Self Resurrection Exploit?

DeadRune · June 2017

So, I went searching for this now to see how they're actually doing this and happened upon a video. It looks like it's a glitch zos's side? Like when they die they actually have the option to press 'revive here.' I wonder if it affects only certain players who have it or if it's like once in a while it just glitches?

The video shows a guy fighting in front of a keep, dying, and then shows the x for 'revive here' - this is on PS4 I think. I'm not going to post it because it might be considered naming and shaming. The guy in the video indicates that this has been a glitch since homestead.

Ch4mpTW · June 2017

DeadRune wrote: »

So, I went searching for this now to see how they're actually doing this and happened upon a video. It looks like it's a glitch zos's side? Like when they die they actually have the option to press 'revive here.' I wonder if it affects only certain players who have it or if it's like once in a while it just glitches?

The video shows a guy fighting in front of a keep, dying, and then shows the x for 'revive here' - this is on PS4 I think. I'm not going to post it because it might be considered naming and shaming. The guy in the video indicates that this has been a glitch since homestead.

Wow. If it's been around since Homestead, then that's absolutely horrible. Just think for a moment how many people could've been exploiting this, and without anyone's knowledge.

It's because of things like this that I question the validity of everything that occurs within PvP environments. How many times have we as a community felt that a player was using cheats or exploits, only for someone to come and say how we're making something out of nothing. And that we should "get good". Only for months later ZOS to finally acknowledge the exploit occurring, as it had gotten completely out of hand. Resulting in players saying, "I told you so." and those telling others to "get good" end-up being suspended or banned. How many must that scenario repeat itself?

kuro-dono · June 2017

ppl will do their utter best to exploit the game world. pretty much everyone who defends here at forums agenda or demands nerf demands it for the sake of advancing their own agenda.

Griefing and trolling, in mmo:s people put loads of effort into that. It has somehow become acceptable and norm.
Similar how ppl think that if i go out with my 3 friends and we chat here and there but vast majority of their time goes in facebooking with their smart phones and taking fancy photos and maybe even group photo to include you they think its okay and acceptable. ps i dont use facebook or any other time sink website. well thats wrong. i spend loads of times on eso forums. but i dont own smart phone.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

jlboozer wrote: »

Things like this are the reason I only PvE in this game. I get my PvP fix in Destiny still...it has very fun PvP imo!

Isn't Destiny 2 supposedly in the works, and is deemed the next highly-anticipated multiplayer game outside of Call of Duty: WW2? After those games are released, and the reviews are solid, I think I'll get my fill of PvP from 1 or both of those titles. Because ESO PvP is still in a pretty bad state (even with the introduction of battlegrounds), and Overwatch just isn't holding me like it used to.

Any PvP game that doesn't have a healthy e-sports scene is junk. It means the devs are good at balancing. No e-sports scenes means devs have no idea what they are doing (or it's just a casual game, like Desinty, CoD, ESO, etc.).

Good PvP games:

CS:GO, Overwatch, DOTA 2, HoTS, LoL, StarCraft 2, etc.

TyroneShoelaces · June 2017

This is actually in their very own patch notes... You guys maybe just didn't get that update yet?

General
You can no longer use Frozen Gate to pull other players into spawn locations in Imperial City. You can also no longer cast Nature’s Grasp abilities to get back into respawn locations.
When resurrecting to a Cyrodiil Keep from Imperial City, you will now actually be sent to the Keep rather than resurrecting in place or falling to your doom.

laksikus · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

jlboozer wrote: »

Things like this are the reason I only PvE in this game. I get my PvP fix in Destiny still...it has very fun PvP imo!

Isn't Destiny 2 supposedly in the works, and is deemed the next highly-anticipated multiplayer game outside of Call of Duty: WW2? After those games are released, and the reviews are solid, I think I'll get my fill of PvP from 1 or both of those titles. Because ESO PvP is still in a pretty bad state (even with the introduction of battlegrounds), and Overwatch just isn't holding me like it used to.

Any PvP game that doesn't have a healthy e-sports scene is junk. It means the devs are good at balancing. No e-sports scenes means devs have no idea what they are doing (or it's just a casual game, like Desinty, CoD, ESO, etc.).

Good PvP games:

CS:GO, Overwatch, DOTA 2, HoTS, LoL, StarCraft 2, etc.

You can only have an esport if you can compete against each other, which isnt possible in MMOs like eso.
Thats has nothing to do with balance

Ch4mpTW · June 2017

TyroneShoelaces wrote: »

This is actually in their very own patch notes... You guys maybe just didn't get that update yet?

General
You can no longer use Frozen Gate to pull other players into spawn locations in Imperial City. You can also no longer cast Nature’s Grasp abilities to get back into respawn locations.
When resurrecting to a Cyrodiil Keep from Imperial City, you will now actually be sent to the Keep rather than resurrecting in place or falling to your doom.

But bruh, bruh... In the fight I had when this occurred? I was using a MagDK, and my opponent was a MagSorc. Lol. There were no Wardens involved at all.

TyroneShoelaces · June 2017

Has nothing to do with wardens...
That's just a copy and paste of the patch notes that shows two fixes in the "general" section.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · June 2017

BigES wrote: »

They're rampant on Xbox NA. Entire groups of players resurrection exploiting.

I'd care more, but I just kill them again.

Not like ZoS is going to do anything about it, so what's the point.

just report them to xbox live, it is breaking their t&c's they will first get a 2 week ban then a month ban then a 6 month ban then a life time ban, that way it goes around zos

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · June 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

How do they do it? That's what I want to know. Does it cost a soulgem? Just for research reasons of course.

Lmao. For research.

they are using a cheat engine

Glamdring · June 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

TyroneShoelaces wrote: »

This is actually in their very own patch notes... You guys maybe just didn't get that update yet?

General
You can no longer use Frozen Gate to pull other players into spawn locations in Imperial City. You can also no longer cast Nature’s Grasp abilities to get back into respawn locations.
When resurrecting to a Cyrodiil Keep from Imperial City, you will now actually be sent to the Keep rather than resurrecting in place or falling to your doom.

But bruh, bruh... In the fight I had when this occurred? I was using a MagDK, and my opponent was a MagSorc. Lol. There were no Wardens involved at all.

u where in imperial city?

pod88kk · June 2017

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

How do they do it? That's what I want to know. Does it cost a soulgem? Just for research reasons of course.

Lmao. For research.

they are using a cheat engine

Same thing is happening on Xbox EU, didn't realize you could use a cheat engine on consoles

Glamdring · June 2017

@Ch4mpTW and for your own sake drop the thought that ppl are exploiting left and right. When i get whispers like "nice macro" its from players like yourself that constantly think players are exploiting instead of looking at themself.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · June 2017

pod88kk wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

How do they do it? That's what I want to know. Does it cost a soulgem? Just for research reasons of course.

Lmao. For research.

they are using a cheat engine

Same thing is happening on Xbox EU, didn't realize you could use a cheat engine on consoles

yeah u can they have broke the outer casing on the xbox which normal means a life ban and on ps4 it use linux which means u can do anything you would do on a pc

TyroneShoelaces · June 2017

Reading comprehension check...
*Rolls a 1*

BlitzWing97 · June 2017

tenpeir wrote: »

Is there a suit of armour, where if you die it will resurrected you. I seem to recall it was around about about a year and a half ago

There is indeed, but you turn into a statue then revive. Not flop to floor and get back up like we have seen
The amour is Phoenix : http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Phoenix+Set

Haulinash · June 2017

Did he do it more than once? there is also a skill in the Passive Skills Tree Called "Soul Summons (0/2)"

Allows player to revive without expending a Soul Gem once every 2 hours.

Maybe this is what was happening?

Unfadingsilence · June 2017

I have sent in a few videos now to zos and still nothing going on with it and the same ppl still doing the bug/exploit in pvp

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · June 2017

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

I have sent in a few videos now to zos and still nothing going on with it and the same ppl still doing the bug/exploit in pvp

u wont hear anything zos will do this back door they need an proof, after you sent in the vids they will watch these peeps accounts and when enough proof they will act

Unfadingsilence · June 2017

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

I have sent in a few videos now to zos and still nothing going on with it and the same ppl still doing the bug/exploit in pvp

u wont hear anything zos will do this back door they need an proof, after you sent in the vids they will watch these peeps accounts and when enough proof they will act

Ya but how much do they need just on 5 ppl it was a total of 30 videos and it was over 3 weeks ago and they are still in there going strong with it

Kay1 · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

jlboozer wrote: »

Things like this are the reason I only PvE in this game. I get my PvP fix in Destiny still...it has very fun PvP imo!

Isn't Destiny 2 supposedly in the works, and is deemed the next highly-anticipated multiplayer game outside of Call of Duty: WW2? After those games are released, and the reviews are solid, I think I'll get my fill of PvP from 1 or both of those titles. Because ESO PvP is still in a pretty bad state (even with the introduction of battlegrounds), and Overwatch just isn't holding me like it used to.

Any PvP game that doesn't have a healthy e-sports scene is junk. It means the devs are good at balancing. No e-sports scenes means devs have no idea what they are doing (or it's just a casual game, like Desinty, CoD, ESO, etc.).

Good PvP games:

CS:GO, Overwatch, DOTA 2, HoTS, LoL, StarCraft 2, etc.

Destiny is actually promoted by MLG, there's been more than 10 official tournaments and hundreds of amateur tournaments with very good cash prizes.

I'm actually retired from Globality (now is Vitality, they bought our team) and my active old friends have a VERY good salary, for Destiny 2 there's more than 20 professional MLG teams that are going to come on Destiny 2 since it's going to get released on PC.

About CoD I have no idea but if I'm not wrong they do million dollars tournaments.

ESO can become e-sport but it needs CP, ranked Matchmaking, removed poisons, remove procs, removal of burst healing and a lot of banned skills.

The Battlegrounds are dead atm and they are broken so it ruined the future of Battlegrounds for ever, many people will never play those again so I don't ESO will ever have professional PvP, they destroyed the hype and the release was awful, once they make those free for everyone they will have another opportunity but Zos are too stupid at marketing to actually open a door to the rich e sport market.

Vietfox · June 2017

It happened to me once, i resurrected by doing nothing. I think the reason is that i was about to reach the next level, i died and waited there because there were some people around. I kept getting exp cause i was in a group, and when i got next level i resurrected with no help at all. That could be the problem.

smokey13a · June 2017

DeadRune wrote: »

So, I went searching for this now to see how they're actually doing this and happened upon a video. It looks like it's a glitch zos's side? Like when they die they actually have the option to press 'revive here.' I wonder if it affects only certain players who have it or if it's like once in a while it just glitches?

The video shows a guy fighting in front of a keep, dying, and then shows the x for 'revive here' - this is on PS4 I think. I'm not going to post it because it might be considered naming and shaming. The guy in the video indicates that this has been a glitch since homestead.

I don't know if there is an actual exploit that allows players to res themselves after being killed by a member of an enemy faction but I can confirm this^ can happen without an exploit as it happened to me, the day before yesterday I was just messing around in cyro on a new build to test it and got killed by multiple DC players(I'm EP) outside the front door of chalman keep and I had the normal res screen with the "Press A to Resurrect", I pressed "A" and ressed in place without using any exploit, I figured it just glitched but whether there is a glitch an exploit or both it needs to be fixed.

ps. just for the record(and before anyone says it), I never heard of this glitch/exploit or whatever it is till reading this thread and it's only happened to me once.

Kay1 · June 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Kay1 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/QBLU28A26Z8

This is the exploit he's talking about.

You're super ballsy posting that. Lol. Every time I post something, I always get warnings out the wazoo of how I may get suspended for naming and shaming.

Either way, kudos for putting blues on blast. DC has been really going OD on the exploiting and glitching. It's insane. And I'm not saying that other alliances haven't exploited, but on PS4-NA DC literally has the reputation of finding exploits and abusing them. Remember the whole gap-closing into keeps? The Covenant was infamous for doing it to capture keeps and outposts without any sign that something was wrong before it's too late. Remember the whole double AP event exploiters? The vast majority of the players banned for doing it were mainly DC and EP players. It's sad really. The emperorship sharing community is heavy on the DC side as well. In fact, a certain someone on PS4-NA Vivec with a name that begins with the letter "G" that is Rank #1 for AD is speculated to be exploiting and was known for emperor sharing in Scourge pre-Morrowind as a DC player. Him and his clique did it day and night and pretty much had things in lock. ZOS did nothing to them for their actions, though they've been complained about for months on end. It was also ironic that the majority of the players banned for that racist "rally" on PS4-NA in Craglorn were DC players primarily.

The thing is that I don't give a single *cough* about their ridiculous way of hiding and protecting cheaters, because that's what they do with their name and shaming policy, not only they ruin our life of us people who play this game in a legit way but they also just get banned for 3 DAYS? and I'm gonna shut up or I get banned? Ahhh if I could say what I want.

I named and shamed those guys in 3 different forums, 7 PSN chats and asked my entire guild to report them, that's what I do to your name and shaming policy Zenimax

Caligamy_ESO · June 2017

Warnings for naming and shaming incoming + /thread

Will be interesting to see if they actually make an effort to fix this one, with Midyear Mayhem just around the corner.

Rygonix · June 2017

Midyear Mayhem is going to be quite fun if they don't fix this by then

SwaminoNowlino · June 2017

This bug has indeed been around since Homestead. Its happened to me a couple of times in IC. By a couple, I mean like three times in total since Homestead dropped. You'll die from PvP activity, then you're respawn options will appear identically to how they do outside of Cyrodiil. One will be "Revive Here" the other will be "Respawn at Wayshrine." When you hit respawn at wayshrine, its 50/50 whether it will take you to your Cyrodiil wayshrine (even though you were in IC) or drop you still dead at a wayshrine in like Deshaan.

What is new is that I guess people have found a way to reproduce this at will. Whole zerg of yellows in the sewer this weekend on Xbox NA were deliberately doing this every single time they died. It wasn't an occasional glitch, it was consistently used over hours/days every time.

DEATHquidox · June 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

jlboozer wrote: »

Things like this are the reason I only PvE in this game. I get my PvP fix in Destiny still...it has very fun PvP imo!

Isn't Destiny 2 supposedly in the works, and is deemed the next highly-anticipated multiplayer game outside of Call of Duty: WW2? After those games are released, and the reviews are solid, I think I'll get my fill of PvP from 1 or both of those titles. Because ESO PvP is still in a pretty bad state (even with the introduction of battlegrounds), and Overwatch just isn't holding me like it used to.

Well Tera is set to release free to play on PS4 and Xbone in 2017 and in 2018 sometime in the 2nd q we will be seeing black desert online so we are looking at some pretty good titles on PS4 here soon this brings 2 things

1) console players will flock to these games
Why: at esos state the game as a whole is okay the problem is ZOS dosent know what their doing and their small "might fixes" break the game more than they fix it. Their content is always broken when released filled with bugs (like good god the que for bgs dosent work on a 40$ piece of crap dlc box

Dude playing wow 40$ dlc box would get you another 400+ hours if not more into the game with all kinds of new stuff they have a lot of work to do and they need to step up their crap because here soon when theses games release I can already tell you their going to be good because the developer know what their doing. And they listen to their customer base. Simple as that, and that's where the players will go be warned

QuebraRegra · June 2017

Glamdring wrote: »

love u guys, ppl like u are the ones that whisper "nice macro" when u get rekt. they arent selfressurecting, they are being ressurected from stealth. still an exploit though.

is it that? They was a problem years ago... are people really still doing this stuff?
#toxic

Ch4mpTW · June 2017

DEATHquidox wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

jlboozer wrote: »

Things like this are the reason I only PvE in this game. I get my PvP fix in Destiny still...it has very fun PvP imo!

Isn't Destiny 2 supposedly in the works, and is deemed the next highly-anticipated multiplayer game outside of Call of Duty: WW2? After those games are released, and the reviews are solid, I think I'll get my fill of PvP from 1 or both of those titles. Because ESO PvP is still in a pretty bad state (even with the introduction of battlegrounds), and Overwatch just isn't holding me like it used to.

Well Tera is set to release free to play on PS4 and Xbone in 2017 and in 2018 sometime in the 2nd q we will be seeing black desert online so we are looking at some pretty good titles on PS4 here soon this brings 2 things

1) console players will flock to these games
Why: at esos state the game as a whole is okay the problem is ZOS dosent know what their doing and their small "might fixes" break the game more than they fix it. Their content is always broken when released filled with bugs (like good god the que for bgs dosent work on a 40$ piece of crap dlc box

Dude playing wow 40$ dlc box would get you another 400+ hours if not more into the game with all kinds of new stuff they have a lot of work to do and they need to step up their crap because here soon when theses games release I can already tell you their going to be good because the developer know what their doing. And they listen to their customer base. Simple as that, and that's where the players will go be warned

Well, I for 1 have already been having an eye on the new Marvel Heroes game that was launched in beta on PS4 (I don't know if X1 got the same treatment), and that game looks amazing. It's a dramatic step-up from the previous Marvel Heroes that was released on PC a long time ago, and looks and feels like an entirely different game. In fact, I know a lot of people (yes lot) who are planning on leaving ESO once Marvel Heroes goes live for the official release.

And if what you're saying is true about BDO and Tera, then ZOS will have some SERIOUS competition on their hand. And I do mean serious. ESO's population on PC and Mac are nowhere near as high as they once were. Especially with so many folks having quit from Morrowind's dramatic changes. And part of what gives ESO its strength on console, is that only FF is its rival for a MMO. And slowly but surely, FF is taking more and more players from ESO's grasp. Neverwinter is ehhhh, but let's pause for a moment and take a look at these 2 titles you just mentioned. Tera and BDO. Freaking Tera and Black Desert Online. People think ESO is a time-sink.

Tera and BDO I feel are going to be the ESO killers. Especially with exploiters and botters running rampant as they have been. Quote me on this. ZOS will have to really pull some epic magic out of their bag, if they are going to be battling against: Destiny 2, Marvel Heroes, BDO, Tera, FF, CoD:WW2, Diablo 3's new content coming (necromancer hype!!!!), The Nintendo Switch's success ever growing, etc. I don't know how much longer ZOS can keep console players hooked for, with all types of goodness coming the way of console players. And bruh, that new Dragon Ball Z game coming is speculated to be the king of fighting games and rock the fighting game scene for a veeeeery long time. Think BlazBlue fused with Budokai.