Things your characters should share...

murdomac101 · June 2017

Hey

This has probably been discussed before, but since I've not seen any posts on it I thought I'd start one.

I think more stuff/stats should be shared between characters.

Background:

I've had imperial edition since launch, I pay for ESO+, I bought Morrowind, but I am a casual player - I have a job, a wife, a kid, so I only manage a few hours per week.

I levelled my main (DK) a long time ago with all the skill lines, skill points, etc etc. Of course I want to try new characters but I'm focussed on end-game having played all the content before over many many hours.

Ok so fine, I need to level a new character, but there are certain things that are so so darn annoying having to level when I've done it before and am only doing it to play end game pve and pvp. So I think these should be shared between characters, with all characters having the stats of the character with the highest. These include -

Shared stats/items:

Inventory space
Mount stats
Skill points
Skill lines (weapon/class/guild)
Titles

What do you all think? I'm sure we won't agree on everything but I think the game really punishes you once you complete it. It want to have a few different characters.

Limiting some of the above (mounts/inventory) is just an unfair money spinner for the crown store.

drakhan2002_ESO · June 2017

No...just no. Sorry for your inability or willingness to play the game - you shouldn't have gotten a job, married, or a kid.

Shanjijri · June 2017

I imagine a level one character with Boethiah's Scythe or Flawless Conqueror titles...

Syntse · June 2017

Inventory, No there is already shared bank space
Mount stats, Yes
Skill points, no and yes... skyshards should be account wide
Skill lines no with exception of lore books discovered for mage guild
Titles come from achievements and yes achievements should be account wide

murdomac101 · June 2017

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

No...just no. Sorry for you inability or willingness to play the game - you shouldn't have gotten a job, married, or kid.

Why should inventory and mount stats not be shared among characters. Increasing them isn't a fun, or interesting part of the game. It's a boring chore. What's the point in having to do it all again? It's got nothing to do with learning learning your character, it doesn't contribute anything to the pve or pvp environment - and clearly it is used to make money through crown store sales...that says it all

Skill points - yes fine, maybe asking for too much.

murdomac101 · June 2017

Griffe wrote: »

I imagine a level one character with Boethiah's Scythe or Flawless Conqueror titles...

Lol. Ok that would be funny and maybe wrong

Betsararie · June 2017

lol'd so hard at this.

What a mentality man. I think the part where you made sure to throw in that you're a casual was the icing on the cake.

The game is far too casual as it is.

agegarton · June 2017

I don't see the need - or the point - in sharing skill points. That said, I would like to see a "straight to level 50" option if you've already levelled a character (perhaps limited to a faction).

More pressing, I really want to see Alliance Points merged and available across my account. I have bits and pieces on some alts that are just worthless. They are on builds that I don't tend to PVP with much. Given that TVs and gold are shared account wide, I really don't see any argument for keeping APs separated by character, especially as they are now used as a real currency and given that Alliance ranks and achievements are already per-character.

ChildOfLight · June 2017

JUST NO please, let actually some decisions matter in this game.

The last thing I am willing to see are bunches of lv3 characters running with the Stormproof title around Stonefalls.

If I were you, I would be more upset over the fact your long ago created character is cut-off 1 skill point, not being able to access the new Morrowind tutorial.

Caligamy_ESO · June 2017

Titles... maybe? At least most of them, stuff like VMA titles I don't know how I would feel about that. Stuff I would definitely like to see shared among characters on the account though..

Gold - really get tired of running back and forth to the bank just to give a character funds to purchase something.

Writ Vouchers - Same as above, having to bounce master writ slips through the bank just so I can attempt to pool these is very irritating. They could at least allow it to be deposited as a currency like gold, or tel var stones can.

Crafting styles - Related to the above, master writs are nearly impossible to get it seems like and the fact that they're dependent on whole styles known doesn't help. Often times when I look at my character list I come to realize I don't even play half of them or really want them there, their sole reason for existing these days is just to do more writs so I can try to get these vouchers.

My UI, add-on, display, social, gameplay settings, etc..

Why these aren't shared is just weird, I can't think of any logical reason for it.

drakhan2002_ESO · June 2017

murdomac101 wrote: »

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

No...just no. Sorry for you inability or willingness to play the game - you shouldn't have gotten a job, married, or kid.

Why should inventory and mount stats not be shared among characters. Increasing them isn't a fun, or interesting part of the game. It's a boring chore. What's the point in having to do it all again? It's got nothing to do with learning learning your character, it doesn't contribute anything to the pve or pvp environment - and clearly it is used to make money through crown store sales...that says it all

Skill points - yes fine, maybe asking for too much.

I am more inclined to agree with that, but having 15 level 50 characters across 2 accounts now that have made that climb to get the horse trained and inventory maxxed (yes, some through the crown store), I feel this pain should be suffered by those who come after me.

If this were enacted, I would fully expect a refund in gold spent, crowns spent, and compensation for my time. Do you think I'd get *any* of that? No...your idea is a good one, just not a realistic one.

Kendaric · June 2017

murdomac101 wrote: »

Hey

Shared stats/items:

Inventory space
Mount stats
Skill points
Skill lines (weapon/class/guild)
Titles

What do you all think? I'm sure we won't agree on everything but I think the game really punishes you once you complete it. It want to have a few different characters.

Limiting some of the above (mounts/inventory) is just an unfair money spinner for the crown store.

No. Just no. And just to make it clear: Hell, no.

There's enough accountwide stuff already, we don't need anything else made accountwide.

thechangenow · June 2017

i just want to be able to upgrade mount of all character from one character instead of relogging 7 times

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

- Mage's guild
- Fighter's guild
- Undaunted
- Skyshards
- Mount training

Fighter's guild is easy to grind, but I left it up there for the sake of consistancy. The rest are absolutely dreadful to grind. And they're required on every new character.

Arundo · June 2017

Griffe wrote: »

I imagine a level one character with Boethiah's Scythe or Flawless Conqueror titles...

So ? I believe the player behind the characters did the work not the character him/herself, that would just be very strange !

drakhan2002_ESO · June 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

- Mage's guild
- Fighter's guild
- Undaunted
- Skyshards
- Mount training

Fighter's guild is easy to grind, but I left it up there for the sake of consistancy. The rest are absolutely dreadful to grind. And they're required on every new character.

None of it is difficult if you play every day. You make it sound like everyone should get a participation trophy...

timb16_ESO85 · June 2017

Syntse wrote: »

Titles come from achievements and yes achievements should be account wide

With regards to the achievements, I would rather see them both account wide and per character in different tabs. This allows your character to feel unique, while still allowing achievement hunters (like myself) to collect everything spread over multiple characters. Might even add a have each race/class at lvl 50 achievements. If titles should be based on account or character, i'm not sure.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2017

Mount, maybe. There was merit to the old system where you could buy multiple mounts and train them differently, capping at 60 points in total.
Lorebooks, absolutely - you collect them after all, so why could you not place them on a shelf for your alt to read? (I know, they are magically consumed in the process.)
Skyshards, probably. This one is something of a pain. Going to say the exception to that should be Cyrodiil. It's a fun kind of pain getting the ones behind the gates.
Skill lines, no. Not like they're hard to level, and you'd already have the shards from above.
Titles, torn on this one. If anything, the less dire ones, such as Holiday event titles, but not the completion ones like Alliance Ranks, Undaunted, specific clears.
Crafting styles, yes. Traits, see below.

What might be nice is when starting a new character, getting a percentage of these, based on an average of all your characters. This would give people who've already done it a half dozen times a head start, but not a full 'buy a max level character' head start. It's not like they don't know how to do it at that point.

The exception to the above? I think if you've already played through the class once (L50, skill lines, etc), you should be able to template those aspects only to a new character. This would give a boost, but still require you (in theory) to have half a clue about the class you're wanting to play again.

EDIT: Regarding titles and achieves, I thin a way to link that you have done these things, and perhaps showing which characters would be beneficial, but not full on handing over the title to the new guy. This would let people know that just because you haven't done it on this character yet doesn't mean you are unaware of what it takes.

ChildOfLight · June 2017

Arundo wrote: »

Griffe wrote: »

I imagine a level one character with Boethiah's Scythe or Flawless Conqueror titles...

So ? I believe the player behind the characters did the work not the character him/herself, that would just be very strange !

So why not put a large poster over your head with "Flawless Conqueror" written and run around your Town, in real life?

After all, it's the player, not the character, that achieve the title.

murdomac101 · June 2017

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

murdomac101 wrote: »

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

No...just no. Sorry for you inability or willingness to play the game - you shouldn't have gotten a job, married, or kid.

Why should inventory and mount stats not be shared among characters. Increasing them isn't a fun, or interesting part of the game. It's a boring chore. What's the point in having to do it all again? It's got nothing to do with learning learning your character, it doesn't contribute anything to the pve or pvp environment - and clearly it is used to make money through crown store sales...that says it all

Skill points - yes fine, maybe asking for too much.

I am more inclined to agree with that, but having 15 level 50 characters across 2 accounts now that have made that climb to get the horse trained and inventory maxxed (yes, some through the crown store), I feel this pain should be suffered by those who come after me.

If this were enacted, I would fully expect a refund in gold spent, crowns spent, and compensation for my time. Do you think I'd get *any* of that? No...your idea is a good one, just not a realistic one.

A fair point...but sometimes we just have to accept a past loss if the innovation means better for all in the future! IMO

VampiricByNature · June 2017

My lorebook hunting.

theamazingx · June 2017

murdomac101 wrote: »

Hey

This has probably been discussed before, but since I've not seen any posts on it I thought I'd start one.

I think more stuff/stats should be shared between characters.

Background:

I've had imperial edition since launch, I pay for ESO+, I bought Morrowind, but I am a casual player - I have a job, a wife, a kid, so I only manage a few hours per week.

I levelled my main (DK) a long time ago with all the skill lines, skill points, etc etc. Of course I want to try new characters but I'm focussed on end-game having played all the content before over many many hours.

Ok so fine, I need to level a new character, but there are certain things that are so so darn annoying having to level when I've done it before and am only doing it to play end game pve and pvp. So I think these should be shared between characters, with all characters having the stats of the character with the highest. These include -

Shared stats/items:

Inventory space
Mount stats
Skill points
Skill lines (weapon/class/guild)
Titles

What do you all think? I'm sure we won't agree on everything but I think the game really punishes you once you complete it. It want to have a few different characters.

Limiting some of the above (mounts/inventory) is just an unfair money spinner for the crown store.

Yes to mount stats, no to everything else.

If you just mean the inventory space upgrades, I wouldn't complain, but ZoS would lose money at no benefit so not likely.

Chilly-McFreeze · June 2017

The only change that should be made regarding to account wide access is the ability to deposit vouchers and AP to my bank.

As for the achievements like flawless conquerer - I'm good on my Sorc, but I suck on a DK - so would it feel right to drop that fancy MA title on my dk?

The mount thing probably wont change again. It's a way to "force" you to log in on your chars each day. Guess it will pretty up some statistics. Also people would dislike to see their crown store riding lession (bought with real life money) lose worth.

The other grinds - lorebooks, shards, skill lines, level - is for the same reason, to make sure you actually play the game. So it wont happen and I don't feel the need for a change either.

TheValar85 · June 2017

murdomac101 wrote: »

Hey

This has probably been discussed before, but since I've not seen any posts on it I thought I'd start one.

I think more stuff/stats should be shared between characters.

Background:

I've had imperial edition since launch, I pay for ESO+, I bought Morrowind, but I am a casual player - I have a job, a wife, a kid, so I only manage a few hours per week.

I levelled my main (DK) a long time ago with all the skill lines, skill points, etc etc. Of course I want to try new characters but I'm focussed on end-game having played all the content before over many many hours.

Ok so fine, I need to level a new character, but there are certain things that are so so darn annoying having to level when I've done it before and am only doing it to play end game pve and pvp. So I think these should be shared between characters, with all characters having the stats of the character with the highest. These include -

Shared stats/items:

Inventory space
Mount stats
Skill points
Skill lines (weapon/class/guild)
Titles

What do you all think? I'm sure we won't agree on everything but I think the game really punishes you once you complete it. It want to have a few different characters.

Limiting some of the above (mounts/inventory) is just an unfair money spinner for the crown store.

That would be cool to be honest to have shared mount stats, skill points, titles, and YES SKYSHARDS PLS. I dont want to grind all over my a... over and over again when i leveling up another toon, yeah its an mmorpg but it consumes way too much time just to collect every skyshards in teh game including skillpoint related quests. Omg and the guilds ehh it pains me even think of those, i mean mostly the Undantued, its like a constant never ending regular pregnancy sickness while you tri to level up those for your alts. even thinking of that makes me sick.

DjMuscleboy02 · June 2017

The only thing I think should be shared is mount speed. It already takes 180 days for just one character to level completely. There's really no reason for there to not be shared mount speed.

faerigirl · June 2017

I would like mount stats account bound.

I would probably PvP more on my low toons if I could keep up, but no, there you are trailing way behind like low hanging fruit to be plucked >.<

Sallington · June 2017

Stuff that I'd like shared between toons:

MOTIFS!!!!
Achievements (but for the title, it needs to be done on that toon as well)
Mount training

Skill points and skyshards don't need to be shared.
Inventories are fine how it is
Skill lines don't need to be shared

Dracindo · June 2017

I think you should be happy that you only need to level a new character to CP 160 and other characters only to level 50. Same for character interaction: One toon can craft set armor for every other toon. No need to spend too many skill points in crafting on all other toons.

Get some addons for skyshard and lorebook locations. That'll save you a lot of time trying to remember where they all were with every new account.

You're going to have to level up to level 50 anyway, class/weapon skills will easily level along the way.

Qbiken · June 2017

Mount stats whould be really nice.....9 months to max out Everything on a horse?? Like for real? (unles you want to spend Crowns on riding lessons ofc)

Shanjijri · June 2017

Arundo wrote: »

Griffe wrote: »

I imagine a level one character with Boethiah's Scythe or Flawless Conqueror titles...

So ? I believe the player behind the characters did the work not the character him/herself, that would just be very strange !

I have a kitty NB healer. I'm proud of my Boethiah's Scythe title with him -- I acquired it with him, not with my Templar healer, or my DK tank. You see the difference? It means I played enough good with him to have the title. That, it's precious for me because some people need proofs from me to be convinced I can do the job, even with a stamina race, even with another class than Templar...

Merlin13KAGL · June 2017

Qbiken wrote: »

Mount stats whould be really nice.....9 months to max out Everything on a horse?? Like for real? (unles you want to spend Crowns on riding lessons ofc)

@Qbiken if by 9, you mean 6, yes.

Griffe wrote: »

Arundo wrote: »

Griffe wrote: »

I imagine a level one character with Boethiah's Scythe or Flawless Conqueror titles...

So ? I believe the player behind the characters did the work not the character him/herself, that would just be very strange !

I have a kitty NB healer. I'm proud of my Boethiah's Scythe title with him -- I acquired it with him, not with my Templar healer, or my DK tank. You see the difference? It means I played enough good with him to have the title. That, it's precious for me because some people need proofs from me to be convinced I can do the job, even with a stamina race, even with another class than Templar...

@Griffe perfectly reasonable, which is why those titles should not be transferrable, but perhaps an account wide option to show that you have achieved it on that one character.

This benefit situations where you bring a 'n00b' character into an instance and people offer up several hints or concerns. "Guys, I've probably been through this content more times than all of you combined. We'll be a'ight."

Titles involving things like the holiday event, novelty titles, if you will, like delivering X number loaves of bread during Tamriel's version of Ramadan, I would not take issue with. (Though I equally don't see the point, as they are novelty titles.)