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What is ACTUALLY wrong with the Group Finder?

Kurkikohtaus
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I'm wondering if anyone versed in Networking, Server-Client infrastructure or programming in general would care to speculate what is actually wrong with the group finder tool, on a technical level. Especially since the advent of the Ready-Check, a feature that at least to the casual observer introduced even more bugs into an already problematic system.

Why does the tool fail to assemble a group upon ready-check?
Why does the tool remove group members from the dungeon upon porting?
Why does a pre-assembled group encounter its own set of problems using the tool?
And although this is largely FIXED now, why DID the tool (in the past) fail to find a replacement when a group member left?

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  • josiahva
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    The biggest problem with it is the fact that people have the choice to decline at ALL after queuing. If you que...when the group is full they need to dispense with the ready check and port you to the instance regardless of what you are doing....just the same as when you leave a group, you are automatically ported out...regardless of what you are doing, even if you are in combat...THAT'S how it needs to work...don't queue until you are ready.
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  • psxfloh
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  • KochDerDamonen
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    Because the ZOS developers peek over their shoulders at the Bethsoft developer's programming notes, ensuring similar bug-riddenness for TES authenticity :^)
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  • Betsararie
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    It's a POS
  • Hearts_Wake
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    psxfloh wrote: »

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  • Kurkikohtaus
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    Since this thread was revived, let me detail what I am experiencing more often than not.

    I queue as DD, ready check pops, I immediately click ready. I see on the icons that 3 people are ready, but up comes the message that someone has declined the invite, and that I have been placed at the front of the queue. The ready check pops again, once or twice, same result, and then suddenly, no more ready checks. Even though I am theoretically "at the front of the queue", I never get another ready check after a few failed ones.

    So after 15 minutes of waiting at the front of the queue (apparently), I leave the queue, re-queue and try again.

    Can any networking specialist hazard a guess at what is happening?

    The Bad: just trash the ready check already.

    The Good: it now seems consistently possible to replace a departed group member during a dungeon in progress, this was a problem for a long time, thank yoU ZOS at least for this.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    It's been working perfectly fine for me ever since they fixed it a few weeks ago. I'm not even being sarcastic. What problems are people experiencing?
  • HEXENWOLF
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    It's been working perfectly fine for me ever since they fixed it a few weeks ago. I'm not even being sarcastic. What problems are people experiencing?

    Are you on PC? Because it's still broken to all hell on PS4.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    HEXENWOLF wrote: »
    It's been working perfectly fine for me ever since they fixed it a few weeks ago. I'm not even being sarcastic. What problems are people experiencing?

    Are you on PC? Because it's still broken to all hell on PS4.

    Yeah. I guess it's a platform thing then.
  • zaria
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    HEXENWOLF wrote: »
    It's been working perfectly fine for me ever since they fixed it a few weeks ago. I'm not even being sarcastic. What problems are people experiencing?

    Are you on PC? Because it's still broken to all hell on PS4.

    Yeah. I guess it's a platform thing then.
    Console lag behind pc updates because of verification of code

    And it behaves better on pc than it has done before.
    The put in front of queuee did not work as you was not queued anymore. Now it simply find next player in queue if first don't respond.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • CaptainBeerDude
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    Working for me, queued as DD.

    Xbox Master Race.
    Let the flame war commence :trollface:
  • grim_tactics
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    Working for me, queued as DD.

    Xbox Master Race.
    Let the flame war commence :trollface:

    Define your idea of "working"

    I get into everything just fine as well, after hitting ready about 20-30 times and then get thrown into a 4v2v2 Battlegrounds, but the actual dungeon queue for me on PS4 hasn't booted me at all since Morrowind.
  • sigsergv
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    They just take code from wrong stackoverflow section: from questions instead of answers.
  • CaptainBeerDude
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    Working for me, queued as DD.

    Xbox Master Race.
    Let the flame war commence :trollface:

    Define your idea of "working"

    I get into everything just fine as well, after hitting ready about 20-30 times and then get thrown into a 4v2v2 Battlegrounds, but the actual dungeon queue for me on PS4 hasn't booted me at all since Morrowind.

    It means that I queue, I get put into a group and we do a dungeon.
    I will admit, sometimes I hit ready 2 or 3 times and there is usually a couple of false starts where someone has declined the invite.
    I'm not saying y'all don't have issues, it's just that I don't get them. :)
  • Thogard
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    The issue with the battleground queue is how groups float to the top, but if one of their members doesn't respond to the ready check then it doesn't actually remove them from the queue. You can run into an issue if a group keeps missing their ready checks, especially if different members of the group are missing the ready check at different times. For example, if they're dueling while they wait...
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  • Lelldorano
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    The biggest problem for me is when you queue for a random dungeon with a group of 2 or 3 players, only the leader will get the rewards (experience and loot in the mail).

    It has been this way since the Homestead patch back in February and has killed group play for me and my friends. We just don't bother any more.
  • Kali_Despoine
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    The biggest problem for me is when you queue for a random dungeon with a group of 2 or 3 players, only the leader will get the rewards (experience and loot in the mail).

    It has been this way since the Homestead patch back in February and has killed group play for me and my friends. We just don't bother any more.

    so that's what it is. Always wondered why sometimes in party the rest will not receive these.


    The biggest problem for the queue is the 1min timer that sometimes you don't get till the 30 sec mark or never see at all.

    Heard the ding, what no ready check?
    checks notifications...
    damn just missed it
    Requeue

    Same with in battle
    was that a ding?
    where is the ready check?
    aha notifications...
    damn just missed it

    With the lag that being queue in GF causes sometimes you can be in your bank and not get out in time to ready check.
  • koralr33fer
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    Its been broken for a year....I'm on XBOX NA...first it was removing from area since february. Now its june and they did a patch on it but its still broken as hell and now there are new issues....game freezes while in queue and ready checks fail about 15 times before you can get into a dungeon. This is total failure on ZOS's part...
  • Tr4gicDe4th
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    I am on Xbox NA and I have never had a problem with the Group Finder. Every time a ready check pops up it instantly puts me in a group and I get teleported to the dungeon. I play as a DD so I am not sure why everyone else is having issues. Maybe your internet connection is bad or something?
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