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Why is Rapid Fire not considered a DoT by Cruel Flurry, but Rend is?

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Avran_Sylt
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I get that one is a channel, and one is a pure DoT, but both have in their tooltips: "dealing [x] damage over [y] seconds". Maybe for balancing reasons.

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  • Enslaved
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    I think that you are right, since it is channel spell. If not, that would be crazy strong ultimate, paired with maelstorm DW weapons.
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  • Liofa
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    Channels cannot be boosted by vMA weapons . Flurry itself counts as a DoT as well but cannot by boosted because it is channel .
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  • MakoFore
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    because you can get hit by the initial strike- but then block the subsequent arrows- its not one gradual damage the grows- but numerous hits- arrows as it were. Rend is one hit that DOT's. barrage is that - a barrage of single damage hits.

    it matters because DOTS can't be blocked after the initial strike - only cleansed- but multiple hits- can be blocked. .
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  • Avran_Sylt
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    Liofa wrote: »
    Channels cannot be boosted by vMA weapons . Flurry itself counts as a DoT as well but cannot by boosted because it is channel .

    Which is BS in my opinion. It's the only maelstrom enchantment that doesn't boost the base ability in some way.
  • Izaki
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    Just like Jabs can't be boosted by the vMA enchant.

    Channels and DoTs scale the same way with Thaum, but they aren't the same thing, they are 2 different categories of abilities. The tooltip on the vMA weapons clearly states that only DoTs get boosted by the enchant
    Edited by Izaki on June 21, 2017 7:20AM
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  • Stannum
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    And what about balista? Tecnically it's not channel
  • Avran_Sylt
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    MakoFore wrote: »
    because you can get hit by the initial strike- but then block the subsequent arrows- its not one gradual damage the grows- but numerous hits- arrows as it were. Rend is one hit that DOT's. barrage is that - a barrage of single damage hits.

    it matters because DOTS can't be blocked after the initial strike - only cleansed- but multiple hits- can be blocked. .

    ah, so then it'll likely empower the poison DoT of Toxic Barrage then.
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    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    Liofa wrote: »
    Channels cannot be boosted by vMA weapons . Flurry itself counts as a DoT as well but cannot by boosted because it is channel .

    Which is BS in my opinion. It's the only maelstrom enchantment that doesn't boost the base ability in some way.

    It´s not as in: 1h weapons.
    Lowslash buffs the next fully charged heavyattack not even a skill.
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  • xblackroxe
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    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    Liofa wrote: »
    Channels cannot be boosted by vMA weapons . Flurry itself counts as a DoT as well but cannot by boosted because it is channel .

    Which is BS in my opinion. It's the only maelstrom enchantment that doesn't boost the base ability in some way.

    How exactly does vma destro boost blockade?

    Isnt the bow the only thing that actually boosts the ability itself.
    Edited by xblackroxe on June 21, 2017 8:01AM
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    xblackroxe wrote: »
    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    Liofa wrote: »
    Channels cannot be boosted by vMA weapons . Flurry itself counts as a DoT as well but cannot by boosted because it is channel .

    Which is BS in my opinion. It's the only maelstrom enchantment that doesn't boost the base ability in some way.

    How exactly does vma destro boost blockade?

    Isnt the bow the only thing that actually boosts the ability itself.

    True, but those light attacks don't cost you stamina to use.

    Resto gives bonus mag on crit ticks (no additional resource cost)
    2H gives bonus bleed damage (no additional resource cost)
    1H gives extra weapon damage and empowers your heavy attack (no additional resource cost)
    Bow empowers the base ability (no additional resource cost)
    Destro gives light attacks bonus damage (no additional resource cost)
    DW gives other DoT abilities bonus weapon damage (has additional resource cost)

    So I chose my words poorly. I should have said "Is the only one whose enchantment requires additional resources to be used to make use of"
  • derpmander
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    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    xblackroxe wrote: »
    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    Liofa wrote: »
    Channels cannot be boosted by vMA weapons . Flurry itself counts as a DoT as well but cannot by boosted because it is channel .

    Which is BS in my opinion. It's the only maelstrom enchantment that doesn't boost the base ability in some way.

    How exactly does vma destro boost blockade?

    Isnt the bow the only thing that actually boosts the ability itself.

    True, but those light attacks don't cost you stamina to use.

    Resto gives bonus mag on crit ticks (no additional resource cost)
    2H gives bonus bleed damage (no additional resource cost)
    1H gives extra weapon damage and empowers your heavy attack (no additional resource cost)
    Bow empowers the base ability (no additional resource cost)
    Destro gives light attacks bonus damage (no additional resource cost)
    DW gives other DoT abilities bonus weapon damage (has additional resource cost)

    So I chose my words poorly. I should have said "Is the only one whose enchantment requires additional resources to be used to make use of"

    I mean, technically it doesn't make your other DoTs cost extra. You're gonna use those extra dots anyway. The vMA weapons just add extra damage to whatever you were doing anyway.
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