make some much sacrifices to run not out of magica. Keep in mind i was thinking about a sorc. For a mag Nb or mag Dk that is not true since they have so cheap spammable skills(funnel is really cheap and whip is most of the time free in a good grp) and have good ways to get res back. Also it is quite sad that they basically killed the important role of healers to provide the grp with resources maybe it was alittle to easy to do it but in the current form it is just crap.

    I still don't know a single counter to proc sets, but if you really know one please let me know. You should also make a new forum thread about it since most ppl don't know how to counter them. Just look at the first page of the general discussion so many ppl complaining about proc sets.

    Ok at that point i have to ask are you sure you did some trials? At least on PC there is no way to get not a single bug while doing a trial. The first bug you will see is that someone is invisible to the rest of the grp and has to port again. In all the trial runs since T1(i think it was that patch that introduced it) i haven't seen a single run without this bug and i am not even sure this bug is know by zos or they are working on a fix. Also really alot of ablities are just bugged, especial the warden skills.....
    And yes these are not game breaking but if you have 100000 bug how can you enjoy this game. (Sorry but this comes always that bug is not game breaking so it is not important blablabla.)
    Edited by Zer0oo on July 3, 2017 10:46AM
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    Damn, and there i thought this post was addressing the yellows on EU vivec. Oh well. :smirk:
    Edited by Sharee on July 3, 2017 10:49AM
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    Sharee wrote: »
    Damn, and there i thought this post was addressing the yellows on EU vivec. Oh well. :smirk:

    That is also a shame, but the other campaign isn't better just other colors. If you really want to complain about it just write to the allmight legend BIG B..(You know who i mean)
    Also wrong forum
    Edited by Zer0oo on July 3, 2017 11:00AM
    Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Damn, and there i thought this post was addressing the yellows on EU vivec. Oh well. :smirk:

    That is also a shame, but the other campaign isn't better just other colors. If you really want to complain about it just write to the allmight legend BIG B..(You know who i mean)
    Also wrong forum

    To be honest, its ZOS to blame here - players will always take the path of least resistance, it's just human nature. It is up to ZOS to prevent that from happening, and so far they did a very poor job(read: none).
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    I think that as gamers, many ZOS devs very likely feel regret about the direction the game has taken.

    But as professionals paid to do a job, they likely have no regrets. I think ESO is probably very profitable. I think the rough launch very likely represented an existential threat that they feel very good about overcoming.

    It's possible to have the best of both worlds, of course, but I think the amount of money invested in developing ESO has precluded any risk taking. But who knows what the future holds.
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    zyk wrote: »
    I think that as gamers, many ZOS devs very likely feel regret about the direction the game has taken.

    But as professionals paid to do a job, they likely have no regrets. I think ESO is probably very profitable. I think the rough launch very likely represented an existential threat that they feel very good about overcoming.

    It's possible to have the best of both worlds, of course, but I think the amount of money invested in developing ESO has precluded any risk taking. But who knows what the future holds.

    Personal i think they try to do everything to get the most money out of the game, but extremely neglecting their long-term player-base. This maybe good for short-term profit but in the long run im could be really bad for the game.
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    - Update 23
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