The nerf that needs to happen.

Bravk · June 2017

So Morrowind is here and with it a lot of changes, some good some OK some terrible bad. One of the bad ones that, I particularly dislike is the new changes made to Menders, Honor guards and other NPC's located at Cyrodill keeps and resources.

The fact that now Menders and Honor guards alike can bubble players and negate skills is very tiresome and unpleasant, add to that, new skills for both in which you get chained from afar and then bubbled or negated. Was this necessary ZOS? Up to Morrowind it was kind of difficult (not impossible) for any solo player to take a level 5 resource now is definitely impossible. I have seen players and also experienced myself been bubbled and negated at the same time, over and over by this NPC's.

Long gone now seem the days you could sneak behind enemy lines and start taking resources to help your alliance gain some ground, is such a drag now that it actually lags very bad. But the question of lag deserves a whole new post, because it is also a nerf that has to happen for this game to become playable and sustainable.

Make this change a revert or nerf down Honor guards that can heal (really they are not menders) or Menders that can use chain skills (really they are not tanks), space out the negate rate and bubble rate or do out with it all together for either a mender or a honor guard.

Perhaps then we will have a chance to enjoy more PVP in Cyro without this Superhuman NPC's, uber buffed.

AzraelKrieg · June 2017

I believe there is actually an issue with the guard NPCs in Cyrodiil be stronger than they should be and it is something they working on to fix. It wasn't intentional that they became so strong

RouDeR · June 2017

I like them that way , but i still solo the resources with my magika and stamina toons .

Bravk · June 2017

When a civilian in a resource uses skills guards use and chain, spike out their back and so on, you begin to think who programmed this? What were they thinking?

I hope is a programming mistake. Should be addressed soon if so.

brandonv516 · June 2017

Non CP campaigns are very difficult to solo resources. I notice cloak is very sensitive around the Honor Guards too.

scipionumatia · June 2017

Only play stamina in pvp (until magden is leveled up) so I haven't really noticed. I've got no problem taking resources as stam dk

zyk · June 2017

Brian Wheeler confirmed the Cyrodiil NPCs are broken and will eventually be fixed:

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Did a drive by of Aleswell farm level 5 just now and got the workers firing negate, fire balls, etc. It's not intended. Digging into this more.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

I'm sorry we didn't catch this sooner, and we have a fix ready that our engineers need to verify doesn't cause other issues.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4213865/#Comment_4213865
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4216220/#Comment_4216220

StormWylf · June 2017

zyk wrote: »

Brian Wheeler confirmed the Cyrodiil NPCs are broken and will eventually be fixed:

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Did a drive by of Aleswell farm level 5 just now and got the workers firing negate, fire balls, etc. It's not intended. Digging into this more.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

I'm sorry we didn't catch this sooner, and we have a fix ready that our engineers need to verify doesn't cause other issues.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4213865/#Comment_4213865
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4216220/#Comment_4216220

Appears to be a good response.

disintegr8 · June 2017

I don't have an issue with them being challenging when you are solo - do what I have always done and knock the NPC's off one at a time instead of just charging in there. I did take a couple solo last week doing this but I also presume they were not high level resources.

What I have an issue with is being in a permanent bubble while workers pull me around with chains and every NPC takes it in turns to go from 10% health to 100% at the drop of a hat. I've only played in the level 1-49 non-cp campaign since Morrowind and have even been in groups of 3 and 4 that are being wiped out at resources.

Hopefully they'll fix it soon.

IZZEFlameLash · June 2017

Soon... 2 years later....

Chrlynsch · June 2017

It's the nerf eso deserves... Not the one it needs right now

Doctordarkspawn · June 2017

REVENGE OF THE MOBS.

Morgul667 · June 2017

Hope it will be fixed with next update (im probably dreaming but still)

IcyDeadPeople · June 2017

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

REVENGE OF THE MOBS.

Just wait until they get angry and leave the farm to start assaulting keeps

Bravk · June 2017

disintegr8 wrote: »

I don't have an issue with them being challenging when you are solo - do what I have always done and knock the NPC's off one at a time instead of just charging in there. I did take a couple solo last week doing this but I also presume they were not high level resources.

What I have an issue with is being in a permanent bubble while workers pull me around with chains and every NPC takes it in turns to go from 10% health to 100% at the drop of a hat. I've only played in the level 1-49 non-cp campaign since Morrowind and have even been in groups of 3 and 4 that are being wiped out at resources.

Hopefully they'll fix it soon.

The biggest problem is that NPC's regain resource power faster than players do, but we have to collect 500 ulti points to do a decent ultimate damage on this Non Player Controlled.

I do play CP on both my stam and mag toons, and have the same problem on either.

Your post just confirmed to me this is not a issue of CP campaigns only, but a poorly programed instace that should have been found at trial time and not after a release. The words 'half cooked' and 'in a hurry' come to mind.