StamTemplars, StamDKs, StamNightblades, Stamsorcs, StamWardens! step right up

Sarato · June 2017

pros and cons about your classes

Cadbury · June 2017

Pro: It's Stamina!
Con: it's Stamina!

Merlin13KAGL · June 2017

Farming stars with these two posts?

You're expecting simple answers to complex questions.

Magıc · June 2017

Pvp or Pve?

Pvp: stamplar is fine imo, but I don't play much of mine so stamplar mains may feel differently.

Stamblade is broken with proc sets & okay without. Started playing mine recently, both proc and non proc and it's easily the best 1vX class atm.

Stamsorc not sure, seems okay like stamplar but don't play enough of mine to know for sure.

Stamden no clue. All the pvpers I've talked to tried it and quit within days cause it's survivability is non existent.

Stamdk = read my sig. It's weak, it's 'strong' in heavy relying on dizzy swing but in every other playstyle it's just outright weak. Still tanky but lack damage in heavy or surviviability in medium. Dizzy swing is absolute trash on PC EU cause the server is stupidly laggy and the players are cancerous, which leads to SnB playstyle which has so little damage, even with viper.

Pve:

They are all fine except stamden. Stam is pulling the most ST dps and we're seeing 2-3 stam builds per top raid group now. It'll never be 4/4 for stam/mag in raids cause raids are designed with a lot of trash which is where mag shines, but it's nice to see stam pulling the most ST and getting a few slots in raids.

Stamden either no one has figured out how to play it as a DD or it just sucks.

Sarato · June 2017

Cadbury wrote: »

Pro: It's Stamina!
Con: it's Stamina!

A+ my good sir.

Sarato · June 2017

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Farming stars with these two posts?

You're expecting simple answers to complex questions.

planning on making a stamdk or stamsorc, made a magicka thread b/c im going to make a magblade soon. Might as well get all the classes in for thoughts. AND separated b/c of arguments. so yeah basically farming stars.

Sarato · June 2017

Magıc wrote: »

Pvp or Pve?

Pvp: stamplar is fine imo, but I don't play much of mine so stamplar mains may feel differently.

Stamblade is broken with proc sets & okay without. Started playing mine recently, both proc and non proc and it's easily the best 1vX class atm.

Stamsorc not sure, seems okay like stamplar but don't play enough of mine to know for sure.

Stamden no clue. All the pvpers I've talked to tried it and quit within days cause it's survivability is non existent.

Stamdk = read my sig. It's weak, it's 'strong' in heavy relying on dizzy swing but in every other playstyle it's just outright weak. Still tanky but lack damage in heavy or surviviability in medium. Dizzy swing is absolute trash on PC EU cause the server is stupidly laggy and the players are cancerous, which leads to SnB playstyle which has so little damage, even with viper.

Pve:

They are all fine except stamden. Stam is pulling the most ST dps and we're seeing 2-3 stam builds per top raid group now. It'll never be 4/4 for stam/mag in raids cause raids are designed with a lot of trash which is where mag shines, but it's nice to see stam pulling the most ST and getting a few slots in raids.

Stamden either no one has figured out how to play it as a DD or it just sucks.

what is "DD"

Magıc · June 2017

Sarato wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Pvp or Pve?

Pvp: stamplar is fine imo, but I don't play much of mine so stamplar mains may feel differently.

Stamblade is broken with proc sets & okay without. Started playing mine recently, both proc and non proc and it's easily the best 1vX class atm.

Stamsorc not sure, seems okay like stamplar but don't play enough of mine to know for sure.

Stamden no clue. All the pvpers I've talked to tried it and quit within days cause it's survivability is non existent.

Stamdk = read my sig. It's weak, it's 'strong' in heavy relying on dizzy swing but in every other playstyle it's just outright weak. Still tanky but lack damage in heavy or surviviability in medium. Dizzy swing is absolute trash on PC EU cause the server is stupidly laggy and the players are cancerous, which leads to SnB playstyle which has so little damage, even with viper.

Pve:

They are all fine except stamden. Stam is pulling the most ST dps and we're seeing 2-3 stam builds per top raid group now. It'll never be 4/4 for stam/mag in raids cause raids are designed with a lot of trash which is where mag shines, but it's nice to see stam pulling the most ST and getting a few slots in raids.

Stamden either no one has figured out how to play it as a DD or it just sucks.

what is "DD"

Damage dealer.

Kay1 · June 2017

I don't know but StamDK and StamWard need a serious buff

DocFrost72 · June 2017

Kay1 wrote: »

I don't know but StamDK and StamWard need a serious buff

Sarato · June 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

I don't know but StamDK and StamWard need a serious buff

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DocFrost72 · June 2017

Fixed!

Nemesis7884 · June 2017

Cadbury wrote: »

Pro: It's Stamina!
Con: it's Stamina!

A very detailed and truthful analysis indeed

agingerinohio · June 2017

Stamsorc is absolutely strong. Crit heals for days and a heavy hitter if you play it right. My absolute favorite style to play.
Stamden can also be strong and a heavy hitter. It's taken some time to get used to and playing around with the build to get it where I want it damage wise. I have taken her through trials and aqcuired the TFS set. Bosmer two hand and bow set up, dual weild when I think that will be the better option.

Cadbury · June 2017

Magıc wrote: »

Pvp or Pve?

Pvp: stamplar is fine imo, but I don't play much of mine so stamplar mains may feel differently.

Stamblade is broken with proc sets & okay without. Started playing mine recently, both proc and non proc and it's easily the best 1vX class atm.

Stamsorc not sure, seems okay like stamplar but don't play enough of mine to know for sure.

Stamden no clue. All the pvpers I've talked to tried it and quit within days cause it's survivability is non existent.

Stamdk = read my sig. It's weak, it's 'strong' in heavy relying on dizzy swing but in every other playstyle it's just outright weak. Still tanky but lack damage in heavy or surviviability in medium. Dizzy swing is absolute trash on PC EU cause the server is stupidly laggy and the players are cancerous, which leads to SnB playstyle which has so little damage, even with viper.

Pve:

They are all fine except stamden. Stam is pulling the most ST dps and we're seeing 2-3 stam builds per top raid group now. It'll never be 4/4 for stam/mag in raids cause raids are designed with a lot of trash which is where mag shines, but it's nice to see stam pulling the most ST and getting a few slots in raids.

Stamden either no one has figured out how to play it as a DD or it just sucks.

From what I've seen from stamdens (both lower level and vet), they only seem to use the bear and the bull netch. I even asked a few vet rank stamdens why that is, and was told they were the only viable skills stamdens have.

Edit: should clarify that this is from a PvE perspective

Sarato · June 2017

Talking about PvP sorry, planning on making a stamsorc cuz Fengrush inspired

Flameheart · June 2017

Pretty pleased with the performance of my Stamblade in PvE.

Actually I am such pleased - not just concerning my dps scores but for the feeling of playing too (still pretty fast paced combat), that I am actually pretty bored and disgusted when I log back on my magicka chars...

Kodrac · June 2017

Maybe a pro to some and a con to others, but they all play the same. Get yourself a couple daggers and a bow and have at it.

Biro123 · June 2017

Cadbury wrote: »

Pro: It's Stamina!
Con: it's Stamina!

Can I play??

Pro: Procsets
Con: Procsets

Mazbt · June 2017

Everyone's gonna have their own biases about their favourite classes, and non favourite classes. Just try them out.

Kay1 · June 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

I don't know but StamDK and StamWard need a serious buff

Yeah they are both ***, especially the DK, I don't know what they did to it but damn, they are ridiculous at the moment.

I've tried five different builds and they are *** on all of them, while the MagDK is atm the best dueling class again and very good for Open World, I really hope it's possible to 1vX with one, I would like to talk with an expert in magdk and ask him his opinion before I race change my stamdk to magdk.

ArchMikem · June 2017

Stamblade: Pros:
Great burst damage.
Excels in single target damage.
Abilities for easy escape and hiding.
Bonuses to Crit.
It's the "cool class".
Enables PvP Easy Mode.

Cons:
Utterly sucks at AoE even if using AoEs.
Survivability is crap even with Vigor.
Why do you even bother in Dungeons and Trials?

StamKnight: Pros:
Better resistances.
Plenty of DoTs to use.
Bonuses to Poison damage.
Class skill that gives you Major buff to Weapon/Spell damage on demand.
You can DPS or Tank.

Cons:
Single target kinda sucks.
You're missing out on 95% of all the other class skills, because they're Magic.
You can't whip it nae nae cause that's Magic.
You can't effectively use the gap closer, cause that's Magic.
You don't have a class execute skill.

Sarato · June 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

Stamblade: Pros:
Great burst damage.
Excels in single target damage.
Abilities for easy escape and hiding.
Bonuses to Crit.
It's the "cool class".
Enables PvP Easy Mode.

Cons:
Utterly sucks at AoE even if using AoEs.
Survivability is crap even with Vigor.
Why do you even bother in Dungeons and Trials?

StamKnight: Pros:
Better resistances.
Plenty of DoTs to use.
Bonuses to Poison damage.
Class skill that gives you Major buff to Weapon/Spell damage on demand.
You can DPS or Tank.

Cons:
Single target kinda sucks.
You're missing out on 95% of all the other class skills, because they're Magic.
You can't whip it nae nae cause that's Magic.
You can't effectively use the gap closer, cause that's Magic.
You don't have a class execute skill.

It was perfect then you said "whip it nae nae"...

CyrusArya · June 2017

All in a PvP context

Stamplar:
Pros- Jabs, Purge, OP Rune of Tankiness, Power of the Light burst. High damage and high survivability.
Cons- worst sustain of all stam classes.

Stamblade:
Pros- best single target burst, quick abilities that weave very well, cloak, shadow image mind games. High burst and sustain.
Cons- relatively less survivability, competetive bars.

Stam DK:
Pros- incredible tankiness, powerful dots, battle roar, LEAP burst. High tankiness, very well rounded.
Cons- reliant on weapon abilities, source of major mending is very expensive. Kind of generic playstyle in its typical usage.

Stam Sorc:
Pros- best mobility in the game, incredible sustain via Dark Deal if used right, hurricane pbaoe, surge heals, implosion. High mobility high sustain* (edit) OVERLOAD BAR.
Cons- reliant on weapon abilities, only source of sustain, tho powerful, can be shut down in which case it's useless.

Stam Warden:
Pros- Extremely High layered burst, both undodgeable and unblockable skills, very versatile due to access to many buffs. Ability to heal others. Extremely high burst** and great group utility.
Cons- all layered burst, little instant damage means it has to be played methodically unless you are spamming cliff racers in a zerg. Competetive bars. Too many good skills to choose from! (First world class problems).

acw37162 · June 2017

Con: No matter which stamina class you play they pretty much all feel the same.

Zardayne · June 2017

Stam Warden
Pros
Nature Themed
Burst damage is great especially on motionless, , unaware, staged PVE.
Bird of Prey is great for the 8% damage,
I love leeching vines (especially if it did some damage). I think this is why I keep trying to make Stamden work.
Un-dodgeable bird works to give my bow bar some ranged damage,
Shimmering shield-Cool reflect ability but I'm still unsure what all it actually reflects. Does it work on Frags? From what I've heard no.
Ice Fortress-Moveable 8% damage reduction nice..if it wasn't ice on a nature class.
Stamina burst heal. Not real thrilled with it but at least warden has access to it!
Over the top stamina and magica regen passives.

Con-
Burst Damage-In my opinion a one trick pony thats for burst DPS. In PVP if you miss your dizzying swing or if your shalks miss you're back to square one. It's damage is all based off of everything hitting at once. It's great and all against a target dummy, a whole different game against moving and god forbid an intelligent target. Add on to that all of the buffing...geez. I'm still on the fence on mine and i always play nature classes (druids and rangers) but I'm having a lot of problems wrapping my head around this class. I've been waiting for this class since launch and feel abit let down to be honest. Even at 50 I've ended up back on my stamplar twice. He might not have all of the bonuses like undodgeable birds and bird of prey but I can just get in there and fight.
Bear doesnt work have the time and is double barred. Ridiculous!
Cold based abilities on a nature class. WTF? Should have been on the necromancer
Spammable bird seems so slow...
Hate the netch..hate the blinding beam it does. Unfortunately if you want major brutality and your not a 2 handed user or want to throw a knife, this is what your stuck with.
No Stamina CC
No Cleanse

Stamplar
Pros
Very good sustained dps,
power of the light
Spears! Unfortunately it's the only spears in game so I feel compelled to use this class.
Javelin for CC
Rune for 8% damage reduction
Extended Ritual- Cleanse is great. On my Stamden I was so missing this ability in PVP...
Burning light passive
Repentance

Cons
No class major brutality (to me just not enough cool sources in the game)
Minor Mending
Rune for damage reduction locks me in a small space.
Most abilities on the templar have visuals that are lackluster compared to most other classes, especially the warden. Most are pretty plain jane..
Eclipse needs to be looked at so that it works better.
Class Gap closer-charge! Does this ability still hold you charging in place most of the time like Fred Flintstone? It's been that long since I've even attempted to use it.
Average damage shield
Having repentance slotted with no dead bodies around when you need a heal!
Class execute is magica only.
Needs that old ability back that blinded nearby attackers (blinding light?)
All spear abilities need to look like an actual spear. Make it glowy and golden if you want to. I wish the jabs animation was a bit cooler too.

Zardayne · June 2017

Bump back to page one. I'd like to see more peoples thoughts on this.

Loralai_907 · June 2017

My "main" is a stam DK. I do everything on that character, for achievement point purposes, and she is my master crafter so she gets all the recipes/furniture plans/motifs. As far as fighting and such, she's OK. But she certainly isn't ever hitting any leaderboards on anything in the game. Which sucks, because I want all the points on her, which means eventually dragging her through content that is not going to fit well with her. Not that I would be aiming for leaderboards, but I would like to not drag other people down with me lol.

I have a stam NB. And I hate it. It bores me to death. I have only kept her to keep myself from forgetting how much I hate it and going through the leveling process again down the road only to remember I hate it.

I have a stam sorc, but I really haven't done very much on it. So, no opinion there.

elfantasmo · June 2017

This dude needs tamrielfoundry ...do your own research.

Enslaved · June 2017

sDK
Pros:

It is what I like.

Sarato · June 2017

elfantasmo wrote: »

This dude needs tamrielfoundry ...do your own research.

I use that too, this just helps get xtra opinions in