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I would say yes, but only while you have at least one more piece of that set equipped.

I have never understood why only two of the six weapon lines in the game get the set bonus. 2h (such as greatsword), bow, destruction and restoration staffs can't use the second slot, but dual wield (arguably the best weapon line in the game) and sword & shield can? Why? No one on these forums has ever been able to provide a logical, satisfactory answer.

The game's design allows for two weapon slots, but 66% of the available weapon lines can't use both slots. Makes zero sense.

By the way, @nekomages, may I suggest that you change the title of your thread? It is misleading because 2-slot weapons already do get the 2-set bonus. It's the four one-slot weapon lines that don't get the bonus. I answered 'yes' but am not sure it's really what I wanted to vote for. So to make it clear: I vote for all weapon lines to be able to use both equipment slots.

Skayaq wrote: »

I would say yes, but only while you have at least one more piece of that set equipped.

That is something I could easily live with and might pacify some of the no because of <insert random it is op reason> people.

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

Waiting for beating dead horse gif

You called?

XD

You should also have to farm two pieces.
Eg. The blade and hilt or the staff and fire rune, gem, crystal...a magic essence thing.
Then you could also mix and match set bonuses and kind of get to build your own custom weapon.

Psylum wrote: »

You should also have to farm two pieces.
Eg. The blade and hilt or the staff and fire rune, gem, crystal...a magic essence thing. Then you could also mix and match set bonuses and kind of get to build your own custom weapon.

oh lol button

Chadak wrote: »

Something really ought to be done to recognize that 2h weapons steal two slots rather than one. As it is, its a total loss of a gear slot with nothing I can see as a tradeoff gained.

The skill lines for two handed weapons aren't superior either. They're just skill lines that do stuff, same as those that let you use all your gear slots for set bonuses.

Am I missing something profound that's supposed to be some big offset?

Is there some 'Oh well actually, two handed weapons get +0.0238% damage differential over time as measured in quarterly intervals' OPness I'm incapable, as a human without access to longterm metric data, of perceiving?

Are we just supposed to suck it up like the buttercups we are if we're foolish enough to use staves, 2h weapons or bows while concerning ourselves with sets?

I've been bothered by this since the first time I sat down to look at putting set pieces on my very first character.

What's the story here?

2H pvp king, staves ranged, only raid pve is 2h melee a little worse than dw. just deal with the endgame something always have to be a little bit better somehow.

Chadak wrote: »

Something really ought to be done to recognize that 2h weapons steal two slots rather than one. As it is, its a total loss of a gear slot with nothing I can see as a tradeoff gained.

The skill lines for two handed weapons aren't superior either. They're just skill lines that do stuff, same as those that let you use all your gear slots for set bonuses.

Am I missing something profound that's supposed to be some big offset?

Is there some 'Oh well actually, two handed weapons get +0.0238% damage differential over time as measured in quarterly intervals' OPness I'm incapable, as a human without access to longterm metric data, of perceiving?

Are we just supposed to suck it up like the buttercups we are if we're foolish enough to use staves, 2h weapons or bows while concerning ourselves with sets?

I've been bothered by this since the first time I sat down to look at putting set pieces on my very first character.

What's the story here?

RE the bold - something was - actually - many things were.

ICYMI - theyre have been balance patches, balance tweaks, balance adjustments many times over in this game since live and every single time there was playtest or metrics or whatever process involved and every single time those were done based on that data the "slot count diff" was already baked into those results.

See, a patch or two ago when they adjusted 2h skill line skill up in damage because " it was under performing in..." blah blah, they did not take off to this magical test land where the 2h weapon had some equal set count to gather metrics. So there was no case of "well gosh we did not take into account the set thingy."

They used the metrics from the live game and pts where at each point the "set count thingy" figured into the results.

See, every time they run PTS or internal test or draw on live data, they are drawing on data where "set count diff" is in play, its impacts felt and results taking it into account.

They really should not need to tell you "yes we made this specific tweak on account of that set count" because like most everything, it all adds into the final numbers and results.

So, nah, its not "unrecognized"... not at all - any more than "hey heavy armor has higher armor bonus than light" is unrecognized just because they dont draw you a map.

Skayaq wrote: »

I would say yes, but only while you have at least one more piece of that set equipped.

I'd love to see it work like that.

Its only 1 weapon.