IF they believe they made a mistake, they will subtly, and secretly, make adjustments over time to get back to where they were. However, I wouldn't expect it to be in the natch potes or, if they are, these adjustments will show up cloaked as other adjustments.

What difference does it make to you? The game is incredibly annoying to play without a sub according to you. You were leaving after ZOS "forced" you to buy a character slot to make a warden. ZOS is driving new player away because the quests aren't organized. Then you claimed you deleted the game back in April because of the "horrible direction the game was going, also the excessive obvious greed over actually making the game better."

If the game is such a pos that offends your every sensibility, all the changes/everything is nerfed to ruin the whole universe, and the devs/ZOS are greedy money grubbing sellouts, why are you still here complaining, instead of leaving to find a game you actually enjoy?

They would never admit any of their bright ideas were mistakes.

Darlgon wrote: »

Well. they DO admit to mistakes...

If THIS is a mistake.. I doubt it.

Where can I see them admitting to their mistakes?

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

What difference does it make to you? The game is incredibly annoying to play without a sub according to you. You were leaving after ZOS "forced" you to buy a character slot to make a warden. ZOS is driving new player away because the quests aren't organized. Then you claimed you deleted the game back in April because of the "horrible direction the game was going, also the excessive obvious greed over actually making the game better."

If the game is such a pos that offends your every sensibility, all the changes/everything is nerfed to ruin the whole universe, and the devs/ZOS are greedy money grubbing sellouts, why are you still here complaining, instead of leaving to find a game you actually enjoy?

Wow are you stalking me or something? do i need to be worried?

You've brought up some of my old posts the even i forgot about like the quest organization one.

Anyways in response to your constant attacks to my posts, I don't hate the game its actuall my favorite mmo, but ZOS keeps pushing my limit to the point where i quit. I decided to come back to see if I actually misjudged them, but turns out I didn't.

I would really like this game to be at its max potential, but ZOS are are making it worse over time.

It's pretty easy to click on someone's name and see their topic history.

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

PVE specially was completely devastated by the sustain nerf and became incredibly annoying and boring.

So having unlimited resources while doing insane DPS wasn't boring?

Mady wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

PVE specially was completely devastated by the sustain nerf and became incredibly annoying and boring.

So having unlimited resources while doing insane DPS wasn't boring?

The problem is that having unlimited resources pushes the role of DPS to a very fast paced role with barely any downtime in play. Having bad sustain leads to slower paced gameplay overall, which is inherently more boring.

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

When they killed sustain? So far I haven't seen one one person who went " Oh the nerf to sustain made the game so much more balanced and more more fun". PVE specially was completely devastated by the sustain nerf and became incredibly annoying and boring.

What do you think, will they admit the made a mistake and revert the sustain changes or are they so stubborn to admit they made a mistake and try to adjust the game over the sustain nerfs and fail miserably?

The changes were made so that everyone running 3 full damage sets couldn't anymore it's simply to fix people running the damage sets. If you want to cry even further about it, it's a game I hated the changes that made gear a pain in the @$$ to get but I didn't come to the forums to complain. If you have a legitimate statement to show off then fine but you have to actually build towards rescource management or you get creamed in this game end of story. The only problem with this game rn is bgs have no ranking system the rng needs to be changed up and ques need to be fixed and they need to do something with proc sets that's about it besides releasing content that works when you pay 40$ to buy it

Im fine with the changes to sustain, next is fixing proc sets which can ignore sustain

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

What difference does it make to you? The game is incredibly annoying to play without a sub according to you. You were leaving after ZOS "forced" you to buy a character slot to make a warden. ZOS is driving new player away because the quests aren't organized. Then you claimed you deleted the game back in April because of the "horrible direction the game was going, also the excessive obvious greed over actually making the game better."

If the game is such a pos that offends your every sensibility, all the changes/everything is nerfed to ruin the whole universe, and the devs/ZOS are greedy money grubbing sellouts, why are you still here complaining, instead of leaving to find a game you actually enjoy?

Wow are you stalking me or something? do i need to be worried?

You've brought up some of my old posts the even i forgot about like the quest organization one.

Anyways in response to your constant attacks to my posts, I don't hate the game its actuall my favorite mmo, but ZOS keeps pushing my limit to the point where i quit. I decided to come back to see if I actually misjudged them, but turns out I didn't.

I would really like this game to be at its max potential, but ZOS are are making it worse over time.

Seems like he is just calling you out on what you have said by drawing on your credibility.

DEATHquidox wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

When they killed sustain? So far I haven't seen one one person who went " Oh the nerf to sustain made the game so much more balanced and more more fun". PVE specially was completely devastated by the sustain nerf and became incredibly annoying and boring.

What do you think, will they admit the made a mistake and revert the sustain changes or are they so stubborn to admit they made a mistake and try to adjust the game over the sustain nerfs and fail miserably?

The changes were made so that everyone running 3 full damage sets couldn't anymore it's simply to fix people running the damage sets. If you want to cry even further about it, it's a game I hated the changes that made gear a pain in the @$$ to get but I didn't come to the forums to complain. If you have a legitimate statement to show off then fine but you have to actually build towards rescource management or you get creamed in this game end of story. The only problem with this game rn is bgs have no ranking system the rng needs to be changed up and ques need to be fixed and they need to do something with proc sets that's about it besides releasing content that works when you pay 40$ to buy it

The only problem with that argument is that basically no one in the end game pve community stopped running all damage sets and all spell/weapon damage glyphs. Literally you just throw in a couple more heavy attacks than before Morrowind and you are basically good to go. Maybe a couple are using witch mothers's brew.

It was nearly impossible to sustain well last patch without good healer support. This patch, healer support almost doesn't matter since all of their group sustain tools took enormous nerfs. The resource returns from healer orbs for instance is gone in 1-3 skill casts... aka 1-3 seconds.

Why in the world would anyone love or even like one of the iconic ways that games use to balance and prevent constant spamming of the best ability you can use?

Limited resources, cool-downs, or even (back in the day) compulsory rest and camp between fights are not there to be liked. They're there to force you to make choices instead of spamming the AOE Storm of I Win Awesomeness over and over again.

Someone who thinks that those parts of balancing should be liked, especially these days when down-time between fights is so tiny compared to 10 or 20 years ago must be new to gaming.