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  • SnubbS
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    From a Q.A. standpoint—I'd be embarrassed to be responsible for the mass number of bugs & glitches that plague this game.

    When you get passed the fact that the game is laggy, buggy etc—it's not that bad of a game for what it is. I generally like to complain about everything—but as of right now, there really isn't too much I would want changed. For me, as of right now this game is in sort of the "I hate this game" stage as opposed to "I hate this 'X' thing in the game"—meaning that at least in my opinion, the game is about as good as it's going to get.
    Edited by SnubbS on June 27, 2017 8:37PM
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  • Zer0oo
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Group finder had a time when it was working perfectly I think around One Tamriel.

    No. You can still weave normal fast rotation with just using single heavy attack here and there when You really need it after few changes and improvements to Your setup and still get 40k+ single target DPS easily. Heavy attacks doesnt slow the rotation much after improvements to their speed. It's L2P issue imo.

    Proc sets are issue but not new one. It's really hard to change them to be ballanced if You have some ideas please share it with devs. Argument about big changes once every 3 months is pointless. Imagine that developers would change some things with sets and skill each 2 weeks for example and You would have to change Your setup , farm it and make it gold every 2 weeks. That changes ofc could have some impact to game that devs couldnt test in 2 weeks so people would have only few days to run some setups after testing and farming them. That would be really broken. Like it or not it's only reasonable way to tweak things atm.

    I really can't remember when it did work

    Pls share your build with me if you really have a build for a mag sorc that can do 40+k self-buffed on the big dummy without using heavy attacks

    They tried it to balance things every 3-6 month and they failed. Even with the possibility to grind gear again it would a better way than it is now.


    Edited by Zer0oo on June 27, 2017 8:38PM
    Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
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  • Demycilian
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    Poor Wroble, being probably just underfunded.
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    I still play happily whenever I can
  • apostate9
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Rickter wrote: »
    Zer0oo wrote: »
    L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
    (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

    so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

    LOL.

    lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.

    Got some proof on that "majority"? same could be said about those who don't enjoy the game without proof.

    Yes. Count the number of salty crybabies who have ever posted repetitious rants, moans and diatribes on these forums. Next, see if that number approaches 10,000,000. If not, then the majority would appear to be enjoying ESO. Or at the very least, hating it *quietly* which is damn decent of them, if you ask me.


    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/352176/over-10-million-players

    You're welcome.
    Edited by apostate9 on June 27, 2017 9:07PM
  • Kuramas9tails
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    I can only talk from a mageblade DPS position but I haven't had a lot of resource management issues since I switched up my build a little bit. I thought VMA would take me longer to complete after the update but I still completed it in my usual time. You have to evolve with the updates.
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    • Stopnaggin
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      DannyLV702 wrote: »
      They're never gonna fix jack because zos always has an army of people backing them up in every rage thread :p

      The army of people backing them back them because most rage threads are rediculas. If you want to have a discussion then you should not start off the way the op did.

      Does the game have issues? Sure does, are they game breaking, sure aren't.
    • Roovin
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      Yep. They are super ashamed that this is one of the most healthy MMO's out there
    • Bombashaman
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      I still thoroughly enjoy the game.

      +1
    • SirAndy
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      Even though your feelings as a consumer paying for a game are not wrong , this is a common problem with MMOs as they age . Writing code upon code leads to more of these "everything's broke" situations after patches . I think @SirAndy could explain it better .
      I'm not going to open that can of worms again ...

      Lets just say there were plenty of warning signs during the closed beta and things have gotten progressively worse ever since!
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    • QuebraRegra
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      Zer0oo wrote: »
      Almost everything is broken in this game and we have to wait at least 3 month till the next big patch comes for fixes, which most likely breaks more things than it will fix.

      The group finder didn't really work since they released it and still no ETA on a fix.

      PvE became a heavy attack only meta because they killed the resources support from healers(orbs, spears)

      PvP is procs and other cheese. Tbh it is not easy to really balance skills and sets in pvp. But how can you balance it if you only try to do it every 3-6 month!


      And yes this is another rage thread. If anyone from ZOS reads that pls try your best to make this game great again.

      Yeah... about that group finder on XBOX. ^ this sentient aint wrong.
    • Balsagna
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      Yeah man they are ashamed all the way to the bank while people spend hundreds of dollars on cosmetic stuff while the game costs a fraction of that cost to own in its entirety.

      It's all about the money, and that's all they care about. If they start losing money then they will start to care. Welcome to the real world.
    • Mojmir
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      apostate9 wrote: »
      Mojmir wrote: »
      Rickter wrote: »
      Zer0oo wrote: »
      L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
      (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

      so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

      LOL.

      lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.

      Got some proof on that "majority"? same could be said about those who don't enjoy the game without proof.

      Yes. Count the number of salty crybabies who have ever posted repetitious rants, moans and diatribes on these forums. Next, see if that number approaches 10,000,000. If not, then the majority would appear to be enjoying ESO. Or at the very least, hating it *quietly* which is damn decent of them, if you ask me.


      https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/352176/over-10-million-players

      You're welcome.

      Lol 10mil accts,not players. That you matt fiorir/rich lambert?
    • Juhasow
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      Zer0oo wrote: »
      Juhasow wrote: »
      Group finder had a time when it was working perfectly I think around One Tamriel.

      No. You can still weave normal fast rotation with just using single heavy attack here and there when You really need it after few changes and improvements to Your setup and still get 40k+ single target DPS easily. Heavy attacks doesnt slow the rotation much after improvements to their speed. It's L2P issue imo.

      Proc sets are issue but not new one. It's really hard to change them to be ballanced if You have some ideas please share it with devs. Argument about big changes once every 3 months is pointless. Imagine that developers would change some things with sets and skill each 2 weeks for example and You would have to change Your setup , farm it and make it gold every 2 weeks. That changes ofc could have some impact to game that devs couldnt test in 2 weeks so people would have only few days to run some setups after testing and farming them. That would be really broken. Like it or not it's only reasonable way to tweak things atm.

      I really can't remember when it did work

      Pls share your build with me if you really have a build for a mag sorc that can do 40+k self-buffed on the big dummy without using heavy attacks

      They tried it to balance things every 3-6 month and they failed. Even with the possibility to grind gear again it would a better way than it is now.


      Well there was a time it did work.

      I havnt said You wont need to use any heavy attack but using it once every 6-10 skills isnt end of the world I think .

      They tried also to ballance things few times in month at the beggining of the game and it was horrible. We know how long maintainances can be here and imagine You have those each few days. Also they didnt failed. It's just hard to ballance everything perfectly and You need to get use to fact this game will never see full ballance. Also I assume without PTS testing people would rage about changes before those would be even released we know how community in this game can rage about something just basing on speculations so seeing this each 2 weeks would suck. They fix what they can I also think it's not enough but having major changes each few weeks is something I wouldnt want to see.
    • RIGHTEOUS_REPORT
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      Too many bugs in this game now, the worse is the 999+ ping spikes [snip] kills me, all players and mobs just stand still, then, I'm dead.

      Please don't blame my network its working fine. These megaservers need a big upgrade.

      [Edit for censor bypass]
      Edited by ZOS_Bill on July 3, 2017 12:53PM
    • faerigirl
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      Too many bugs in this game now, the worse is the 999+ ping spikes [snip] kills me, all players and mobs just stand still, then, I'm dead.

      Please don't blame my network its working fine. These megaservers need a big upgrade.

      There is still a lot that's broken. I think what irks people the most is things like the group finder and lag.

      The lag has been around since CBT's and I will admit that it's better than it was at launch and the group finder not long after that, so yeah, years gone by and these things are still bad. I don't have much lag but some people...it must feel unplayable to them.

      [Edited to match quote]
      Edited by ZOS_Bill on July 3, 2017 12:53PM
    • Zer0oo
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      Juhasow wrote: »

      I havnt said You wont need to use any heavy attack but using it once every 6-10 skills isnt end of the world I think .

      Still want to know the build and rotation.

      A normal rotation with fp as spam-able skills costs ~19k mag, if you factor in elem drain+regen you lose per rotation(8sec) 13k mag.
      Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
      - Update 23
    • SanderBuraas
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      Rickter wrote: »
      Zer0oo wrote: »
      L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
      (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

      so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

      LOL.

      lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
      @Rickter

      The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.
    • Stopnaggin
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      Smepic wrote: »
      Rickter wrote: »
      Zer0oo wrote: »
      L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
      (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

      so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

      LOL.

      lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
      @Rickter

      The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

      While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

      Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.
    • Rickter
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      Smepic wrote: »
      The forum is a place for complaints.

      Are you for real? you are for real! Next youre going to tell me The World is Flat

      So listen. I understand the forums are a place where complaints can be presented and with hope, heard by the development team. But this thread is a rehash and poorly structured half-asssed attempt at simply raging. Raging is not constructive, its not productive, and without any firm argument structure, it comes off whiny.

      As multiple people continue to point out.

      Ultimately: the forums are supposed to be a place in which community building discussion in its various forums can occur and continued to be fostered.

      "complaints" can be regulated to the "Bugs and Fixes" threads or otherwise established Feedback threads - NOT in general discussion whining about how one insignificant individual hates ESO.
      Edited by Rickter on June 28, 2017 2:43PM
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    • Zer0oo
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      Stopnaggin wrote: »
      Smepic wrote: »
      Rickter wrote: »
      Zer0oo wrote: »
      L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
      (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

      so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

      LOL.

      lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.
      @Rickter

      The forum is a place for complaints. The problem is that Zenimax Online don't listen to their players. "Let's fix it ourselves", yet it only seems to get worse.

      While it's a place to complain it generally helps to have a complaint other than I hate this game. Also telling someone they can't have an opinion because they haven't completed certain content is beyond rediculas.

      Without something specific to look at, they will never get it fixed. Yes the can I have your stuff, the it's rng, and comments lie that don't help, but are almost to be expected anymore. I believe the op was looking for these kinds of response just by the title.

      Come on pls L2Read. I never said he can't have an opinion, i was just curious who the one is who made the first comment useless comment. And i never said i hate the game, i really liked that game.
      Edited by Zer0oo on June 28, 2017 2:44PM
      Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
      - Update 23
    • StormWylf
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      This is simply click bait.
    • rotaugen454
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      StormWylf wrote: »
      This is simply click bait.

      Top 5 reasons people complain about ESO: Number 3 will shock you!
      "Get off my lawn!"
    • faerigirl
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      StormWylf wrote: »
      This is simply click bait.

      Top 5 reasons people complain about ESO: Number 3 will shock you!

      You sir win the thread!!
    • Stopnaggin
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      StormWylf wrote: »
      This is simply click bait.

      Top 5 reasons people complain about ESO: Number 3 will shock you!

      Instant awsome +1 Sir, well played.
    • Zer0oo
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      StormWylf wrote: »
      This is simply click bait.

      Maybe, but prove one point i made wrong.
      Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
      - Update 23
    • Stopnaggin
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      Zer0oo wrote: »
      StormWylf wrote: »
      This is simply click bait.

      Maybe, but prove one point i made wrong.

      1. PVE is not all heavy attacks
      2. Groupfinder works, at least for me
      3. 3 month for fixes, nah some have been years
    • SanTii.92
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      How is sad attempt of a post still not closed.
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    • nhisso
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      Rickter wrote: »
      Zer0oo wrote: »
      L2Read. I never said that i quit the game
      (also why don't you have vmol hm or vhof?)

      so. . . I need vmol hm and vhof clears to comment now?

      LOL.

      lemme know when you quit the game. if you arent going to quit, at least have some decency and stop whining on the forums. a majority of people playing eso actually really enjoy it still.

      Fanboyism at its most despicable. You should feel bad.
      The OP is spot on. And there are many more valid complaints he didnt even touch on, so get over yourself. I enjoy this game. Doesnt mean there is nothing to criticize.
    • Zer0oo
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      Stopnaggin wrote: »
      Zer0oo wrote: »
      StormWylf wrote: »
      This is simply click bait.

      Maybe, but prove one point i made wrong.

      1. PVE is not all heavy attacks
      2. Groupfinder works, at least for me
      3. 3 month for fixes, nah some have been years


      Nice to see that you don't try to disprove that almost everything is bugged, but for the rest you may want to look up what a prove is.
      SanTii.92 wrote: »
      How is sad attempt of a post still not closed.

      People like you keep this post alive. Making absolut useless posts in here and most of the people who are posting didn't even bother to read my original post.

      It was just a random rage post after being stuck in a que and after getting in bg to get a endless loading screen, which resulted in getting a 20 min penalty to join again. So i made a rage post about everything that is pissing me off.
      Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus
      - Update 23
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