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We can have Guild Stores AND Auction Houses
MidknightWolf
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An AH should be added to the game, but work differently than other MMO's. The AH should work as:
The player places the item up for bid but has no control over pricing. The player may only control how long he/she wants the item to be listed for (Ex 1-7 days). The starting price the item would be up for is defaulted to the vendor price of the item. Then players all around Tamriel can bid on it for the allowed time. At the end of the time, the highest bidder gets the item.
An AH that works like this would give the player two choices.
1. Place your item on the guild store (ex: Items that go for a lot of gold on average) where the player can specify the price they are asking for and players may buy it at that price.
2. Place your item on the AH (EX: Divine gear or gear that usually goes for 1-50k gold) where you don't have a say on the amount you get but potentially can get more than Guild Store prices, but also gives guild-less players an ability to sell items without a guild store, but also without the freedom to specify their prices!
Please Discuss.
The player places the item up for bid but has no control over pricing. The player may only control how long he/she wants the item to be listed for (Ex 1-7 days). The starting price the item would be up for is defaulted to the vendor price of the item. Then players all around Tamriel can bid on it for the allowed time. At the end of the time, the highest bidder gets the item.
An AH that works like this would give the player two choices.
1. Place your item on the guild store (ex: Items that go for a lot of gold on average) where the player can specify the price they are asking for and players may buy it at that price.
2. Place your item on the AH (EX: Divine gear or gear that usually goes for 1-50k gold) where you don't have a say on the amount you get but potentially can get more than Guild Store prices, but also gives guild-less players an ability to sell items without a guild store, but also without the freedom to specify their prices!
Please Discuss.
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Invincible✭✭✭✭✭With an auction house we wouldn't have to rely on unlicenses unsecure software though. That's just bad game design. Burn him4 -
crappyjazz1964✭✭✭I think setting up individual stalls with your character like they did in Voyage Century would work better than the current system in ESO or auction house systems. No fees involved, just your time and finding a good spot to set up a stall.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭crappyjazz1964 wrote: »I think setting up individual stalls with your character like they did in Voyage Century would work better than the current system in ESO or auction house systems. No fees involved, just your time and finding a good spot to set up a stall.
@crappyjazz1964
So players bid on individual stalls and setup shop on their own. That could work.
I figure bids would be required as there can only be a limited number of stalls due to game space available. Regardless, something need to determine who gets the best locations.
Otherwise we would see player shops across a wide swath of the map.0 -
crappyjazz1964✭✭✭No, you didn't bid on anything. You just stood in a place that looked busy and "open stall" or whatever the command was. There were at least two or three major "cities" in the map where people usually did this so it was known where to go to sell or buy stuff. It worked quite well.1
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reiverx✭✭✭✭✭The problem, imho, isn't the guild trade system but the fact that most of the locations are just plain bad. There are a few hotspots and then it's all downhill from there.
If I can't find the item I'm looking for in one of the hotspots, I don't bother. There's already enough load screens in the game.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭And wardens can have sharks and bears. But I don't see many wardens running around with sharks.
Just because it's a buyer's market IRL doesn't mean the game is going to change to reflect that.signing off0 -
faerigirl✭✭✭✭crappyjazz1964 wrote: »I think setting up individual stalls with your character like they did in Voyage Century would work better than the current system in ESO or auction house systems. No fees involved, just your time and finding a good spot to set up a stall.
Aion did this as well.0 -
Demycilian✭✭✭✭crappyjazz1964 wrote: »I think setting up individual stalls with your character like they did in Voyage Century would work better than the current system in ESO or auction house systems. No fees involved, just your time and finding a good spot to set up a stall.
Aion did this as well.
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✭There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.
Oh man. You just ruined their day by bringing in a dose of reality. This is a fantasy game after all.
We must discuss this topic daily becauss we resist adapting to different game systems.0 -
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✭I speak only for myself: I hate auctions and bidding (and specially being outbid). ESO's system is fine as it is.
I'm just happy I'm not in charge of bidding for a guild trader...PC-EU0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What we need is an intuitive search within the guild vendor menu so you don't have to scroll through pages of stuff to find the one item you want.
A central board that would tell you where a particular item is being sold but not tell you a price might be workable? That way you do not have to randomly search vendors hoping to find items but if you want the best price you are going to have to visit each vendor that has the item listed.
This would give out of the way vendors some exposure and maybe cause more people to visit.
Anything central that shows prices is open for all kinds of abuse.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Crafts_Many_Boxes✭✭✭✭✭Honestly I'd be fine with an auction house (or at least a unified in-game search function), regardless of what the devs think is best for us. I think the vast majority of us just want to be able to actually find an item without spending hours searching for it. And on the flip side, we want to be able to put our goods out there without having to be in one of the super-exclusive trading guilds that have the stalls with the most foot traffic.
Honestly the whole trade system in this game feels like it was developed by some fantasy novel writer who's never actually played an MMO before, assuming all gamers want to go on "adventures" to find a darned tempering alloy or obscure set piece. I have a 9 to 5 job man, I don't play games with my precious free time to RP as a merchant.1 -
kuro-dono✭✭✭✭what could work miracle> whatever you buy from trader, cant ever again be resold. that there could fix so many issues ppl and zenimax has with the trading.0
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I would love an AH or stall like most other games, i personally hate the spread out guild store, kiosk system, but after 3 years I dont think that will EVER happen0
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Number_51✭✭✭✭✭Not sure I really want to wait a week... two weeks... a month... only to find out I lost my bid on the sharpened Spinner inferno staff.0 -
Delgent✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.
Is this the same ZOS who said ESO would always require a sub to play? And the same ZOS that said there would be NO gamble boxes?
No does not mean NO to ZOS, it's more a solid maybe.To live for good is to die in the name of honor.
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✭✭✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.
Is this the same ZOS who said ESO would always require a sub to play? And the same ZOS that said there would be NO gamble boxes?
No does not mean NO to ZOS, it's more a solid maybe.
But this is something that would be a major overhaul to the game itself and is wanted by so very few people to not be worth the effort nor problems it would cause.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0 -
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Zolron✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.
Is this the same ZOS who said ESO would always require a sub to play? And the same ZOS that said there would be NO gamble boxes?
No does not mean NO to ZOS, it's more a solid maybe.
But this is something that would be a major overhaul to the game itself and is wanted by so very few people to not be worth the effort nor problems it would cause.
I wouldn't call 40-50% of active FORUM posters "very few people". I would make a guess that most people who play the game do not post on the forums . I'll say it again but in my opinion in order to get an accurate representation of peoples opinions on the issue they need to ask this question at login once.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.
Is this the same ZOS who said ESO would always require a sub to play? And the same ZOS that said there would be NO gamble boxes?
No does not mean NO to ZOS, it's more a solid maybe.
But this is something that would be a major overhaul to the game itself and is wanted by so very few people to not be worth the effort nor problems it would cause.
I wouldn't call 40-50% of active FORUM posters "very few people". I would make a guess that most people who play the game do not post on the forums . I'll say it again but in my opinion in order to get an accurate representation of peoples opinions on the issue they need to ask this question at login once.
First I highly doubt it is 40-50% of active forum users. Seems to me it is five or six people posting multiple threads each. The number of people against an auction house most always outnumbers the number who support it in each thread created. That aside even if it were 90-100% of "active FORUM posters" that would still be less than 1% of the total game population. Don't mistake a majority here as being anywhere near representative of the game playing views.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."1 -
Zolron✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.
Is this the same ZOS who said ESO would always require a sub to play? And the same ZOS that said there would be NO gamble boxes?
No does not mean NO to ZOS, it's more a solid maybe.
But this is something that would be a major overhaul to the game itself and is wanted by so very few people to not be worth the effort nor problems it would cause.
I wouldn't call 40-50% of active FORUM posters "very few people". I would make a guess that most people who play the game do not post on the forums . I'll say it again but in my opinion in order to get an accurate representation of peoples opinions on the issue they need to ask this question at login once.
First I highly doubt it is 40-50% of active forum users. Seems to me it is five or six people posting multiple threads each. The number of people against an auction house most always outnumbers the number who support it in each thread created. That aside even if it were 90-100% of "active FORUM posters" that would still be less than 1% of the total game population. Don't mistake a majority here as being anywhere near representative of the game playing views.
Didn't you just prove my point; your statement that an AH is wanted ' by very few people' is based on the viewpoints expressed in the forums of which you now state that it represents less then 1%. So it isnt accurate to say that an AH is wanted by few people, we don't really know
Edited by Zolron on June 22, 2017 12:28AM0 -
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✭✭✭Or atleast meet in middle and add marketers in each major zone in the main hubs of that zone to pool all guild info in that zone to them.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Vipstaakki wrote: »There will be NO auction houses. ZOS has decreed thus' on a livestream. Besides, do we really have to open this can of worms again? Majority doesn't want an auction house.
Is this the same ZOS who said ESO would always require a sub to play? And the same ZOS that said there would be NO gamble boxes?
No does not mean NO to ZOS, it's more a solid maybe.
But this is something that would be a major overhaul to the game itself and is wanted by so very few people to not be worth the effort nor problems it would cause.
I wouldn't call 40-50% of active FORUM posters "very few people". I would make a guess that most people who play the game do not post on the forums . I'll say it again but in my opinion in order to get an accurate representation of peoples opinions on the issue they need to ask this question at login once.
First I highly doubt it is 40-50% of active forum users. Seems to me it is five or six people posting multiple threads each. The number of people against an auction house most always outnumbers the number who support it in each thread created. That aside even if it were 90-100% of "active FORUM posters" that would still be less than 1% of the total game population. Don't mistake a majority here as being anywhere near representative of the game playing views.
Didn't you just prove my point; your statement that an AH is wanted ' by very few people' is based on the viewpoints expressed in the forums of which you now state that it represents less then 1%. So it isnt accurate to say that an AH is wanted by few people, we don't really know
Nope not at all considering human nature leads us to be more vocal when we have a complaint than when everything is going good I'd say the lack of people speaking up for an auction house shows just how little support the idea has. If people want something they usually ask for it. We have what... 10 maybe 15 people who have expressed wanting an auction house?
There are more people that say they want a change to the way the guild vendors work but that doesn't equate to them wanting an auction house.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."0
