Mephisto939 wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

I can't believe this thread is still going on. BoL is not breaking PVP by any stretch. I can think of a dozen things ZOS should prioritize over this crap.

You're joking right? You see no problem with me standing behind objects, healing friendlies, while nowhere near their line of sight and completely out of damage.

You obviously don't play as a templar.

Yes. That's it. I'm out to nerf your Templar. Not balance my class.

It's only my first character, my main, a former emperor, one of the first flawless conquerors on Xbox, held top 20 Maelstrom runs at multiple periods, held #1 trials scores as a healer on nearly ever trial at multiple periods since vr14 days.

But please. Tell me about your extensive experience with the class.

With the resource changes and the constant nerfs to BoL it's not really a spammable skill, and rarely if ever do you see templars hiding behind a wall casting BoL. This is a minor defect compared to the .mountain of crap going on in cyrodil.

Anyways, its off topic. It doesn't even need more discussion @ZOS_GinaBruno can you just pass the video on to the dev team? Thank you!

Mephisto939 wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

BigES wrote: »

Mephisto939 wrote: »

I can't believe this thread is still going on. BoL is not breaking PVP by any stretch. I can think of a dozen things ZOS should prioritize over this crap.

You're joking right? You see no problem with me standing behind objects, healing friendlies, while nowhere near their line of sight and completely out of damage.

You obviously don't play as a templar.

Yes. That's it. I'm out to nerf your Templar. Not balance my class.

It's only my first character, my main, a former emperor, one of the first flawless conquerors on Xbox, held top 20 Maelstrom runs at multiple periods, held #1 trials scores as a healer on nearly ever trial at multiple periods since vr14 days.

But please. Tell me about your extensive experience with the class.

Just realized you were the guy who started the thread, so yeah I apologize for the stupid comment.

No worries man. Hug it out.

TomLukman wrote: »

I'm not convinced BOL goes through walls since from time to time I get a random Chuck Norris over extender in dungeons who runs behind a corner and doesn't get any healing.

However, a scenario I could think of when BOL and other skills will go through walls is laggy Cyrodill, after someone clicks to enter a gate/door while the healer casts at the same time. That person will get, what appears to be, healed through wall. In this exact way you can, as a warden use the gap closer on an ally just entering a keep and will be ported through the wall (or worse, as a DK using chain gap closer get ported into an enemy keep). These through the wall bugs are often an annoyance in Cyrodill.

Or... Idk, watch the video in the initial post taken at a random wayshrine in Vvardenfell?

timidobserver wrote: »

I think it depends on the wall. I've seen it not go through walls and I've seen it go through walls. Maybe some walls/structures are coded differently?

I specifically went to PvE to test it because I already tested it in PvP in Imperial City, as stated in the first post.

I tested multiple objects and structures in Imperial City.

MrBetadine wrote: »

In pve enemies shoot fireballs and arrows through walls. I dont see a problem with BoL healing through walls.

Good point.

New thread. Let Soul Assault go through walls.

Sigh.

Today I healed an ally in the sewers through a death he should have taken. I was fully proc'd and I spammed BoL on him through a wall.

Fix this crap please.

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Never seen so many healers in one thread.

It is really that hard to use your brain when spamming breath and look in someones general direction?

The healing through walls thing was a stupid design in the first place, hope they fix the bug soon if it is back.

Which person needs the heal on your screen versus the group bar?

Are you assuming all three or eleven others are directly in front of you in a nice little cone?

If you identify as a healer, and your sole goal in PVP is to heal your group, and you wind up in front of your group with the DDs behind you, either you screwed up or your DDs screwed up. If the enemy team takes advantage of that, then you should die. Positioning matters. I get that its a new concept for a lot (not all) of templars, but its a fundamental part of combat strategy that every other class has to obey. If I can pressure DDs to the point they are falling back and wind up behind you, I should be rewarded for that. Its the point of the change. Likewise if someone dies because they broke line of sight for your heals or ran behind you, then that's on them and they deserve the death. Not that I play with someone spamming healing springs like some folks do, but if I did I would deserve to die if I wasn't consistently fighting inside it. Same principle.

The days of the giant zerg balls of templars spamming BoL and no other skills really needs to come to and end. And maybe that end is almost here. If you are paying attention to what some folks are doing with Magicka Warden, you'll see some spectacularly effective healers without the need for smart omni-directional healing.

Sorry for the tangent. The point of the post is still the fact that BoL is fundamentally broken based on what the patch notes and skill description say. Its not supposed to heal through walls. Its supposed to be a forward facing directional cone. It is currently not behaving within the confines of either.

Edit - What would be cool maybe is if you don't hit a second person, maybe you should get refunded 25% of the skills cost. May be broken in duels, but if your a DD templar like BigES, it would reward that kind of play style. Just seems like an interesting compromise.