All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
Ceridwynne wrote: »I prefer the ideals of the Covenant followed by the Pact. Bretons are one of my favorite races and Emeric felt more like a real person. I love Bosmer and Khajiit, but Ayrenn really rubbed me the wrong way. While she is very friendly, but I felt like she still came off as an elven supremacist. I would probably side with AD if the Silvenar was the leader.
Drachenfier wrote: »I settled on EP because AD is already a huge zerg
All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
You remember? That's 2 eras from now and they are not made up of just high elves in this era. In fact if you played through ad storyline ad is against the racist heritance. It's ok for the dunmer to not enslave argonians but you are fine with them with khajiit bretons and other non pact races?
MLGProPlayer wrote: »Drachenfier wrote: »I settled on EP because AD is already a huge zerg
That's fresh, coming from the faction that harbours every casual Skyrim fan under the sun.
All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
You remember? That's 2 eras from now and they are not made up of just high elves in this era. In fact if you played through ad storyline ad is against the racist heritance. It's ok for the dunmer to not enslave argonians but you are fine with them with khajiit bretons and other non pact races?
The pact isnt enslaving anyone(though they do have remaining racism from when they did). I remember quite clearly doing a quest in the AD storyline for the queen to bring the unwilling Bosmer under her thumb. Beyond the elves within the dominion the Altmer dont even try to hide their ambition to subjugate the other races of Tamriel. There are no quests in the EP storyline where you are trying to force people into the pact against their will.
As for remembering...why not? There is nothing that says my character cant remember something that happens in the future.
Disclaimer: It has been 2+ years since I played the main storylines at this point, but from what I can remember of them.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »Ceridwynne wrote: »I prefer the ideals of the Covenant followed by the Pact. Bretons are one of my favorite races and Emeric felt more like a real person. I love Bosmer and Khajiit, but Ayrenn really rubbed me the wrong way. While she is very friendly, but I felt like she still came off as an elven supremacist. I would probably side with AD if the Silvenar was the leader.
She uses a magical device that shows her true colours, and it reveals she isn't a supremacist. The device cannot lie. She has the purest heart of anyone in Tamriel.
hmsdragonfly wrote: »All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
The Thalmor in ESO aren't bad guys.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
Actually AD is the only solid alliance where all races work together side by side without fear of backstabbing. Their leaders work together on regular basis to deal with all the problems of all races within the alliance. When the Bosmers have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Mane in Valenwood. When the Khajiits have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Silvenar in Reaper's March, right in the front line of a Daedric invasion. The High Elves even saved the Khajiits from Knahaten Flu.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eagle_and_the_Cat
So, no, Altmers are not subjecting other races in ESO.
You remember when the Bretons have problems? The Redguard almost even went to war against the Bretons, because of reasons. And when the Orcs have problems? They refuse to let any Breton and Redguard army in and rather deal with them themselves because of the fear of backstabbing.
Leaders of the Pact don't even talk to each other. It doesn't seem like the Tribunal gives any flying **** about Jorunn, they send diplomatic missionaries to deal with Pact's business. House Dres and House Telvanni don't even care to join the Pact.
Ceridwynne wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Ceridwynne wrote: »I prefer the ideals of the Covenant followed by the Pact. Bretons are one of my favorite races and Emeric felt more like a real person. I love Bosmer and Khajiit, but Ayrenn really rubbed me the wrong way. While she is very friendly, but I felt like she still came off as an elven supremacist. I would probably side with AD if the Silvenar was the leader.
She uses a magical device that shows her true colours, and it reveals she isn't a supremacist. The device cannot lie. She has the purest heart of anyone in Tamriel.
It proves that she is a good person, it doesn't mean I have to love or like her. She comes off as too perfect and boring to me. And only 2 people used it, she can't claim to have the purest heart in all of Tamriel unless everyone in Tamriel passes through it and turns into monsters. But, I will admit that I am probably biased because I played through that quest on my Breton who had just saved the world from Molag Bal and Ayrenn keeps saying how only an elf is good enough to lead. Hmmm... maybe I just have something against Altmers.
All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
You remember? That's 2 eras from now and they are not made up of just high elves in this era. In fact if you played through ad storyline ad is against the racist heritance. It's ok for the dunmer to not enslave argonians but you are fine with them with khajiit bretons and other non pact races?
The pact isnt enslaving anyone(though they do have remaining racism from when they did).
hmsdragonfly wrote: »All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
The Thalmor in ESO aren't bad guys.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
Actually AD is the only solid alliance where all races work together side by side without fear of backstabbing. Their leaders work together on regular basis to deal with all the problems of all races within the alliance. When the Bosmers have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Mane in Valenwood. When the Khajiits have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Silvenar in Reaper's March, right in the front line of a Daedric invasion. The High Elves even saved the Khajiits from Knahaten Flu.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eagle_and_the_Cat
So, no, Altmers are not subjecting other races in ESO.
You remember when the Bretons have problems? The Redguard almost even went to war against the Bretons, because of reasons. And when the Orcs have problems? They refuse to let any Breton and Redguard army in and rather deal with them themselves because of the fear of backstabbing.
Leaders of the Pact don't even talk to each other. It doesn't seem like the Tribunal gives any flying **** about Jorunn, they send diplomatic missionaries to deal with Pact's business. House Dres and House Telvanni don't even care to join the Pact.
MLGProPlayer wrote: »Ceridwynne wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Ceridwynne wrote: »I prefer the ideals of the Covenant followed by the Pact. Bretons are one of my favorite races and Emeric felt more like a real person. I love Bosmer and Khajiit, but Ayrenn really rubbed me the wrong way. While she is very friendly, but I felt like she still came off as an elven supremacist. I would probably side with AD if the Silvenar was the leader.
She uses a magical device that shows her true colours, and it reveals she isn't a supremacist. The device cannot lie. She has the purest heart of anyone in Tamriel.
It proves that she is a good person, it doesn't mean I have to love or like her. She comes off as too perfect and boring to me. And only 2 people used it, she can't claim to have the purest heart in all of Tamriel unless everyone in Tamriel passes through it and turns into monsters. But, I will admit that I am probably biased because I played through that quest on my Breton who had just saved the world from Molag Bal and Ayrenn keeps saying how only an elf is good enough to lead. Hmmm... maybe I just have something against Altmers.
She's right. Altmer are the most magically adept and culturally sophisticated race in all of Tamriel.
hmsdragonfly wrote: »All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
The Thalmor in ESO aren't bad guys.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
Actually AD is the only solid alliance where all races work together side by side without fear of backstabbing. Their leaders work together on regular basis to deal with all the problems of all races within the alliance. When the Bosmers have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Mane in Valenwood. When the Khajiits have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Silvenar in Reaper's March, right in the front line of a Daedric invasion. The High Elves even saved the Khajiits from Knahaten Flu.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eagle_and_the_Cat
So, no, Altmers are not subjecting other races in ESO.
You remember when the Bretons have problems? The Redguard almost even went to war against the Bretons, because of reasons. And when the Orcs have problems? They refuse to let any Breton and Redguard army in and rather deal with them themselves because of the fear of backstabbing.
Leaders of the Pact don't even talk to each other. It doesn't seem like the Tribunal gives any flying **** about Jorunn, they send diplomatic missionaries to deal with Pact's business. House Dres and House Telvanni don't even care to join the Pact.
Thalmor in ESO are not the bad guys? Skooma, not even once.
And just read what 9th era spaceship wrote on her "LetsGoToWarUNoobs" pamphlet. She is talking about races of other alliances as mentally challenged folk, comparing them to kids. And if she sees Dunmer that way, do you think she has better opinion of a group of tribal cannibals that live inside trees? Or if she sees a race way older than altmers (yes, I am speaking of Saxhleel) as something beneath her, do you think she sees Khajiit folk as her equals? Rubbish.
Pact has its issues and was formed to stop Akaviri invasion. All who played EP quests see that there is a new attack on lands and nations of the Pact, driven by filthy breton merchant and cannibals who came to Shadowfen to eat Saxhleel children, while their so called queen speaks of just and noble cause. To Oblivion with both AD and DC!
OpponentSmile66 wrote: »hmsdragonfly wrote: »All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
The Thalmor in ESO aren't bad guys.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
Actually AD is the only solid alliance where all races work together side by side without fear of backstabbing. Their leaders work together on regular basis to deal with all the problems of all races within the alliance. When the Bosmers have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Mane in Valenwood. When the Khajiits have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Silvenar in Reaper's March, right in the front line of a Daedric invasion. The High Elves even saved the Khajiits from Knahaten Flu.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eagle_and_the_Cat
So, no, Altmers are not subjecting other races in ESO.
You remember when the Bretons have problems? The Redguard almost even went to war against the Bretons, because of reasons. And when the Orcs have problems? They refuse to let any Breton and Redguard army in and rather deal with them themselves because of the fear of backstabbing.
Leaders of the Pact don't even talk to each other. It doesn't seem like the Tribunal gives any flying **** about Jorunn, they send diplomatic missionaries to deal with Pact's business. House Dres and House Telvanni don't even care to join the Pact.
And when the Veiled Heritance march in Auridon with their Daedric allies the Altmer... don't get the Mane or the Silvenar.
Remember the Khajiits wanting an embassy in Elden Root? Completed that quest over a year ago and there's still no sign of an embassy.
For a strong and stable alliance you sure need to hold their Queen's hand a lot. I get you have to do it to a certain degree with the other two leaders but at least (for the most part anyway) they can stand on their own two feet. It's a wonder why Razum-dar doesn't become jealous of you, especially considering he's her pet.
hmsdragonfly wrote: »OpponentSmile66 wrote: »hmsdragonfly wrote: »All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
The Thalmor in ESO aren't bad guys.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
Actually AD is the only solid alliance where all races work together side by side without fear of backstabbing. Their leaders work together on regular basis to deal with all the problems of all races within the alliance. When the Bosmers have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Mane in Valenwood. When the Khajiits have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Silvenar in Reaper's March, right in the front line of a Daedric invasion. The High Elves even saved the Khajiits from Knahaten Flu.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eagle_and_the_Cat
So, no, Altmers are not subjecting other races in ESO.
You remember when the Bretons have problems? The Redguard almost even went to war against the Bretons, because of reasons. And when the Orcs have problems? They refuse to let any Breton and Redguard army in and rather deal with them themselves because of the fear of backstabbing.
Leaders of the Pact don't even talk to each other. It doesn't seem like the Tribunal gives any flying **** about Jorunn, they send diplomatic missionaries to deal with Pact's business. House Dres and House Telvanni don't even care to join the Pact.
And when the Veiled Heritance march in Auridon with their Daedric allies the Altmer... don't get the Mane or the Silvenar.
Remember the Khajiits wanting an embassy in Elden Root? Completed that quest over a year ago and there's still no sign of an embassy.
For a strong and stable alliance you sure need to hold their Queen's hand a lot. I get you have to do it to a certain degree with the other two leaders but at least (for the most part anyway) they can stand on their own two feet. It's a wonder why Razum-dar doesn't become jealous of you, especially considering he's her pet.
Don't get the Silvenar in Auridon because the Silvenar was dead at that time. We don't get a new Silvenar until much later in the storyline.
The Khajiit embassy? It's not possible to build a building in this game, you see, time doesn't flow, they start building it after the quest, but they will never finish it, just like how they start rebuilding destroyed towns and they will never finish rebuilding them, destroyed towns remain destroyed forever.
Holding the Queen's hand a lot? By helping her to destroy the Veiled Heritance and take back the Staff of Magnus? I don't think it's anywhere close to hand-holding. Have you done the DC questline? You basically help Emeric with his sleeping schedule.
hmsdragonfly wrote: »hmsdragonfly wrote: »All 9 characters EP here. AD seems to be the most evil race(I remember the Thalmor)....constantly subjecting any elves who are not Altmer. Its true the Dunmer enslaved the Argonians, but that time has since passed...not true at all on the AD side. DC story line just seemed rather bland and boring, no strong feelings either way.
As far as the alliance war goes....
AD is just a giant zerg and always has been as far back as I can remember.
DC I have more respect for...but they often take advantage when AD is pressing one flank to press the other, even though doing so invariably helps AD much more than it helps DC, resulting in AD getting emp.
The Thalmor in ESO aren't bad guys.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_(Online)
Actually AD is the only solid alliance where all races work together side by side without fear of backstabbing. Their leaders work together on regular basis to deal with all the problems of all races within the alliance. When the Bosmers have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Mane in Valenwood. When the Khajiits have problems, you see Queen Aryenn and the Silvenar in Reaper's March, right in the front line of a Daedric invasion. The High Elves even saved the Khajiits from Knahaten Flu.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eagle_and_the_Cat
So, no, Altmers are not subjecting other races in ESO.
You remember when the Bretons have problems? The Redguard almost even went to war against the Bretons, because of reasons. And when the Orcs have problems? They refuse to let any Breton and Redguard army in and rather deal with them themselves because of the fear of backstabbing.
Leaders of the Pact don't even talk to each other. It doesn't seem like the Tribunal gives any flying **** about Jorunn, they send diplomatic missionaries to deal with Pact's business. House Dres and House Telvanni don't even care to join the Pact.
Thalmor in ESO are not the bad guys? Skooma, not even once.
And just read what 9th era spaceship wrote on her "LetsGoToWarUNoobs" pamphlet. She is talking about races of other alliances as mentally challenged folk, comparing them to kids. And if she sees Dunmer that way, do you think she has better opinion of a group of tribal cannibals that live inside trees? Or if she sees a race way older than altmers (yes, I am speaking of Saxhleel) as something beneath her, do you think she sees Khajiit folk as her equals? Rubbish.
Pact has its issues and was formed to stop Akaviri invasion. All who played EP quests see that there is a new attack on lands and nations of the Pact, driven by filthy breton merchant and cannibals who came to Shadowfen to eat Saxhleel children, while their so called queen speaks of just and noble cause. To Oblivion with both AD and DC!
Thalmor in ESO is made up of Altmer, Khajiit and Bosmer, not just Altmer, so no, they are not bad guys.
She does see Bosmer and Khajiit as equals, as you can see, the Orrery has confirmed that the Queen has a pure heart, so if she says that she sees Bosmer and Khajiit as equals, in her heart she actually sees Bosmer and Khajiit as equals.
The incident in Shadowfen was led by a rogue group, it was supposed to be a simple scouting invasion, the Queen surely didn't know about the Alchemist's plan, because as you see, she has a pure heart, she wouldn't let him exterminating a race. Don't forget that she took in a lot of Argonian refugees, because the Pact actually treats Argonians like ****, so she actually cares about the well-being of other races.
All hail the Queen and the Dominion!