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Can we have an achievement milestone system that rewards players for completionism?

Aliyavana
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Having 20k plus achievement points means that you have dipped into all the content zos has to offer. You can't really prove you have it and there is no real incentive to get achievements that have no reward tied to them but as a completionist I'll still get them anyway. It would be nice if zos added rewards that rewarded players that complete as much content that zos developers have worked hard on, whether pvp, pve, questing you must experience them all to get a high achievement point so reward those who experiance the game to the fullest with exclusive rewards. Mounts, skins, titles etc are ideas.
  • Buffler
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    No
  • leepalmer95
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    Buffler wrote: »
    No

    why not?

    Titles/ costumes/ pets should be fine?
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  • Aliyavana
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    Buffler wrote: »
    No

    Why? Would you want master angler to be purchasable in the crown store? You don't have to run the content of you don't want to. No is pretty vague af
  • Shadzilla
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    I have 26k acheiv points.
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    Buffler wrote: »
    No

    Here a free insightful for such a detailed explanation
  • Aliyavana
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    Shadzilla wrote: »
    I have 26k acheiv points.

    You lil khajiit! I'm currently at around 23k points and vet trial achievements seem outta my reach since my char is stam
    Edited by Aliyavana on June 26, 2017 12:32AM
  • Recremen
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    Yeah if it's just cosmetic stuff then I don't see the issue. Could be fun!
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  • imnotanother
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    I've been suggesting the "Over Achiever" title for a few years now.
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  • Aliyavana
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    I've been suggesting the "Over Achiever" title for a few years now.

    Or "the mad"
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    BohnT wrote: »
    "Unemployed" "Addict"
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    Always one of those
  • bebynnag
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    NO - because

    my experience of achievement hunters are people who:-
    • throw tantrums in guild chats over motives/recipies/praxis etc
    • throw tantrums in zone chat over chests/nodes
    • look down their nose at anyone who plays the game diffrently to them then gets offended by anyone who may take a dim view on their behaviour
    • demand carries through vet dungeons they can not be bothered to complete legitimately - as in learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries through trials they have no interest in learning their role for & demand armour at the end of it- again a refusal to learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries or worse pay in game gold or real life money to other people to play their account so they can complete ALL vet trials - because they 'need' the gear but refuse to learn the mechanics and (where appropriate) work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • throw temper tantrums in zone/guild chat when they want emperor and if that fails they pay either in game gold or real life money for someone to 'hand it to them on a plate - because they hate PVP and are only there for the achievements, and dont see why they should L2P or work as part of a team to play objectivley in a fun & enjoyable way


    admittedly my experience of achievement hunters has been heavily skewed because of the people i have had the misfortune to encounter on my platform/server (especially as most of them have also been sexist pigs)

    but as far as im concerned the last thing this game needs is more freebies to incentivise exploiting, account sharing and cheating achievement hunting
  • Aliyavana
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    NO - because

    my experience of achievement hunters are people who:-
    • throw tantrums in guild chats over motives/recipies/praxis etc
    • throw tantrums in zone chat over chests/nodes
    • look down their nose at anyone who plays the game diffrently to them then gets offended by anyone who may take a dim view on their behaviour
    • demand carries through vet dungeons they can not be bothered to complete legitimately - as in learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries through trials they have no interest in learning their role for & demand armour at the end of it- again a refusal to learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries or worse pay in game gold or real life money to other people to play their account so they can complete ALL vet trials - because they 'need' the gear but refuse to learn the mechanics and (where appropriate) work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • throw temper tantrums in zone/guild chat when they want emperor and if that fails they pay either in game gold or real life money for someone to 'hand it to them on a plate - because they hate PVP and are only there for the achievements, and dont see why they should L2P or work as part of a team to play objectivley in a fun & enjoyable way


    admittedly my experience of achievement hunters has been heavily skewed because of the people i have had the misfortune to encounter on my platform/server (especially as most of them have also been sexist pigs)

    but as far as im concerned the last thing this game needs is more freebies to incentivise exploiting, account sharing and cheating achievement hunting

    Maybe it's because your on console? Pc is lighter...

    None of those apply to me or @shadzilla
  • imnotanother
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    NO - because

    my experience of achievement hunters are people who:-
    • throw tantrums in guild chats over motives/recipies/praxis etc
    • throw tantrums in zone chat over chests/nodes
    • look down their nose at anyone who plays the game diffrently to them then gets offended by anyone who may take a dim view on their behaviour
    • demand carries through vet dungeons they can not be bothered to complete legitimately - as in learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries through trials they have no interest in learning their role for & demand armour at the end of it- again a refusal to learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries or worse pay in game gold or real life money to other people to play their account so they can complete ALL vet trials - because they 'need' the gear but refuse to learn the mechanics and (where appropriate) work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • throw temper tantrums in zone/guild chat when they want emperor and if that fails they pay either in game gold or real life money for someone to 'hand it to them on a plate - because they hate PVP and are only there for the achievements, and dont see why they should L2P or work as part of a team to play objectivley in a fun & enjoyable way


    admittedly my experience of achievement hunters has been heavily skewed because of the people i have had the misfortune to encounter on my platform/server (especially as most of them have also been sexist pigs)

    but as far as im concerned the last thing this game needs is more freebies to incentivise exploiting, account sharing and cheating achievement hunting

    Wow...
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  • idk
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Having 20k plus achievement points means that you have dipped into all the content zos has to offer. You can't really prove you have it and there is no real incentive to get achievements that have no reward tied to them but as a completionist I'll still get them anyway. It would be nice if zos added rewards that rewarded players that complete as much content that zos developers have worked hard on, whether pvp, pve, questing you must experience them all to get a high achievement point so reward those who experiance the game to the fullest with exclusive rewards. Mounts, skins, titles etc are ideas.

    Rewards are built into the system. Titles, costumes, skins, hats and dies. I may have missed something but that is at least the bulk of achievement reward areas.
  • bebynnag
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    NO - because

    my experience of achievement hunters are people who:-
    • throw tantrums in guild chats over motives/recipies/praxis etc
    • throw tantrums in zone chat over chests/nodes
    • look down their nose at anyone who plays the game diffrently to them then gets offended by anyone who may take a dim view on their behaviour
    • demand carries through vet dungeons they can not be bothered to complete legitimately - as in learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries through trials they have no interest in learning their role for & demand armour at the end of it- again a refusal to learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries or worse pay in game gold or real life money to other people to play their account so they can complete ALL vet trials - because they 'need' the gear but refuse to learn the mechanics and (where appropriate) work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • throw temper tantrums in zone/guild chat when they want emperor and if that fails they pay either in game gold or real life money for someone to 'hand it to them on a plate - because they hate PVP and are only there for the achievements, and dont see why they should L2P or work as part of a team to play objectivley in a fun & enjoyable way


    admittedly my experience of achievement hunters has been heavily skewed because of the people i have had the misfortune to encounter on my platform/server (especially as most of them have also been sexist pigs)

    but as far as im concerned the last thing this game needs is more freebies to incentivise exploiting, account sharing and cheating achievement hunting

    Maybe it's because your on console? Pc is lighter...

    None of those apply to me or @shadzilla

    as i said my opinion of achievement hunters has been heavily skewed by the people i have had the misfortune of meting. i think part of the problem on xbox is any achievment that also awards 'gamer score' (such as emp & vMA ) are cheated and exploited so commonly people dont even bother to report it anymore!
  • Aliyavana
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Having 20k plus achievement points means that you have dipped into all the content zos has to offer. You can't really prove you have it and there is no real incentive to get achievements that have no reward tied to them but as a completionist I'll still get them anyway. It would be nice if zos added rewards that rewarded players that complete as much content that zos developers have worked hard on, whether pvp, pve, questing you must experience them all to get a high achievement point so reward those who experiance the game to the fullest with exclusive rewards. Mounts, skins, titles etc are ideas.

    Rewards are built into the system. Titles, costumes, skins, hats and dies. I may have missed something but that is at least the bulk of achievement reward areas.

    I know achievements award rewards, I am talking about rewarding players based on not one achievement but many achievements based on thier achievement points
  • Shadzilla
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    NO - because

    my experience of achievement hunters are people who:-
    • throw tantrums in guild chats over motives/recipies/praxis etc
    • throw tantrums in zone chat over chests/nodes
    • look down their nose at anyone who plays the game diffrently to them then gets offended by anyone who may take a dim view on their behaviour
    • demand carries through vet dungeons they can not be bothered to complete legitimately - as in learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries through trials they have no interest in learning their role for & demand armour at the end of it- again a refusal to learn the mechanics and work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • demand carries or worse pay in game gold or real life money to other people to play their account so they can complete ALL vet trials - because they 'need' the gear but refuse to learn the mechanics and (where appropriate) work as part of a team to complete the content in a fun & enjoyable way.
    • throw temper tantrums in zone/guild chat when they want emperor and if that fails they pay either in game gold or real life money for someone to 'hand it to them on a plate - because they hate PVP and are only there for the achievements, and dont see why they should L2P or work as part of a team to play objectivley in a fun & enjoyable way


    admittedly my experience of achievement hunters has been heavily skewed because of the people i have had the misfortune to encounter on my platform/server (especially as most of them have also been sexist pigs)

    but as far as im concerned the last thing this game needs is more freebies to incentivise exploiting, account sharing and cheating achievement hunting

    Your experience sounds pretty bad bud, looks like an L2getfriends issue to be honest. I would suggest looking at the facts. Achievements take a massive amount of time to get a lot of. You are suggesting someone who has a massive amount of time invested in the game on a single toon demands carries? I would assume the opposite. By the way you are talking I really hope you have rak and halls HM completed, along with former emp/GO.
  • TheRealPotoroo
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    I've been suggesting the "Over Achiever" title for a few years now.
    How about an Over Achiever polymorph:
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  • Diffused
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    I just want achievements account bound so I don't have to toon hop to buy different stuff.
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    Gl I had 96% of all pve achivs pre update housing. Once I realised they wanted to make us buy every single house for around 14m for a few "achievements" I bailed on playing the game to get all pve achievements.

    I suggest you get out of the completionist life if you are playing eso because they barely care about the player base let alone the completionist one.
  • Marabornwingrion
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    Yes please. I have 21k+ achievements on my main and I'd love to have some kind of small reward for all that time I put into collecting them.

    Title/Costume/Polymorph/Pet would be nice.
    Edited by Marabornwingrion on June 26, 2017 9:23AM
  • Marabornwingrion
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    Maybe something like:

    - 5000 achievement points - title
    - 10 000 achievement points - costume
    - 15 000 achievement points - polymorph
    - 20 000 achievement points - mount


    It would motivate players to keep playing the game if they can get nice rewards.
  • Cave_Canem
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    there is no real incentive to get achievements that have no reward tied to them but as a completionist I'll still get them anyway.


    If you enjoy gaining achievements regardless of reward you dont need more rewards you need more achievements to aim for.
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    Cave_Canem wrote: »
    aliyavana wrote: »
    there is no real incentive to get achievements that have no reward tied to them but as a completionist I'll still get them anyway.


    If you enjoy gaining achievements regardless of reward you dont need more rewards you need more achievements to aim for.

    MMOs are played for satisfaction, not fun. You put time in so you can enjoy the outcome, not the time you are spending.

    I used to not like achievements in video games, and i still kind of dont, but since they have lowered the time needed to do anything in modern mmos there should be some method for dedicated players to stand out. The good thing about achivement points is it at least shows you have done lots of different things
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Shadzilla wrote: »
    I have 26k acheiv points.

    You lil khajiit! I'm currently at around 23k points and vet trial achievements seem outta my reach since my char is stam

    Not an excuse, stam builds are doing very nice dps with heavy attack builds. Find a better guild.
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
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    Bringer wrote: »
    Cave_Canem wrote: »
    aliyavana wrote: »
    there is no real incentive to get achievements that have no reward tied to them but as a completionist I'll still get them anyway.


    If you enjoy gaining achievements regardless of reward you dont need more rewards you need more achievements to aim for.

    MMOs are played for satisfaction, not fun. You put time in so you can enjoy the outcome, not the time you are spending.

    I used to not like achievements in video games, and i still kind of dont, but since they have lowered the time needed to do anything in modern mmos there should be some method for dedicated players to stand out. The good thing about achivement points is it at least shows you have done lots of different things

    The problem there is the number of characters. If your main character has say 30K achievements, you have nothing else to do and start a new one, will you grind the achievements again? Especially the AvA and crafting ones?
    mDKs still need a lot of love!
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    I recently hit the 20k mark I was so happy
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    Astrid_V wrote: »
    Maybe something like:

    - 5000 achievement points - title
    - 10 000 achievement points - costume
    - 15 000 achievement points - polymorph
    - 20 000 achievement points - mount


    It would motivate players to keep playing the game if they can get nice rewards.

    Others are also keep playing but don't give crap about achievements. If all they should give those rewards back 3-monthly for people who keep subbing. Achievements mean nothing. But I do respect some peoples persistence. I tried fishing and then I had to quit the game for 5 months because it was so boring.
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    I agree with you. I was seriously disappointed when i realised it all meant nothing. I thought they were point so could use or something. They kept pinging up as i leveled. And all for nada.
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