I would love that!

Calysis wrote: »

I feel you. I recently got flawless as well without use of sigils and was congratulated with a 2-handed powered maul.

I do like the idea you lined out though. I'd love for my runs without sigil use to mean more than just a higher score on the leaderboards. I'd like them to take sigil use and final scoring into effect when giving out the tokens as well. Not sure how that'd work but it's an idea.

Yuuuuck xD

And I hadn't even considered how score would work. Maybe each 100k, rounded down, is another token? That further rewards skillful play as, like you said, your efforts to push yourself should feel rewarded. Another great idea!

And as I sat at work thinking, I thought about this more. This could apply to monster helms, and shoulders, and DSA too...

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Mine involves breaking down maelstrom weapons. You need 100 tokens to get an exact weapon. A normal clear gives you one token. A vet clear gives you ten tokens. Flawless clear is fifteen tokens. If you deconstruct a maelstrom weapon, you get 10 tokens (five for axe and dagger, cause you get two.) This means that you either get what you want, or the fact that you didn't accelerates your grind. And of course, an actual end in sight.

What's your ideal system?

Here is my idea for Maelstrom Glyph:
-Add Maelstrom Glyph (/Maelstrom Glyph fragment) to the game which can be used to enchant your weapon of choise and has weapon type specific enchantment effect.
-Deconstructing Maelstrom weapon have a change to yield Maelstrom Glyph fragments.
-Deconstructing Maelstrom weapon yield chances: 95% chance to yield at least one Maelstrom Glyph fragment. 25% chance to yield 2 Maelstrom Glyph fragments. 15% chance to yield 3 Maelstrom Glyph fragments.

100 Maelstrom Glyph fragments can be combined to Maelstrom Glyph in inventory with the help of some restorative stuff which can be bought from Maelstrom merchant (in same manner as imperial motif fragments can be combined to imperial motif pieces using Merethic Restorative Resin).

Possible additional perk would be to allow enchanting set weapons with Maelstrom glyphs. So in future when new sets come there would still be incentives to run Maelstrom arena.

Probabilities for maelstrom glyph yields ofc. debatable. With these values you would get your Maelstrom Glyph of choise guaranteed with something like in 60-90 maelstrom runs.

I like all the ideas presented here. Not just because anything is better than the trash system we have now, but because it would make completing the arena feel rewarding. Once you are through a couple of times it loses its sense of accomplishment. Once you go flawless there is nothing left but reward. When you are a mag character and you get 90% bow, 2H, 1H/S & DW drops after 40 runs then it is just a kick in the crotch

A token system is needed yes, but it should be difficult nonetheless.
Normal maelstrom giving out tokens is a not a good idea, then anyone can get maelstrom weapons, no thank you, work for it in veteran like everyone else.

You should have the option to exchange a small amount of tokens to say try your luck in a random weapon with a random trait or with a ton of tokens for an exact weapon with specific trait.

Also, still salty that nirnhoned is in the loot table for vma weps

Is there any drawback to a token system? I can't think of a single one. Yet ZOS seems to hate the idea.

You can make the prices of items ridiculously high to encourage people to replay the same *** over and over again, but you at least remove the frustration of RNG.

It really is needed and not just for vMA either. The amount of runs I've done on CoA1/2 to try and get the 1 BSW piece I'm missing is ridiculous. Literally just 1 piece needed and now I'm lucky if I get 1 BSW drop per run, let alone the piece needed with the right trait.

The problem you have is ZoS makes too much money and keeps players coming back for the wrong reasons and while ever that's happening you'll never see any truly beneficial changes.